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Name: Hannah Geemin (Gumm on image)
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 5 Apr 1835 (Born 23 Nov 1834)
Father's Name: John Geemin (Merchants Clerk)
Mother's name: Elizabeth Geemin
Parish or Poor Law Union: Finsbury St Luke
Borough: Islington
Register Type: Parish Registers
(Abode, Chiswell Street)

Chris :)

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GUMM JOHN 1833 Westminster Marriages St Margaret, Westminster, Middlesex, England Elizabeth Mason. ( 29 Dec Bachelor, Spinster, wits. Susannah Mason, Wm Martin)

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(1841 Ancestry, as below)

Hannah Gumin abt 1835 Middlesex, England

If you wanted to find out Elizabeth's maiden name, this might be Thomas's birth reg

Name: Thomas Gumm
Registration Year: 1839
Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun
Registration district: Shoreditch
Inferred County: London
Volume: 2
Page: 400

1851

Name: Thomas Gum
Age: 11
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1840
Relation: Son
Mother's name: Elizabeth Gum
Gender: Male
Where born: Shoreditch, Middlesex, England
Civil Parish: St Giles Cripplegate
Ecclesiastical parish: St Bartholomew
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England
Street address: - 48 Forestreet

Registration district: East London
Sub-registration district: Cripplegate
ED, institution, or vessel: 1k
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 200
Piece: 1525
Folio: 414
Page Number: 46
Household Members:
Name Age
Elizabeth Gum 49 -transcribed p.o.b Eustorpt, Lincolnshire, England. Not sure what it is!
Thomas Gum 11

Although Elizabeth is still married, John is not listed

Brother Thomas who might have been the witness at her marriage??

Name: Thomas Gumm
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 19 Apr 1840
Father's Name: John Gumm - Gent
Mother's name: Elizabeth Gumm
Parish or Poor Law Union: Shoreditch St Leonard
Borough: Hackney
Register Type: Parish Registers

Address Old Street Rd

Can't find her either of her parents on Ancestry, not even the 1841!

Perhaps its tired eyes :-0

Sorry abt the incorrect marriage year - I have it correct on paper.

Thanks
Much appreciated

Have deleted my first post which had the wrong information.

Kath. x

It does look right,. doesn't it? The 1841 wasn't coming up on Ancestry.

In 1851 & 1861 she is with other families plying her trade as a Teacher.

1851
Name: Hannah Gumm
Age: 16
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1835
Gender: Female
Where born: St Lukes, Middlesex, England
Civil Parish: Westminster St James
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England
Street address:
Occupation: - Teacher
Registration district: St James Westminster
Sub-registration district: Golden Square
ED, institution, or vessel: 5a
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 216
Piece: 1485
Folio: 190
Page Number: 42


Name Age
Elizabeth Bridges 45
Ann Rise 23
Frances Hurff 17
Elizabeth Hurff 16
Hannah Gumm 16
Jane Pooley 19
..............

Might Sophia be a sister?

Name: Hannah Gumm
Age: 26
Estimated Birth Year: 1835
Gender: Female
Where born: London City, Middlesex, England
Civil Parish: St George in the East
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England
Street address: St Mary's School
Occupation: School board teacher
Registration district: St George In The East
Sub-registration district: St Paul
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 102
Piece: 278
Folio: 7
Page Number: 14
Household Members:
Name Age
Henry Thurley James 26
Mary Ann James 26
Mary Ann James 2
Hannah Gumm 26 - says City of London
Sophia Gomm 25 - Islington

The 1851 census she is a School Mistress Assistant so seems to be the correct one:-

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place

Elizabeth Bridges Head Unmarried Female 45 1806 National School Mistress Twickenham, Middlesex, England
Ann Rise Niece Unmarried Female 23 1828 National School Mistress Assistant Hendon, Middlesex, England
Frances Spaff Cousin Unmarried Female 17 1834 National School Mistress Assistant Middlesex, England
Elizabeth Spaff Cousin Unmarried Female 16 1835 National School Mistress Assistant Middlesex, England
Hannah Gumm - Unmarried Female 16 1835 National School Mistress Assistant St Luke's, Middlesex, England<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Jane Pooley - Unmarried Female 19 1832 General Servant Coltishall, Norfolk, England

Address:- Marshall Street, Saint James Westminster, Middlesex

Kath. x

Looking at DetEcTive's post it would seem that the 1841 census I posted above does have the correct father.

Kath. x

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Name: Hannah Gumm
Gender: Female
Birth Date: 23 Nov 1834
Baptism Date: 5 Apr 1835
Baptism Place: St. Luke, Finsbury, Middlesex, England
Father: John Gumm
Mother: Elizabeth
FHL Film Number: 585443
Reference ID: yr 1834-1837 p 78

Perhaps Gumm was her maiden name. There is this one born Middlesex at about the right time. This is the 1841 census:-

First name(s) Last name Gender Age Birth year Birth place

Henry Fendick Male 25 1816 -
Elizabeth Fendick Female 30 1811 -
Thomas Fendick Male 20 1821 -
Sarah Fendick Female 15 1826 -
William Ashley Male 15 1826 -
Robert May Male 14 1827 Middlesex, England
Maria Rowley Female 15 1826 Middlesex, England
John Gumm Male 30 1811 -
Elizabeth Gumm Female 35 1806 -
Hannah Gumm Female 6 1835 Middlesex, England<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Thomas Gumm Male 2 1839 Middlesex, England

Address: Fore Street, St Giles Without Cripplegate, London, East, Middlesex

Kath. x

Do you have the date of the marriage wrong??

Name: Hannah Gumm
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1835
Age: 43
Spouse: James Barton (widow)
Spouse Age: 43
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 23 Apr 1878
Parish: Herne Hill
Borough: Southwark
Father Name: John Gumm - Commercial Clerk
Spouse Father: William Barton
Register Type: Parish Register

Both were teachers. Her first marriage living in Herne Hill

Witnesses Thomas Gumm and Susannah Bowling?

I would like to trace Hannah back if possible please. Hannah Gumm married James Barton 1876 Camberwell. In 1881 they are living in St Pancras and Hannah a school teacher shows as being born abt 1835 St Luke's Mdx.. Unfortunately I do not have marriage cert so I do not know if she was spinster or widow. It was the second marriage for James who died 1909 Hendon. Hannah died 1912 Hendon.