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michelle
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15 Nov 2014 18:08 |
How do I go about tracing my Grandmothers siblings and their possible children ? I recently found my grandmother in Australia ! And wanted to find out if she had siblings who then may have children Thanks :-)
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michelle
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15 Nov 2014 18:09 |
Also how do I find out where my grandmother was born and then lived as we feel there is a link with Wales ? Thanks :-)
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alviegal
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15 Nov 2014 20:41 |
If you tell us your grandmother's name and year of birth and any other relevant information including how you found her in Australia, we may be able to help.
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michelle
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15 Nov 2014 21:09 |
Thanks her maiden name was Eleanor Long born in 1921, I have another thread on here from when I was searching for her originally and through support of this website and my research I found her !!!! But it is early days
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RottenR
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15 Nov 2014 21:44 |
These are related threads
http://mygenesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1344869
http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1345433
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michelle
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15 Nov 2014 22:12 |
Thanks yes these are the links
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mgnv
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16 Nov 2014 01:55 |
This looks like the right mob:
Using http://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl Births Mar 1921 (>99%) Long Eleanor Currie Chorlton 8c 1557
Births Jun 1928 (>99%) Long Joan Currie Manchester S. 8d 299
Marriages Jun 1920 (>99%) Currie Georgina Long Chorlton 8c 2809 Long George F Currie Chorlton 8c 2809
Using http://www.lancashirebmd.org.uk/ Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1920 Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference LONG George F CURRIE Georgina Moss Side, Baptist Church, Moss Lane East Manchester 259/6/9
A search at http://search.ancestry.co.uk/search/db.aspx?dbid=9095 gets Name Birth Year Marriage Date Marriage Place Relatives View Images George Francis Long year date city, Manchester, England John,Georgina As you can see, I don't have a sub *** IF ANYONE HAS AN ANCESTRY SUB, COULD THEY PLEASE PROVIDE THE DETAILS ***
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SylviaInCanada
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16 Nov 2014 04:19 |
how did you know I would be along some time this evening, mgnv?? :-)
Manchester, England, Non-Conformist Marriages, 1758-1937 about George Francis Long
Name: George Francis Long Gender: Male Birth Year: abt 1892 Marriage Age: 28 Marriage Date: 3 Apr 1920 Marriage Place: Moss Side, Manchester, England Church: Moss Lane East Church Father Name: John Long Spouse Name: Georgina Currie Spouse Marriage Age: 24 Spouse Father Name: Joseph Alexander Currie
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George Francis
Bachelor Occupation:- Clerk, Cotton Waste Address:- 22 George Street, Moss Side Father occupation:- Blacksmith (deceased)
Georgina
Spinster Age:- 24 no occupation shown Address:- 26 Darncombe (???spelling) Street, Moss Side Father occupation:- Engraver
Witnesses:- H M A Barber, Frank ??? Major??, and Joseph A Currie
and in the presence of T J Whitman, Minister, Authorised Person for the said Church
Church was Moss Side Baptist Church, Chorlton
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SylviaInCanada
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16 Nov 2014 04:33 |
This looks like George Francis in 1911
1911 Census
es. 1911 England Census about George Francis Long Name: George Francis Long Age in 1911: 19 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1892 Relation to Head: Son Gender: Male Birth Place: Hulme, Lancashire, England Civil Parish: South Manchester County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street address: 162 York Street Marital Status: Single Occupation: Commercial Clerk Registration district: Chorlton Registration District Number: 464 Sub-registration district: Hulme ED, institution, or vessel: 34 Piece: 23899
John Long 58 b.ca 1853, Salford, Lancashire, Shopkeeper (Confectionery) Isabella Long 52 b.ca 1859, Derrygonnely, Ireland, Assisting in Business George Francis Long 19 Commercial Clerk in Cotton Waste Warehouse Nellie Long 17 b.ca 1894, Hulme, Lancashire, Machinist (Blouses)
John and Isabella had been married 25 years, 3 children born, 1 died, 2 still living
John was a Blacksmith on the 1901 Census
FYI ................... I do not think this is YOUR G F Long .............. he gives a home address in Dartmouth, Devon when he enlisted, and an employer's address in Dartmouth. Just does not fit!
