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Karen
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14 Dec 2014 21:49 |
hi
I am trying to trace the family of a Francis Hopgood born 1805 hannover square London - died 1869 Kensington married in 1830 Eliza Ann Vogler born roughly 1800 in Switzerland and died 1860 Kensington any information is welcome thanks in advance karen
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GlitterBaby
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14 Dec 2014 22:03 |
Shame that none of the witnesses to the wedding are Hopgoods
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14 Dec 2014 22:05 |
Possible
Name: Francis Hopgood Baptism Date: 13 May 1805 Parish: St George, Hanover Square County: Middlesex Borough: Westminster Parent(s): Thomas Hopgood, Susannah Hopgood Record Type: Baptism Register Type: Bishop's Transcript
Birth date given as 27 Feb
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malyon
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14 Dec 2014 22:42 |
hi found them on 1851 census living in kensington
yvonne
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malyon
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14 Dec 2014 22:55 |
hi the son and married daughter of francis and eliza in 1881 census Francis R Hopgood England and Wales Census, 1881 Name: Francis R Hopgood Age (Original): 47 Gender: Male Birth Year: 1834 Birthplace: Paddington, Middlesex, England Relationship to Head of Household: Brother Marital Status: Married Occupation: Musician Address: 1 Grove Villas Event Place: Streatham, Surrey, England Record Type: Household Affiliate Publication Number: RG11 Piece/Folio: 664 / 77 Page Number: 6 Household Role Gender Age Birthplace Eliza S Jacobs Head F 50 Paddington, Middlesex, England Edward F Jacobs Son M 18 Hammersmith, Middlesex, England Lawrence F Jacobs Son M 16 Hammersmith, Middlesex, England John M Jacobs Son M 14 St Mary Abbotts, Middlesex, England Ellen E Jacobs Daughter F 10 St Mary Abbotts, Middlesex, England Francis R Hopgood Brother M 47 Paddington, Middlesex, England
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Chris Ho :)
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15 Dec 2014 07:09 |
Westminster Baptisms Transcription (Find My Past)
First name(s) ELIZA ELLEN Last name VOGLER Birth year 1798 Birth day 13 Birth month Aug Baptism year 1812 Baptism day 21 Baptism month Jan Parish St George, Hanover Square Father's first name(s) Thomas Mother's first name(s) Elizabeth County Middlesex Record set Westminster Baptisms
Chris :)
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LondonBelle
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15 Dec 2014 08:03 |
For info, the marriage that took place on 16 Jun 1830 to Francis Hopgood states that his wife was Eliza Ellen Vogler not Eliza Ann as original post
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15 Dec 2014 09:02 |
Burial records Name Francis Hopgood Abode Shepherds Bush Date 22 March 1869 Age 64 Place of Burial All Souls, Kendal Green Borough Kensington and Chelsea
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LondonBelle
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15 Dec 2014 09:14 |
Possible burial of Susannah Name Susannah Hopgood Abode St George's Court Burial Date 26 Apr 1807 Age 42 Place of Burial St George in the East Borough Tower Hamlets
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Kucinta
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15 Dec 2014 12:39 |
One of the two Eliza Hopgoods who died in 1860 was Eliza Ellen:
Deaths Sep 1860 HOPGOOD Eliza Kensington 1a 73 HOPGOOD Eliza Ellen Kensington 1a 79
NAME: Ellen Eliza Hopgood RECORD TYPE: Burial AGE: 61 ESTIMATED BIRTH YEAR: abt 1799 DEATH DATE: abt 1860 BURIAL DATE: 18 Aug 1860 BURIAL PLACE: All Souls, Kensal Green, England PARISH OR POOR LAW UNION: All Souls, Kensal Green BOROUGH: Kensington and Chelsea REGISTER TYPE: Bishop's Transcript
Note in margin says for Ellen Eliza read Eliza Ellen. Address is Poplar Cottage Shepherds Bush Hammersmith.
