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7 Dec 2014 13:18 |
Please could I ask for help in confirming the names of Thomas Swain 1854 Runcorn, Cheshire parentage. I believed they were William and Sarah but cannot be sure. Thomas married Ann Roberts in1877 at St Peters, Liverpool.
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Catherine
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7 Dec 2014 13:23 |
England, Select Marriages, 1538–1973 about Thomas Swain Name: Thomas Swain Gender: Male Marital Status: Single Age: 27 Birth Date: 1850 Marriage Date: 9 Dec 1877 Marriage Place: St. Peter, Liverpool, Lancashire, England Father: William Swain Spouse: Ann Roberts FHL Film Number: 1656685 Reference ID: it 5, p 3, no 6
..................marriage gives father as William, but date of birth is 1850, not 1854?
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Catherine
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7 Dec 2014 13:25 |
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1861 England Census about Thomas Swain Name: Thomas Swain Age: 12 Estimated Birth Year: 1849 Relation: Son Father's Name: William Swain Mother's name: Sarah Swain Gender: Male Where born: Runcorn Civil Parish: Toxteth Park Ecclesiastical parish: St Thomas County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street address: Occupation: Registration district: West Derby Sub-registration district: Toxteth Park ED, institution, or vessel: 32 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 262 Piece: 2703 Folio: 85 Page Number: 46 Household Members: Name Age William Swain 45 --occupation (looks like) Forgeman - born: Liverpool Sarah Swain 41 - born: Liverpool James Swain 18 Thomas Swain 12 Jane Swain 10 George Swain 3 Isaac Swain 1
If you buy the marriage cert. then this will confirm or not if this is the correct family as father's occupation should be noted. It will also give you an address which may help?
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MargaretM
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7 Dec 2014 13:40 |
This is the only one registered in Runcorn:
Births Jun 1849 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- SWAIN Thomas Runcorn 19 272
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MargaretM
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7 Dec 2014 13:45 |
1851 England Census about Thomas Swaine Name: Thomas Swaine Age: 2 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1849 Relation: Son Father's Name: William Swaine Mother's name: Sarah Swaine Gender: Male Where born: Runcorn, Cheshire, England Civil Parish: Runcorn Ecclesiastical parish: Holy Trinity Phillimore Ecclesiastical Parish Maps: View related Ecclesiastical Parish County/Island: Cheshire Country: England Registration district: Runcorn Sub-registration district: Budworth ED, institution, or vessel: 7a Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 62 Piece: 2164 Folio: 357 Page Number: 17 Household Members: Name Age William Swaine 36, chain or chair? maker Sarah Swaine 30 William Swaine 10 James Swaine 7 George Swaine 5 Thomas Swaine 2
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Catherine
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7 Dec 2014 13:46 |
1851 England Census about Thomas Swaine Name: Thomas Swaine Age: 2 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1849 Relation: Son Father's Name: William Swaine Mother's name: Sarah Swaine Gender: Male Where born: Runcorn, Cheshire, England Civil Parish: Runcorn Ecclesiastical parish: Holy Trinity Phillimore Ecclesiastical Parish Maps: View related Ecclesiastical Parish County/Island: Cheshire Country: England Street address: Registration district: Runcorn Sub-registration district: Budworth ED, institution, or vessel: 7a Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 62 Piece: 2164 Folio: 357 Page Number: 17 Household Members: Name Age William Swaine 36 - occupation:- Chainmaker Sarah Swaine 30 William Swaine 10 James Swaine 7 George Swaine 5 Thomas Swaine 2
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Catherine
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7 Dec 2014 13:53 |
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1841 England Census about Wm Swaine Name: Wm Swaine Age: 20 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1821 Gender: Male Where born: Lancashire, England Civil Parish: Toxteth Park Hundred: West Derby County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street address: Occupation: Labourer Registration district: West Derby Sub-registration district: Toxteth Park Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 567 Book: 4 Page Number: 3 Household Members: Name Age Wm Billingsley 50 Ann Billingsley 45 Wm Billingsley 20 Jane Billingsley 15 Ann Billingsley 15 Lydia Billingsley 8 Harriot Billingsley 7 Wm Swaine 20 Sarah Swaine 20 Elizabeth Swaine 6 Nk 8 Week
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Chris Ho :)
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7 Dec 2014 16:58 |
Cheshire Birth indexes for the years: 1846 to 1850 SWAIN Thomas Runcorn Halton (Mother Maiden Name) DICKINSON RUN/10/29
http://www.cheshirebmd.org.uk/cgi/birthind.cgi?county=cheshire
Chris :)
Marriages Sep 1838 (>99%) ------------------------------------------------------ DICKINSON Sarah Liverpool 20 152 SWAIN William Liverpool 20 152
Marriage: 24 Sep 1838 St Peter, Liverpool, Lancs. William Swain - Full Age, Labourer, Bachelor, Wilde St Sarah Dickinson - (X), Minor, Spinster, Burlington St Groom's Father: James Swain, Potter Bride's Father: Isaac Dickinson, Block Maker Witness: William Wignall; Ann Wignall, (X) Married by Banns by: J H Stafford Offg Minister Register: Marriages 1838 - 1839, Page 151, Entry 302 Source: LDS Film 93920
http://www.lan-opc.org.uk/Search/indexp.html
(if relating)
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Mark
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9 Dec 2014 14:22 |
Thanks Chris this relates to a friend I am helping.
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mgnv
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10 Dec 2014 06:02 |
http://www.cheshirebmd.org.uk/ Cheshire Birth indexes for the years: 1846 to 1850 Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference SWAIN Thomas Runcorn Halton DICKINSON RUN/10/29
Births Jun 1849 (>99%) SIMPSON Robert Runcorn 19 272 RUN/10/27 SUTTON Ruth Runcorn 19 272 RUN/10/29 SWAIN Thomas Runcorn 19 272
Just to check I've got the right local index entry, I looked up a couple of other entries on the same GRO page. The GRO register has 10 entries per page, and the local rego's have 5 per page. The last element of the local ref is either a local page # or an entry # - since there're two 29s, it must be page #s here, so we want the other refs to be no more than 2 pages away. They are OK, so we've got the matching entry, and thus Thos's mum's maiden surname.
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