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Hi there, does anyone know what this book actually?
Record pedigrees?
And where could I see a hard copy of this?
I'm interested in calculating the family of Henry Tolson died 1603 and also to see if he actually died in 1623 (possibly typo)?
Best wishes,
Peter
http://archive.org/stream/pedigreesrecorde00sainrich/pedigreesrecorde00sainrich_djvu.txt
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Your link says that a hard copy is held at the University of California - as there are a number of Unis in California, it could be any one of them!
The text implies that RICHARD St. GEORGE, NORROY, King of Arms in 1615, & WILLIAM DUGDALE, NORROY, King of Arms in 1666. visited Cumberland and Westmoreland and invited the families of quality to submit their genealogies.
See http://www.medievalgenealogy.org.uk/guide/vis.shtml
In 1887 Joseph Foster decided to gather together the various manuscripts and publish the information for Victorian genealogists to consult.
As we would consider medieval script to be a foreign language, there is a possibility that errors have occurred. According to the medieval genealogy link, the original information wasn't necessarily accurate to begin with and subject to flights of fancy.
The British Library may have a copy as might the College of Arms. A further link on the information pages suggests the Harelian Society although Joseph Foster criticises their translation of the script.
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Thank you for that! Good to see and have this detailed response. I always appreciate second opinions!
Keeps me on track!
x
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_California says
"University of California
Not to be confused with its formerly synonymous first campus, the University of California, Berkeley."
Well, obviously there will be confusion with UC Berkley which was the University of California for more than 50 y, until a second campys (UCLA) opened in 1919.
Established in 1868 as the result of the merger of the private College of California and the public Agricultural, Mining, and Mechanical Arts College in Oakland, Berkeley is the oldest institution in the UC system.
Most of the unis west of the Atlantic seaboard had strong vocational streams in things like farming, mining & forestry.
The early pictures of UC Berkley show an isolated building in the middle of farmlands, and for at least a century, the uni had farmland nearby.
Firstly, the title indicates a probable publishing date of 1891?
This is reinforced by the call # detailed in the MARC record:
CS437.C8
S3 1891
If one of the 150 copies were purchased within a quarter century of this date, there would only be the Berkeley campus.
Now look at "Call number: nrlf_ucb"
The Northern Regional Library Facility (NRLF) is a cooperative library storage facility, the first of its kind in California. It is owned and operated by the University of California and is located on the grounds of UC Berkeley's Richmond Field Station.
http://www.lib.berkeley.edu/libraries/nrlf
So that's where this book is actually stored, abt 10km from the main campus.
I would recommend reading the original book online, or downloading the pdf for offline use, using the links at:
https://archive.org/details/pedigreesrecorde00sainrich
I find dejavu pretty useless.
It would resolve whether the was a typo in the dejavu transcription of the printed work, but not a typo in the printed work itselof.
For that, you'ld need to see the original visitation manuscripts.
Maybe the text says where they were found.
Alternatively, I would try contacting the Cumbria Archives:
http://www.cumbria.gov.uk/archives/
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Thank you for this and please excuse my late reply x
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