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6 Dec 2014 13:29 |
Hi there, I am looking for a birth or census information please for William Downs. He was born around 1821 in either Leeds or Ireland. He married Ann Falan in 1843 and they were both living on Marsh Street, Leeds. Williams father is called Thomas and I can't interprete what Thomas' occupation was. Any help would be very much appreciated. Kind regards Danielle
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6 Dec 2014 13:36 |
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Name: William Downs Event Type: Baptism Christening Date: 12 Nov 1820 Christening Place: Sheffield, Yorkshire Father's Name: Thomas Downs Mother's Name: Sarah Downs Affiliate Publication Number: RG4_4435
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6 Dec 2014 13:37 |
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Name: William Downs Event Type: Census Event Date: 1861 Gender: Male Age: 40 Relationship to Head of Household: Head Birthplace: Ireland Schedule Type: Household Registration District: Leeds Sub-District: 1 South-East Leeds Ecclesiastical Parish: All Saints Parish: Leeds Residence County: Yorkshire (West Riding)
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6 Dec 2014 13:50 |
Thomas Downs' occupation was 'Weaver'.
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Potty
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6 Dec 2014 13:54 |
There is an image of the parish record of the marriage on Ancestry - Thomas's occupation is quite clear on that - Weaver. William is a wood turner. Have you found him on a later census to confirm his YOB - just says Full Age on the cert. Witnesses were David Hoyle and Mary Wright. Bride and grooms address - Marsh Lane.
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6 Dec 2014 13:59 |
There is a tree on Ancestry for him. This is the source they have for the 1841:
1841 England Census Wm Downs
Age:20 Estimated Birth Year:abt 1821 Gender:Male Where born:Ireland Civil Parish:Holbeck Ward Hundred:Morley County/Island:Yorkshire Country:England Street address: Holbeck Lane Occupation: Wood turner Registration district:Leeds Sub-registration district:Holbeck
David Hall 50 - same address but separate household Ann Brengan 25 b Ireland Wm Downs 20 n Ireland Bridget Downs 13 b Ireland
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6 Dec 2014 14:01 |
All the census sources on that tree give Ireland as POB.
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6 Dec 2014 14:14 |
Name: William Downs Event Type: Marriage Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec Registration Year: 1843 Registration District: Leeds County: Yorkshire Event Place: Leeds, Yorkshire, England Volume: 23 Page: 455 Line Number: 34 William Downs probably married one of the following people Name: Ann Falan
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6 Dec 2014 14:15 |
Name: Wm Downs Event Type: Census Event Date: 1841 Gender: Male Age: 20 Birthplace: Ireland Schedule Type: Household Registration District: Leeds Sub-District: Holbeck Parish: Leeds County: Yorkshire
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6 Dec 2014 14:22 |
There is a marriage in Leeds for a Susanah Downs, father Thomas a weaver. I was thinking she may be a sister to William.
Susanah' mother on 1871 census (below) is Ann. Maybe the 1851 census (below) are the parents to William
1851 England Census
Name:Ann Downs
Age:67
Estimated Birth Year:abt 1784
Relation:Wife
Spouse's Name:Thomas Downs
Gender:Female
Where born:Ireland
Civil Parish:Leeds
Ecclesiastical parish:All Saints Town:Leeds
County/Island:Yorkshire
Registration district:Leeds
Sub-registration district:South
ED, institution, or vessel:3k Household schedule number:106
Piece:2319 Folio:537 Page Number:24
Household Members:
Thomas Downs 75 Ann Downs 67 -------------------------------------------------------------
1871 England Census
Name:Ann Downs
Age:90
Estimated Birth Year:abt 1781
Relation:Mother
Gender:Female
Where born:Ireland
Civil Parish:Leeds
Ecclesiastical parish:Leeds
Town:Leeds
County/Island:Yorkshire
Registration district:Leeds
Sub-registration district:North Leeds
ED, institution, or vessel:30
Household schedule number:55 Piece:4553 Folio:145 Page Number:10
Household Members:
Susanah Ryan 57 Ann Downs 90 John West 35 Ann Walker 40
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West Yorkshire, England, Marriages and Banns, 1813-1935
Name:Susannah Downs
Birth Year:abt 1814
Age:30
Marriage or Bann Date:7 Dec 1844
Parish:Bradford, St Peter (Bradford Cathedral)
Father's Name:Thomas Downs <<Weaver
Spouse's Name:John Ryan
Spouse's Father's Name:John Ryan Wit: Samuel ? and James Lounder
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6 Dec 2014 17:18 |
That is absolutely brilliant thank you. Sounds like you are right about mother, father and sister. William did indeed marry Ann Falan in 1843 who I believe was also born in Ireland. They had a daughter Mary Ann Downes born 1850 in Leeds who is part of my ancestry, think they also had a son called William. Kind regards Danielle
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7 Dec 2014 11:34 |
There was a son William but he does not appear with the family in 1861 so he may have died
1851 England Census
Name: Mary Ann Downs [Mary Ann Downes]
Age:10 Mo
Estimated Birth Year:abt 1850
Relation:Daughter
Father's Name: William Downs
Mother's name: Ann Downs
Gender:Female
Where born:Leeds, Yorkshire, England
Civil Parish:Leeds
Ecclesiastical parish:All Saints
Phillimore Ecclesiastical Parish Maps:
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County/Island:Yorkshire
Registration district:Leeds
Sub-registration district:South
ED, institution, or vessel:3n
Household schedule number:99 Piece:2319 Folio:593 Page Number:31
Household Members:
William Downs 29 Ann Downs 28 Thomas Downs 5 William Downs 3 Mary Ann Downs 10 Mo --------------------------------------------------
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1861 England Census
Name: Mary A Downs [Mary A Downes]
Age:12
Estimated Birth Year:1849
Relation:Daughter
Father's Name: William Downs
Mother's name: Ann Downs
Gender:Female
Where born:Leeds, Yorkshire, England
Civil Parish:Leeds
Ecclesiastical parish:All Saints
Town:Leeds
County/Island:Yorkshire
Registration district:Leeds
Sub-registration district:South East Leeds
ED, institution, or vessel:28
Household schedule number:107 Piece:3374 Folio:62 Page Number:21
Household Members:
William Downs 40 Ann Downs 40 Thomas Downs 15 Mary A Downs 12 Margaret Downs 8 Sarah J Downs 5 Maria Downs 3 ------------------------------------------------------
1871 England Census Name: Margaret A Downes [Mary Ann Downes]
Age:20
Estimated Birth Year:abt 1851
Relation:Daughter
Mother's name:Ann Downes
Gender:Female
Where born:Leeds, Yorkshire, England
Civil Parish:Leeds
Ecclesiastical parish:Leeds
Town:Leeds
County/Island:Yorkshire
Registration district:Leeds
Sub-registration district:North Leeds
ED, institution, or vessel:32 Household schedule number:95 Piece:4554 Folio:13 Page Number:19
Household Members:
Ann Downes 48 <<Widow. Feather dealer Margaret A Downes 20 <<Flax mill hand Margaret Downes 18 <<Flax mill hand Maria Downes 13 Margaret A Fougerty 2 <<Grand D William Fougerty 11 Months <<Gran S
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