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16 Dec 2014 22:05 |
Not sure why you want to combine a search for Ann circa 1861 East Yorkshire with 1911 census search for Thomas Henry in North Yorkshire. Ann very likely dead before Thomas Henry was born. The two only very distantly related.
Ann was a spinster in 1851 so if she married she would not be a Pickering in 1861.
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16 Dec 2014 21:03 |
or ????????????
Name: Ann Puckering Event Type: Census Event Date: 1861 Gender: Female Age: 58 Relationship to Head of Household: Wife Birthplace: Garton, Yorkshire Schedule Type: Household Registration District: Hull Sub-District: 3 Myton Parish: Holy Trinity Residence County: Yorkshire (East Riding)
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16 Dec 2014 21:02 |
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Name: Ann Pickering Event Type: Census Event Date: 1861 Gender: Female Age: 59 Relationship to Head of Household: Head Birthplace: Beverley, Yorkshire Schedule Type: Household Registration District: Hull Sub-District: 1 Humber Parish: Holy Trinity Residence County: Yorkshire (East Riding)
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16 Dec 2014 20:57 |
you can delete the new thread now Ed and carry on with this one
Trying to trace Ann has been an exercise in futility. She was born 1802 in Leven East Yorkshire. In 1851 she is living with her mother Ann in Hull. The mother dies 1852 Hull and Ann reports the death. Then she disappears. She does not show up in 1861/71 census.She is not the Ann Pickering who died 1855 Sculcoates, 1858 Sculcoates, 1863 Hull, 1866 Driffield or 1870 Sculcoates. There are a few marriages which I also attempted to check via 1861/71 census but those that I could find were not her.
Suggestions what to try next?
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15 Dec 2014 21:47 |
Thanks for the census info. I had a quick look for possible deaths. Certainly lots to choose from. I guess that is what happens with common names.
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15 Dec 2014 18:01 |
Nudge up for Ed !!
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15 Dec 2014 11:10 |
Maybe Ruth's mother?
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Name: Margaret Jane Crudace Age: 13 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1868 Relationship to Head: Daughter Father: Robert Crudace Mother: Maryann Crudace Gender: Female Where born: Bishopton, Durham, England Civil Parish: Bishopton County/Island: Durham Country: England Education:
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View image Occupation: Scholar Registration district: Stockton Sub registration district: Sedgefield ED, institution, or vessel: 10 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 4902 Folio: 74 Page Number: 1 Household Members: Name Age Robert Crudace 48 Maryann Crudace 54 Margaret Jane Crudace 13
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15 Dec 2014 10:47 |
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Name: Ruth Cruddace Age: 3 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1888 Relation: Granddaughter Father's Name: James Cruddace Gender: Female Where born: Bishopton, Durham, England Civil Parish: Bishopton Ecclesiastical parish: St Peter Town: Bishopton County/Island: Durham Country: England Street address:
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View image Registration district: Stockton Sub registration district: Sedgefield ED, institution, or vessel: 10 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 4056 Folio: 16 Page Number: 4 Household Members: Name Age Robert Cruddace 59 Mary A Cruddace 64 James Cruddace 24 Ruth Cruddace 3
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Name: Ruth Cruddace Age: 13 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1888 Relation to Head: Servant Gender: Female Birth Place: Bishopton, Durham, England Civil Parish: Bishopton Ecclesiastical parish: Bishopton Town: Bishopton County/Island: Durham Country: England Street address:
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View image Registration district: Sedgefield Sub-registration district: Sedgefield ED, institution, or vessel: 6 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 4631 Folio: 73 Page Number: 4 Household schedule number: 26 Household Members: Name Age Elizabeth Walden 60 Mary Jane Walden 63 Evelian M Brown 2 Ruth Cruddace 13
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15 Dec 2014 08:25 |
FreeBMD has it mistranscribed as this:
Births Sep 1887 CRUDALE Ruth Stockton 10a 92
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15 Dec 2014 08:20 |
Birth reg: CRUDACE Ruth Stockton.10a 92 Q3 1887
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Ed
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14 Dec 2014 22:15 |
Thanks for the additional info.