British Army WWI Service Records, 1914-1920 about George Francis Long
Name: George Francis Long Gender: Male Birth Date: abt 1894 Birth Place: Dartmouth, Devon, England Age at Enlistment: 18 Document Year: 1912 Regimental Number: 784 Regiment Name: Devon ?? Number of Images: 10 Form Title: Territorial Force Attestation
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SylviaInCanada
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16 Nov 2014 05:01 |
I think this is Georgina in 1901
1901 Census
Name: Georgina Currie Age: 5 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1896 Relation to Head: Granddaughter Gender: Female Birth Place: Salford, Lancashire, England Civil Parish: Moss Side Ecclesiastical parish: Whalley Range St Edmund County/Island: Lancashire Country: England
Registration district: Chorlton Sub-registration district: Hulme ED, institution, or vessel: 68
Piece: 3709 Folio: 111 Page Number: 5 Household schedule number: 23
Alexander Currie 67 b.ca 1834, Scotland, Bootmaker Elizabeth Currie 60 b.ca 1841, Salford, Lancashire Annie Elizth Currie 13 b.ca 1888, Manchester, Lancashire, Granddaughter Lilian Currie 11 b.ca 1890, Hyde, Cheshire, Granddaughter Georgina Currie 5 Georgina Findlater 42 Boarder Mary Elizth Lawton 24 Boarder
Address:- 26 Damcoule (???spelling) Street
and in 1911
1911 Census
Name: Georgina Currie Age in 1911: 15 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1896 Relation to Head: Granddaughter Gender: Female Birth Place: Broughton, Lancashire Civil Parish: South Manchester County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street address: 26 Darncombe Street Occupation: Machinist Registration district: Chorlton Registration District Number: 464 Sub-registration district: Hulme ED, institution, or vessel: 49 Piece: 23914
Alexander Currie 77 b.ca 1834, Aberdeen, Widower, Bootmaker Jennie Elizabeth Currie 48 b.ca 1863, Hulme, Lancashire, Daughter-in-law Annie Elizabeth Currie 23 Lilian Currie 21 Georgina Currie 15 Machinist (Household Linen) Georgina Findlater 53 Boarder
and finally, we get the father Joseph A Currie
1891 Census
Name: Joseph A Currie Age: 28 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1863 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Jeannie A Currie Gender: Male Where born: Manchester, Lancashire, England Civil Parish: Broughton Ecclesiastical parish: St Clement County/Island: Lancashire Country: England
Registration district: Salford Sub registration district: Broughton [Near Salford] ED, institution, or vessel: 15
Piece: 3212 Folio: 119 Page Number: 44
Joseph A Currie 28 Engraver to Calico Printer Jeannie A Currie 29 b.ca 1862, Manchester, Lancashire Annie E Currie 3 b.ca 1888, Manchester Lillian Currie 1 b.ca 1890, Hyde, Cheshire Georgina Findlater 32 b.ca 1859, Manchester, Sister-in-Law, Lodger
Address:- 31 Alexander Street
from lancs bmd
Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1885
CURRIE Joseph A FINDLATER Jennie E Chorlton-on-Medlock Register Office or Registrar Attended Archives+, Manchester Central Library CHO_RM/70/83
England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index, 1837-1915 about Jennie Elizabeth Findlater
Name: Jennie Elizabeth Findlater Registration Year: 1885 Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep Registration district: Chorlton Parishes for this Registration District: View Ecclesiastical Parishes associated with this Registration District Inferred County: Lancashire Volume: 8c Page: 1082 Records on Page: Name Joseph Alexander Currie Jennie Elizabeth Findlater
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SylviaInCanada
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16 Nov 2014 05:13 |
Joseph was staying elsewhere in 1901
1901 Census
Name: Joseph A Currie Age: 37 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1864 Relation to Head: Visitor Gender: Male Birth Place: Manchester, Lancashire, England Civil Parish: South Manchester Ecclesiastical parish: Ardwick St Silas County/Island: Lancashire Country: England
Registration district: Chorlton Sub-registration district: Ardwick ED, institution, or vessel: 022
Piece: 3677 Folio: 12 Page Number: 15 Household schedule number: 91
Frederick Livesey 42 Hannah Livesey 33 Alexander Livesey 11 William Livesey 9 Mary E Livesey 6 Frederick Livesey 2 Dorothy Livesey 4/12 Joseph A Currie 37 Calico Printer's Engraver
Address:- 18 Cross Street
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England & Wales, Death Index, 1916-2007 about Joseph A Currie
Name: Joseph A Currie Birth Date: abt 1862 Date of Registration: Sep 1937 Age at Death: 75 Registration district: South Manchester Inferred County: Lancashire Volume: 8d Page: 197
