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Brilliant Chris.....will do.

I still can't believe he was born in Chepstow though !!

Bye,
Elizabeth

http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/D8037509

(can make out 133 Dock Street on image above, you need to download. £3.30.

Chris :)

Oooo Maryb,

Now that's an interesting find not one I've checked out.....will deal with it now.

Bye
Elizabeth :-)

Could this man be connected??
On ancestry.co.uk.

Thomas Henry Jefferson born Chepstow 1866
medals awarded to WW1 merchant seamen 1914-1925.

I can't see a birth for this man either.

Maryb.

Oops !
Sorry to say have no idea what the B stands for.......probably adopted the Bushy name as well.

Looking back through my Thomas research there is no evidence of a B for Agnes in her Birth Registry A/J 1869 Chepstow nor her Baptism 30th Oct 1870 St Brides Netherwent Newport Mon. nor on her marriage 29th March 1887 and not on any Census'

Agnes was born to Sarah, 2nd wife of John Thomas ( bt 29th Aug. 1824 Undy mon died 10th March 1905 in Chepstow Workhouse)
Wife Sarah Ann Evans b. abt 1847 and died O/D 1870 aged 23.
Sarah & John married A/J 1867 Newport

No "B"'s about ....

Sorry for the misunderstanding.....

I'm afraid you misunderstood my post, copied here .


What does the B represent?

JEFFERSON AGNES B 1869 1922 1922 Deaths & burials Newport (Monmouthshire), Monmouthshire, Wales

I meant what does the B stand for in the woman's death record

Apologies to JAQUELINE, on the Cen. 1911 there were only the 4 Bushby Jefferson children but on his marriage Ivor Lionel became Bushby Jefferson making it 5.
Also for showing a capital B instead of lower case for Agnes Jefferson nee Thomas' birth as 1869.

I have researched the census' 1871and 1881 in England for Thomas Henry Jefferson born about 1867 in the DURHAM area ..... message board post. Any suitable candidate, using varients of his baptismal name was followed through for a marriage & death. Lots still appeared in the 1891 census in northern England and were thus eliminated.

Any James & Jane combination with surname varients were also checked in Northumberland, Newcastle upon Tyne, Yorkshire and Durham areas.

I used Family Search, Ancestry, Genes, Find my Past & Free BMD. and gone over them many times in case I missed something.

As other children added BUSHBY after the death of their mother maybe this indicates the need to reinforce a link between Jefferson / Bushby as opposed to it being "just a loose connection as suggested " Now mother Agnes has passed away this can be achieved without offending her. Possibly the Bushby baptismal names were included when Thomas Henry was present and not included in those births which were only registered by Agnes......I have no proof, just speculating.

Your advice is welcomed, I'm a novice researcher and this is the first time I've used the message boards......hopefully I'll improve these skills as well.

regards,
Elizabeth

('B' gets added to below also, soon after Death of Mother)


Marriages Dec 1922 (>99%)
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DEX Frank E D Jefferson Newport M 11a 440
JEFFERSON Amelia J B Dex Newport M 11a 440


02 December 1922 - Cheltenham Chronicle - Cheltenham, Gloucestershire

Marriage
Dex - Jefferson. November 27, at St. Paul's Church, Newport, Frank E.D. second son of Mr. and Mrs. A.E. Dex, Bransford, Hewlett Road, Cheltenham, to Amelia J.B. eldest surviving daughter, of Mr. and the late Mrs. T.H. Jefferson, 133, Dock Street, Newport.

The name doesn't have to be a 'family' one.

My stepmother's second name was Evans..................added because a 'friend' of her parents promised a legacy if the child was named after her.

The legacy didn't materialise

Not sure where you get FIVE children with the name in 1911

1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
133 Dock St Newport Mon, Newport, Monmouthshire, Wales


First name(s) Last name Relationship to household head Marital condition Gender Age Birth year Birth place Occupation
Thomas H Jefferson Head Married Male 44 1867 Sunburgh Yorkshire Hauler And Fraw Ler Transcription
Agnes Jefferson Wife Married Female 42 1869 Crescent Monmouth - Transcription
Annie Jefferson Daughter Single Female 23 1888 Redwers Nr Nusket - Transcription
Sidney Joseph Jefferson Son Single Male 19 1892 Newport Mon Assisting Father Transcription
Alfred James Jefferson Son Single Male 17 1894 Newport Mon Assisting Father Transcription
Reynold Jefferson Son Single Male 15 1896 Newport Mon Assisting Father Transcription
Ivor Leo Jefferson Son - Male 13 1898 Newport Mon School Transcription
Amelia Jane Jefferson Daughter Single Female 11 1900 Newport Mon School Transcription
Beatrice Agnes Jefferson Daughter Single Female 9 1902 Newport Mon - Transcription
Alice Bushley Jefferson Daughter Single Female 7 1904 Newport Mon - Transcription
Phyllis Bushley Jefferson Daughter Single Female 5 1906 Newport Mon - Transcription
Horace Bushley Jefferson Son Single Male 2 1909 Newport Mon - Transcription
Dorothy Bushley Jefferson Daughter Single Female 0 1911 Newport Mon - Transcription


Corrections submitted to FMP

According to Alice's probate record Beatrice Agnes Bushby Jefferson was one of the executors - so that is 5. Ivor Leo B Jefferson's death looks like he also added the Bushby.

I see Jacquiline has edited her post, as she was referring to 4 with the Bushby name.

Plus one with info which was deleted

Please say what research you have done, Elizabeth..........so that people don't duplicate again

What does the B represent?

JEFFERSON AGNES B 1869 1922 1922 Deaths & burials Newport (Monmouthshire), Monmouthshire, Wales

RELATED THREAD ...

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1346882

Is this another family?? Or was Thomas born elsewhere?

EDIT apologies, it's been mis-transcribed - have sent correction.


1911 Wales Census

Name: Thos H Jefferson
Age in 1911: 44
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1867
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Cambridgeshire, England
Civil Parish: Newport
County/Island: Monmouthshire
Country: Wales
Street address: 133 Cow St Newport Mon
Marital Status: Married
Years Married: 24
Estimated Marriage Year: 1887
Registration district: Newport
Registration District Number: 587
Sub-registration district: Newport

Thos H Jefferson 44
Alice Bushby Jefferson 7
Phyllis Bushby Jefferson 5
Horace Bushby Jetton 2
Dorothy Bushby Jetton 1/12
Agnes Jefferson 42
Annie Jefferson 23
Sidney Joseph Jefferson 19
Alfred James Jefferson 17
Reginald Jefferson 15
Ivor Leo Jefferson 13
Amelia Green Jefferson 11
Beatrice Agnes Jefferson

Jan

In Cen.1911 Thomas & Agnes Jefferson's 5 youngest children b.1898-1911 in Newport have BUSHBY as a middle name. A mystery to all living relatives.

Thomas is in 1891 cen. following marr.to Agnes 1887 NEWPORT Mon. father James dec'd farmer.
Thomas was born Northumberland /Guisborough Yksh or Newcastle upon Tyne area 1866/67.
Thomas bt aged 21 in Newport, parents James & Jane. No luck tracing any of them.

Link is definatly not through Agnes Thomas, wife of Thomas Jefferson.

Can anyone help with this query please ?