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Kucinta
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15 Dec 2014 12:46 |
The 1851 census gives Eliza's birthplace as Westminster, NOT Switzerland which tallies with the baptism Chris Ho found:
1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census
St Anes Villa, Paddington, Kensington, Middlesex, England
Francis Hopgood Head Married Male 46 1805 Nursary Hanover Square, Glamorganshire, Wales Eliza Hopgood Wife Married Female 50 1801 - Westminster, Middlesex, England << Eliza Hopgood Daughter Unmarried Female 20 1831 - Bayswater, Middlesex, England Francis Hopgood Son Unmarried Male 17 1834 - Bayswater, Middlesex, England Sarah Fitzgerald Servant Unmarried Female 26 1825 Servant Haddon, Middlesex, England Transcription Elizabeth Hopwood Servant - Female 22 1829 Servant Kensington, England John MacOrd Servant Unmarried Male 23 1828 - St Lawrence, Somerset, England James Plane Apprentice Unmarried Male 15 1836 Apprentice Marylebone, Middlesex, England
EDIT - Not sure where the Glamorganshire bit for Francis came from, as image says he was a nursery man, and birthplace is Hannover, St George , which would tie in well with the St George, Hanover Square baptism that GlitterBaby posted earlier for Francis.
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Kucinta
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15 Dec 2014 13:04 |
If this is the widowed Francis getting remarried in 1866, it confirms his father is named Thomas Hopgood, as per GlitterBaby's baptsim:
Name: Francis Hopgood<<<<<<<<<<< Spouse's Name: Jane Iremonges Ingledor Event Date: 22 May 1866 Event Place: Hammersmith, Middlesex, England Father's Name: Thomas Hopgood<<<<<<<<<<<<< Spouse's Father's Name: Thomas Iremonges Marital Status: Widowed<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Spouse's Marital Status: Widowed Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M01168-0 , System Origin: England-EASy , GS Film number: 1966293 , Reference ID: 436
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Kucinta
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15 Dec 2014 13:11 |
These might be Eliza Ellen's parents as per the baptism Chris Ho suggested for her:
First name(s) THOMAS Last name VOGLER Marriage year 1797 Marriage day 14 Marriage month Sep Parish St Anne, Soho Spouse's first name(s) ELIZABETH Spouse's last name DRURY Groom's parish St Anne Bride's parish St Anne County Middlesex Record set Westminster Marriages Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records Record collection Marriages & divorces Collections from Great Britain
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Chris Ho :)
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15 Dec 2014 16:39 |
https://www.deceasedonline.com/
(above has Hopgood also)
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Kucinta
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15 Dec 2014 17:20 |
Looks like Francis did remarry to Jane Iremonges Ingledor as I speculated previously (giving his father as Thomas Hopgood)
NAME: Francis Hopgood PROBATE DATE: 23 Apr 1869 DEATH DATE: 16 Mar 1869 DEATH PLACE: Middlesex, England REGISTRY: Principal Registry
The will of Francis Hopgood late of Shepherd's Bush in the county of Middlesex Nurseryman deceased who died 16th March 1869 at Shepherd's Bush aforesaid was proved at the Principal Registry by the oaths of Jane Hopgood of Shepherd's Bush aforesaid Widow the Relict. Effects under £2000.
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Kucinta
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15 Dec 2014 17:27 |
Francis appears in various trade directories, electoral registers etc
NAME: Francis Hopgood STREET ADDRESS: 18 19 Bayswater OCCUPATION: Florist & Seedsman PUBLICATION TITLE: 1856 Post Office Directory COUNTY: London COUNTRY: England PUBLICATION YEAR: 1856
NAME: Francis Hopgood YEAR: 1863 STREET ADDRESS: The Nurseries, Uxbridge-road, Shepherd's-bush, Hammersmith PARISH OR LOCATION: Hammersmith REFERENCE NUMBER: MR/PEO/1863/6
Share in copyholdhouse and land. Son Francis Robinson Hopgood appears underneath, at same address, also share in copyhold land and house.
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Karen
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16 Dec 2014 16:28 |
Hi all Thank you so much for the information you have given me. How amazing!! I really appreciate all your help. Thank you again Karen :-D
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