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mgnv
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16 Nov 2014 06:16 |
Hi Sylvia - FYI Ancestry has the (untranscribed) Oldham Cemetery Registers online, see: http://search.ancestry.co.uk/search/db.aspx?dbid=9935
As to why you'ld be along - maybe the same as me - all that's on TV is reruns until the election results come in at 10pm. There's a soccer game - but I know Austria wins 1-0 over Russia. Maybe I'll watch a couple of shows I missed on https://www.knowledge.ca/
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michelle - in one of your numerous other threads it was explained how to find full siblings (provided they're born in England or Wales). You have the GRO index entry for your gran's birth: Surname First name(s) Mother District Vol Page Births Mar 1921 (>99%) Long Eleanor Currie Chorlton 8c 1557
Now a full sib will normally have the same father's surname and mother's maiden surname listed, so you just look that combination up. In this case, there appear to be 2 families, one in Chorlton area, and the other in the Canterbury area presumably offspring of this marr:
Surname First name(s) District Vol Page Marriages Mar 1909 (>99%) BILLYEALD Arthur Edgar Canterbury 2a 1294 COUTABLE Madeleine Marie Canterbury 2a 1294 CURRIE Minnie Canterbury 2a 1294 LONG Herbert Leonard Canterbury 2a 1294
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SylviaInCanada
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16 Nov 2014 08:03 |
hi mgnv ................
I've used those Oldham Cemetery Registers on familysearch ........... I did not know they were on ancestry. Thank you!
Just finished watching the results for here :-)
It's going to be an interesting 4 years :-D
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mgnv
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16 Nov 2014 08:45 |
1881 England Census Civil Parish: Moss Side County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street address: 26 Darncombe St Registration district: Chorlton Sub registration district: Hulme ED, institution, or vessel: 76 Piece: 3939 Folio: 5 Page Number: 4
Alexander Currie 48 Scotland Head M Bootmaker Elizabeth Currie 40 Salford, Lancashire, England Wife M Joseph A. Currie 17 Manchester, Lancashire, England Son Machine Engraver (C P) Elizabeth Hewitt 40 Flintshire, Wales Boarder Cook (Dom) J.W. Lees 23 Manchester, Lancashire, England Boarder Coal Merchant Frederic Livesey 22 Manchester, Lancashire, England Boarder Railway Labourer
1871 https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VBJW-C1F
1861 Census Piece: RG9/2941 Place: Deansgate -Lancashire Enumeration District: 19 Civil Parish: Manchester Ecclesiastical Parish: St John Folio: 52 Page: 4 Schedule: 15 Address: 6 Jerusalem Place Surname First name(s) Rel Status Sex Age Occupation Where Born Remarks LIVESEY Joseph Head M M 48 Warehouseman Lancashire - Manchester LIVESEY Frances Wife M F 48 Lancashire - Manchester LIVESEY Joseph Son U M 18 Gilder Lancashire - Manchester LIVESEY Elizabeth Dau U F 20 Servant Lancashire - Manchester LIVESEY Mary Dau U F 9 Scholar Lancashire - Manchester LIVESEY William Son U M 7 Scholar Lancashire - Manchester LIVESEY Frederick Son U M 2 Lancashire - Manchester Possibly: Marriage: 1 Dec 1836 Collegiate, Manchester, Lancashire, England Joseph Livesey - Warehouseman, Bachelor, this Parish Frances Leigh - Spinster, this Parish Witness: Richard Norbury; Elizabeth Springthorp Married by Banns by: W. W. Johnson Dep. Chap. Register: Marriages 1836 from the Bishop's Transcripts, Page 1002, Entry 3006 Source: LDS Film 1545611
Maybe someone could check out this 1861 hit (especially his occup) at: http://search.ancestry.co.uk/search/db.aspx?dbid=1080
Name Parent or spouse names Estimated Birth Year Birthplace Relation Civil Parish County Alexander Currie Ann abt 1834 location relation city
It might match: 1841 Census Piece: SCT1841/168 Place: Old Machar -Aberdeenshire Enumeration District: 20 Civil Parish: Gilcomston Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island: - Folio: 8 Page: 16 Address: Summer Street Surname First name(s) Sex Age Occupation Where Born Remarks CURRIE Ann F 39 Independent Aberdeenshire CURRIE Alexander M 8 Aberdeenshire CURRIE Ann F 10 Aberdeenshire CURRIE Isabel F 6 Aberdeenshire CURRIE Margaret F 2 Aberdeenshire
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Jacqueline
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16 Nov 2014 10:29 |
Why have you started yet ANOTHER thread?
