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Hi please can you try and find Charles and alice mander in the 1851c-1861c Charles b1828 Shoreditch alice cowland b1831 spitafields married 7/4/1851 Hoxton Charles father Charles Thomas mander alice father Samuel cowland ive tried quite a few of variations on surname without anyluck thanks

1861
Charles Mander Head Married Male 32 1829 Cabinet Maker Shoreditch, Middlesex, England
Alice Mander Wife Married Female 30 1831 - Spitalfields, Middlesex, England
Charles Mander Son - Male 7 1854 - Spitalfields, Middlesex, England
William Mander Son - Male 2 1859 - Spitalfields, Middlesex, England

House number 9
Street Chapel Street
Parish Bethnal Green
City or borough -
County London, Middlesex
Country England
Municipal ward West
Parliamentary borough Tower Hamlets
Ecclesiastical district St Thomas
Registration district Bethnal Green
Enumeration district -
Piece number 251
Folio number 78
Page number 32

They would not have been married for the 1851 census - did you look for them separately?

( 1851 census was the night of 30 March 1851.

1851 for Charles:

Charles Mander Head Married Male 70 1781 Basket Maker Leachkin, Warwickshire,
Mary Mander Wife Married Female 54 1797 - Brighton, Sussex, England
Charles Mander Son Unmarried Male 22 1829 Cabinet Maker Shoreditch, Middlesex,

Street Red Lion Street
Parish Shoreditch
City Tower Hamlets
County Middlesex
Parliamentary borough Borough of the Tower Hamlets
Municipal ward -
Registration district Shoreditch
Archive reference HO107
Piece number 1534
Folio 19
Page 31

Charles Mander
England and Wales Census, 1851
Name: Charles Mander
Age: 22
Gender: Male
Birthplace: Shoreditch, Middlesex
Relationship to Head of Household: Son
Schedule Type: Household

Name: Alice Cowland
Event Type: Census
Event Date: 1841
Gender: Female
Age: 10
Birthplace: Middlesex
Schedule Type: Household
Registration District: London, East
Sub-District: St Botolph
Parish: St Botolph Without Bishopsgate
County: Middlesex

If Alice's father died, she could be hiding under her step-father's name?

Marriages Dec 1850
Cowland Susannah E London 2 271
Miller John E London 2 271
Whiley Mary Ann E London 2 271
Whitley Richard E London 2 271

Eddie, what was Alice's address on the marriage certificate?

Address for both of them on marriage record was Red Lion St.

London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921
Name: Susannah Cowland
Spouse: Richard Whitley
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 30 Dec 1850
Parish: St Giles without Cripplegate
Borough: City of London
Father Name: John Sells
Spouse Father: Joseph Whitley
Register Type: Parish Register

Added:
Think this is the other Susannah Cowland from the 1841 census, as born about 1802 as showing in 1851 census with Richard.

thanks for your help so far

where did you find info can not find it on ancestry

1851 & 61 census from FMP

thank you

This is the 1861 on Ancestry: Mistranscribed as Mauder

Alice Mauder
Age: 30
Estimated Birth Year: 1831
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Charles Mauder
Gender: Female
Where born: Spitalfields, Middlesex, England
Civil Parish: Bethnal Green
Ecclesiastical parish: St Thomas
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England
Registration district: Bethnal Green
Sub-registration district: Hackney Road
ED, institution, or vessel: 11
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 177
Piece: 251
Folio: 78
Page Number: 32
Household Members:
Name Age
Charles Mauder 32
Alice Mauder 30
Charles Mauder 7
William Mauder 2

and 1851 on Ancestry: mistranscribed as Moeneler!!??

Name: Charles Moeneler
Age: 22
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1829
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Charles Moeneler
Mother's name: Mary Moeneler
Gender: Male
Where born: Shoreditch, Middlesex, England
Civil Parish: Shoreditch
Phillimore Ecclesiastical Parish Maps:
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County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England
Registration district: Shoreditch
Sub-registration district: St Leonard
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 117
Piece: 1534
Folio: 19
Page Number: 31
Household Members:
Name Age
Charles Moeneler 70
Mary Moeneler 54
Charles Moeneler 22

that's great thank you regards ed