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AnnCardiff
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14 Dec 2014 20:17 |
Amazon.com : Cruddace Brief History Origin & Coat of Arms ...
amazon.com/Cruddace-Brief-History-Origin-Family/dp/B0087OOJ1M
Amazon.com : Cruddace Brief History Origin & Coat of Arms Family Crest : Etchings Prints : Everything Else
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AnnCardiff
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14 Dec 2014 20:16 |
Last name: Cruddace
This interesting and unusual name of Medieval Scottish origin is a phonetic variant of the locational name Carruthers, itself from lands in the parish of Middlebie, Dumfriesshire, and pronounced in local speech "Cridders". the derivation of this surname is from the British (pre Roman) "ker", or the welsh "caer", meaning a fort, with a personal name, composed of the elements "red" and "ruler" possible "fort of Rydderch" the King Roderc of Adamnan. The family of Carruthers were in the thirteenth Century Stewards of Annandale, under the Bruces. Locational surnames were developed when former inhabitants of a place moved to another area, usually to seek work, and were best identified by the name of their birthplace. The name is recorded circa 1350 as "Caer Ruther", and the modern variants include Crothers, Carrodus, Cardis, Cruddace, and Caruth. One Bertha Cruddas is recorded in 1888, (Bardsley). The first recorded spelling of the family name is shown to be that of Simon Carruthers, (parson), which was dated 1278, in Middlebie, Dumfreishire, Scotland, during the reign of King Alexander 111, known as "King of Scotland", 1249 - 1286. Surnames became necessary when governments introduced personal taxation. In England this was known as Poll Tax. Throughout the centuries, surnames in every country have continued to "develop" often leading to astonishing variants of the original spelling.
Read more: http://www.surnamedb.com/Surname/Cruddace#ixzz3LuB7izmV
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14 Dec 2014 20:10 |
Name: George E Pickering Event Type: Birth Registration Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep Registration Year: 1911 Registration District: Stokesley County: Yorkshire Event Place: Stokesley, Yorkshire, England Mother's Maiden Name (not available before 1911 Q3): Cruddace Volume: 9D Page: 1297 Line Number: 138
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14 Dec 2014 20:10 |
Name: Thomas W Pickering Event Type: Birth Registration Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep Registration Year: 1915 Registration District: Stokesley County: Yorkshire Event Place: Stokesley, Yorkshire, England Mother's Maiden Name (not available before 1911 Q3): Cruddace Volume: 9D Page: 1175 Line Number: 104
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14 Dec 2014 20:08 |
Name: Ruth Cruddace Event Type: Marriage Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun Registration Year: 1906 Registration District: Stokesley County: Yorkshire Event Place: Stokesley, Yorkshire, England Volume: 9D Page: 1225 Line Number: 309 Ruth Cruddace probably married one of the following people Name: Thomas Henry Pickering
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14 Dec 2014 19:53 |
hi found a birth for ruth cruddace on here genes reunited born 1888 so was young when she married also found her in 1891 and 1901 census she is not listed in births in bdm site. yvonne
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Ed
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14 Dec 2014 18:32 |
Thanks - much appreciated. I had a look for a birth registration for Ruth Cruddace by looking for Ruth Cru* on freebmd but no luck. I guess that she could possibly be a widow. I will send for marriage cert since it appears to be the correct one.
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MargaretM
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14 Dec 2014 18:15 |
Oh not fair, Glitter! How did you beat me that time? I refreshed before I posted and you weren't there!
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14 Dec 2014 18:13 |
Possible but gives a different birthplace here:
1911 England Census about Thomas Henry Pickering Name: Thomas Henry Pickering Age in 1911: 34 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1877 Relation to Head: Head Gender: Male Birth Place: Yarm On Tees Civil Parish: Yarm County/Island: Yorkshire-North Riding Country: England Street address: Elliffs Ya Yarm Marital Status: Married Occupation: General Labourer Registration district: Stokesley Registration District Number: 536 Sub-registration district: Stokesley ED, institution, or vessel: 19 Piece: 29344 Household Members: Name Age Thomas Henry Pickering 34 Robert Henry Pickering 2 Ruth Pickering 24
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