http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1344521
You know that it causes irritation, and a lot of wasted effort
You were given the sister's birth info in September, and did nothing about following it up
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mgnv
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17 Nov 2014 00:47 |
Here's an alternative to my last Alex:
1851 Census Piece: SCT1851/164 Place: Rathven -Banffshire Enumeration District: 1 Civil Parish: Rathven Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island: - Folio: 123 Page: 1 Schedule: 6 Address: Free Church Street
Surname First name(s) Rel Status Sex Age Occupation Where Born Remarks MCKENZIE George Head M M 23 Shoemaker Emp 1 Man Banffshire - Deskford MCKENZIE Janet Wife M F 27 Banffshire - Portsoy MCKENZIE Elizabeth Dau - F 3 Banffshire - Deskford MCKENZIE George Son - M 1 Banffshire - Buckie Page: 123/2 CURRIE Alexander Servnt U M 17 Shoemaker Jrnymn Banffshire - Rathven
1841 Census Piece: SCT1841/164 Place: Rathven -Banffshire Enumeration District: 3 Civil Parish: Rathven Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island: - Folio: 9 Page: 5 Address: Burnside Of Badenhanan Surname First name(s) Sex Age Occupation Where Born Remarks CURRIE Alexr M 35 Farmer Banffshire CURRIE Elizabeth F 45 Outside Census County (1841) CURRIE Elizabeth F 10 Banffshire CURRIE Alexr M 8 Banffshire CURRIE Margret F 5 Banffshire CURRIE John M 3 Banffshire Page: 9/6 CURRIE Janet F 5m Banffshire [Now spelled as Badenhannen (must be near OS 347300,862050 abt 5km SE of Rathven)]
1851 Census Piece: SCT1851/164 Place: Rathven -Banffshire Enumeration District: 15 Civil Parish: Rathven Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island: Rathven Folio: 123 Page: 7 Schedule: 29 Address: Burnside Surname First name(s) Rel Status Sex Age Occupation Where Born Remarks CURRIE Alexander Head M M 49 Crofter Banffshire - Rathven CURRIE Elisabeth Wife M F 54 Morayshire - Dallas CURRIE George Son U M 25 Slater Banffshire - Rathven CURRIE Robert Son U M 23 Slater Banffshire - Cullen CURRIE Elisabeth Daur U F 20 House Servant Banffshire - Cullen CURRIE Margaret Daur U F 15 Scholar Banffshire - Rathven Page: 123/8 CURRIE Janet Daur U F 14 Scholar Banffshire - Rathven CURRIE John Son - M 13 Scholar Banffshire - Rathven DAY Margaret Ma-Law W F 83 Formerly Crofters Wife Banffshire - Boharm CLARK Ellen Grndau - F 7m Banffshire - Rathven
1861 Census Piece: SCT1861/164 Place: Rathven -Banffshire Enumeration District: 2 Civil Parish: Rathven Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island: - Folio: 0 Page: 5 Schedule: 18 Address: Burnside Surname First name(s) Rel Status Sex Age Occupation Where Born Remarks CURRIE Alexr Head M M 56 Crofter 15 Ac Banffshire - Rathven CURRIE Elizabeth Wife M F 61 Crofter's Wife Morayshire - Dallas CURRIE John Son U M 22 Ag Lab Banffshire - Rathven CURRIE Margret Dau U F 23 Domestic Servnt Banffshire - Rathven CURRIE Jessie Dau U F 20 Banffshire - Rathven CLARKE Helen Grndau U F 10 Scholar Banffshire - Rathven
I don't know whether this duplicates info you've already got - I'm not prepared to wade thru 6 threads to find out, but I'd done the lookups before I found there were all those other threads, so you might as well have it as a parting gift.
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