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Lawson family of Wharfedale, Leeds

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John

John Report 11 Nov 2014 11:57

My great uncle Arthur Lawson b.1884, Horsforth, Leeds died in WW1 at France and Flanders in 1918. He married my grandfather's sister, Minnie Annal in 1906. They had 2 daughters: Elsie Lawson 1907 - 1960 and Mabel Lawson b.1914.

I have found very few military records and wonder please if anyone can do better?

However, I am particularly keen to trace records of Mabel Lawson. Mabel had learning disability from birth and, according to records, was sent age 16, to Sandlebridge Boarding School/Mary Dendy Hospital, Cheshire on 11 November 1929 until 27 February 1959 at which point she became an 'informal' patient. I cannot trace a record of her death. If she were still living she would be 100 yrs old so unlikely. I don't believe Mabel had a middle name. Nothing comes up for me in BDM's.

The Mary Dendy Hospital, Cheshire closed in 1989. I believe it may have been replaced by a new mental health unit called Soss Moss, possibly on the same site.

Would appreciate any help offered. Many thanks.
John

Potty

Potty Report 11 Nov 2014 12:44

Do you have this?

UK, Soldiers Died in the Great War, 1914-1919
Residence:Horsforth, Leeds
Death Date:1 Nov 1918
Death Place:France and Flanders
Enlistment Place:Leeds
Rank:Private
Regiment:Prince of Wales's Own (West Yorkshire) Regiment
Battalion:1st 5th Battalion
Regimental Number:204280

Type of Casualty:
Killed in action

Theatre of War:
Western European Theatre

Potty

Potty Report 11 Nov 2014 12:47

Possible for Mabel's death:

England & Wales, Death Index, 1916-2007?
Death, Burial, Cemetery & Obituaries

Name: Mabel Lawson
Birth: 19 Jul 1914
Death: Mar 2000 - North Yorkshire, North Yorkshire, England

Jacqueline

Jacqueline Report 11 Nov 2014 16:45

Mabel's birth was registered in first Qtr 1914

She was not 16 in 1929

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 11 Nov 2014 18:09

Name: Mabel Lawson
Event Type: Birth Registration
Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar
Registration Year: 1914
Registration District: Wharfedale
County: Yorkshire
Event Place: Wharfedale, Yorkshire, England
Mother's Maiden Name (not available before 1911 Q3): Annal
Volume: 9A
Page: 202
Line Number: 78

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 11 Nov 2014 18:10

Name: Mabel Lawson
Event Type: Death Registration
Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar
Registration Year: 2000
Registration District: North Yorkshire
County: Yorkshire
Event Place: North Yorkshire, Yorkshire, England
Birth Date (available after June quarter 1969): 19 Jul 1914
Volume: 6501I
Page: I2

John

John Report 11 Nov 2014 21:55

Many thanks Potty & Ann. Much appreciated.
I have Arthur Lawson details. Hoping for documents if poss but cannot find. I also saw the Mabel death in North Yorks. The birth date relating to this death doesn't match up to 1st qtr of 1914 when she was born. Also I doubt that she would move to North Yorkshire from a closing down psychiatric hospital unless they shipped her there. However it is the closest record I can see and errors occur ...
Thanks again.
John

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 12 Nov 2014 00:29

John



I have to say that I have not yet ever found any service records for a serviceman who died in WW1

I find the death record, but not the service record


Others have found both, I have not


But you do have to remember that only about 30% of the records for WW1 servicemen survived WW2, and most of the surviving records are badly damaged, and incomplete


so it really is a matter of good luck if you find anything.

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 12 Nov 2014 00:32

You know the regiment that Arthur was in ........... from Potty's post above


Regiment:Prince of Wales's Own (West Yorkshire) Regiment
Battalion:1st 5th Battalion
Regimental Number:204280



Google that regiment, and see if there is anything on the internet



or find a contact address, and write to them

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 12 Nov 2014 00:43

had you found his medal records??


.
British Army WWI Medal Rolls Index Cards, 1914-1920

Name: Arthur Lawson
Regiment or Corps: Prince of Wales's Own (West Yorkshire) Regiment
Regimental Number: 204280
Other Records:

from image:-

He was awarded the Victory and the British Medals


This is the information on those 2 medals ..................

Allied Victory Medal (Victory Medal) was awarded for service in any operational theater between 5 August 1914 and 11 November 1918. It was issued to individuals who received the 1914 and 1914-15 Stars and to most individuals who were issued the British War Medal. The medal was also awarded for service in Russia (1919-1920) and post-war mine clearance in the North Sea (1918-1919).


British War Medal was awarded to both servicemen and civilians that either served in a theater of war, or rendered service overseas between 5 August 1914 and 11 November 1918. It was also awarded for service in Russia, and post-war mine clearance in the Baltic, the Black Sea, and the Caspian Sea between 1919 and 1920.

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 12 Nov 2014 00:48

http://www.pwoyorkshire.co.uk/




http://www.pwoyorkshire.co.uk/images/stories/west%20yorkshire%20regiment%201914-1918.pdf



John

John Report 12 Nov 2014 07:48

Hi SylviainCanada,
Thank you for the advice and also for the links which I will check out. I am especially thrilled and proud to learn about his medals. Your help is very much appreciated.
John