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Member Since: November 2004 Posts: 8 Send Message	Malcolm	Report	13 Dec 2014 18:03
Member Since: November 2004 Posts: 8 Send Message	born Edmonton UK 17/08/1907, married Alice May Gillman 23/9/1933 in Hadleigh, Essex and died 27/2/1979. He had a Canadian passport 1930-35! Unable to find a birth record for him. Any thoughts/info would be appreciated. Malcolm
Member Since: December 2003 Posts: 7 821 Send Message	Thelma	Report	13 Dec 2014 18:17
	Are you sure he wasn't born in Canada?
Member Since: February 2007 Posts: 26 550 Send Message	Gee	Report	13 Dec 2014 18:20
	1911 England Census Name:John Jones Age in 1911:2 Estimated Birth Year:abt 1909 Relation to Head:Son Gender:Male Birth Place:Edmonton Civil Parish:Edmonton County/Island:Middlesex Country:England Street address: 1 Albert Cottages, Montague Road, Edmonton Registration district:Edmonton Registration District Number:132 Sub-registration district:Edmonton ED, institution, or vessel:14 Household schedule number:55 Piece:7364 Household Members: Name Age John Jones 35 Rose E Jones 30 Bernard Jones 6 John Jones 2 Douglas Jones 9m
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Member Since: March 2006 Posts: 90 986 Send Message	LondonBelle	Report	13 Dec 2014 18:21
	Could have been born in 1908? Births Sep 1908 Jones John Edmonton 3a 648
	Researching: Go on, make my day!
Member Since: February 2007 Posts: 26 550 Send Message	Gee	Report	13 Dec 2014 18:50
	He had a Canadian passport 1930-35 Malcolm What other family have you, for John?
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Member Since: January 2003 Posts: 13 478 Send Message	rootgatherer	Report	13 Dec 2014 19:08
	If he had a Canadian passport, could he have been born in Edmonton, Alberta, Canada please? Do you have the marriage certificate to see if he gives his father's name and occupation please?
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Member Since: April 2004 Posts: 23 482 Send Message	MargaretM	Report	13 Dec 2014 20:34
	Could this be his arrival in England? He's heading to Rayleigh Rd., Thundersleigh, Essex. He's a clerk. Country of last permanent residence was England. UK, Incoming Passenger Lists, 1878-1960 about John Jones Name: John Jones Birth Date: abt 1907 Age: 23 Port of Departure: New York, New York, United States Arrival Date: 7 Jan 1930 Port of Arrival: Liverpool, England Ports of Voyage: Halifax Ship Name: Doric Search Ship Database: Search for the Doric in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database Shipping line: White Star Dominion Line Official Number: 147215
	Researching: Great grandmother Dorothy Bean nee Abbott (1858-1908)
Member Since: February 2007 Posts: 26 550 Send Message	Gee	Report	13 Dec 2014 20:55
	England & Wales, Death Index, 1916-2007 Name:John Robert Jones Birth Date:17 Aug 1907 Date of Registration:Jun 1981 Age at Death:73 Registration district:Hereford Inferred County:Hereford and Worcester Volume:29 Page:0257
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Member Since: February 2007 Posts: 26 550 Send Message	Gee	Report	13 Dec 2014 21:02
	Or this death England & Wales, Death Index, 1916-2007 Name:John Jones Birth Date:Jul 1907 Date of Registration:Mar 1979 Age at Death:71 Registration district:Southend on Sea Inferred County:Essex Volume:9 Page:3551 Malcolm Could you let us have details for John please.....parents, siblings etc
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Member Since: April 2003 Posts: 472 Send Message	Amanda,	Report	13 Dec 2014 21:44
	Hi Gins I have just sent the Marriage to you from Seax so you can post the details although they are of little help! Kind regards Amanda
	Researching: Twitchett
Member Since: February 2007 Posts: 26 550 Send Message	Gee	Report	14 Dec 2014 06:36
	Hi Amanda Received your PM, no attachment :-S
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Member Since: November 2004 Posts: 8 Send Message	Malcolm	Report	14 Dec 2014 16:14
Member Since: November 2004 Posts: 8 Send Message	Hi, re John Jones It clearly states on his Canadian passport that he was born in Edmonton England on 17/8/1907. On the marriage cert his father is also John Jones. Neither seem to have middle names. At time of his marriage, John is 26 and a labourer. His father is given as Deceased. That's all I have. It's not as if Jones is a common name!!!
Member Since: April 2004 Posts: 23 482 Send Message	MargaretM	Report	14 Dec 2014 16:41
	The age is right for that one on the UK incoming passenger list. Does that address mean anything to you?
	Researching: Great grandmother Dorothy Bean nee Abbott (1858-1908)
Member Since: April 2004 Posts: 23 482 Send Message	MargaretM	Report	14 Dec 2014 17:02
	This fellow arriving in Canada gives name of nearest relative or friend in England as freind Mr. Manning, " St. Gemmy's", Raeplington Rd., Thundersley, Essex. (Same place as the one arriving in UK in 1930). He's also born Edmonton, England. Canadian Passenger Lists, 1865-1935 about John Jones Name: John Jones Gender: Male Age: 20 Birth Year: abt 1908 Birth Country: England Date of Arrival: 3 Jun 1928 Vessel: Ascania Search Ship Database: Search for the Ascania in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database Port of Arrival: Quebec, Canada Port of Departure: Southampton, England
	Researching: Great grandmother Dorothy Bean nee Abbott (1858-1908)
Member Since: May 2004 Posts: 2 262 Send Message	Gritty	Report	14 Dec 2014 17:06
Member Since: May 2004 Posts: 2 262 Send Message	Passenger list from Margee looks like a possible- he was a bus conductor Name: John Jones Birth Date: Jul 1907 Date of Registration: Mar 1979 Age at Death: 71 Registration district: Southend on Sea Inferred County: Essex Volume: 9 Page: 3551 Above is the correct death: JONES, John of 31 Southfield Dv, Hadleigh, Benfleet, Essex died 27 February 1979. Probate Ipswich 10 May £15876 https://probatesearch.service.gov.uk/Calendar?surname=jones&yearOfDeath=1979&page=65#calendar The death only includes a birth of July 1907- usually they have full DOB. Maybe there was some confusion.
Member Since: May 2004 Posts: 2 262 Send Message	Gritty	Report	14 Dec 2014 17:12
Member Since: May 2004 Posts: 2 262 Send Message	Who were the witnesses to the marriage?
Member Since: November 2004 Posts: 8 Send Message	Malcolm	Report	15 Dec 2014 20:21
Member Since: November 2004 Posts: 8 Send Message	Thanks everyone, GRO cannot find a birth for John Jones from 1906 to 1908, so maybe the 1909 one is right. Gritty: how did you find out he was a bus conductor? Margee: where do you get your ship data from especially with those personal comments? Kind regards
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Member Since: April 2004 Posts: 23 482 Send Message	MargaretM	Report	15 Dec 2014 20:34
	Malcolm, the passenger list was from Ancestry. Extra info from the original.
	Researching: Great grandmother Dorothy Bean nee Abbott (1858-1908)
Member Since: November 2004 Posts: 8 Send Message	Malcolm	Report	16 Dec 2014 10:12
Member Since: November 2004 Posts: 8 Send Message	Thanks Margee, you've been very helpful

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