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1861 Census for Leominster please

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SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 14 Nov 2014 01:53

Frances


did you remember that ages of all people over the age of 15 on the 1841 Census were usually rounded DOWN to the nearest 5???


This means there can be a discrepancy of as much as 4 years between the 1841 and subsequent censuses

Frances

Frances Report 13 Nov 2014 17:53

Thanks Londonbelle but the ages seem to be too far from the 1841

Frances

Frances Report 13 Nov 2014 17:50

Thank you safc, this seems to conflict with the 1841 census which gives Janes age as 4 and her brother, George, as 10. Could there possibly be 2 Thomas Lucas and Elizabeth so close together?
Sorry for the delay in reading your post but I am suffering internet connection problems.

LondonBelle

LondonBelle Report 13 Nov 2014 17:48

1851 census

Name: Thomas Lucas
Age: 42
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1809
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Elizabeth Lucas
Gender: Male
Where born: Amyestry, Herefordshire, England
Civil Parish: Puddlestone
County/Island: Herefordshire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability:

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Registration district: Leominster
Sub-registration district: Leominster
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 70
Piece: 1981
Folio: 21
Page Number: 17
Household Members:
Name Age
Thomas Lucas 42 occ Farming Baliff
Elizabeth Lucas 32
Maria Davies 26 Visitor

Perhaps Maria is Elizabeth's sister?

If so, this would fit in with Elizabeth Davies being Jane's Mother

safc

safc Report 13 Nov 2014 16:28

????


Jane Lucas
England Births and Christenings
Name: Jane Lucas
Gender: Female
Christening Date: 16 Apr 1837
Christening Place: PRIMITIVE METHODIST,CWM CIRCUIT,HEREFORD,ENGLAND
Birth Date: 26 Mar 1831
Father's Name: Thomas Lucas
Mother's Name: Elizabeth Davies
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C06564-1 , System Origin: England-ODM , GS Film number: 0595460 (RG4 2548)

Frances

Frances Report 13 Nov 2014 15:28

The last entry on my thread is the 1841 census for George Lucas which gives his parents Thomas and Elizabeth. Can anybody see this couple in 1851 please to give me a better chance of finding them getting married? Family Search has thrown up nothing so far but perhaps I am looking in the wrong place...?

Many thanks,
Frances

Frances

Frances Report 12 Nov 2014 09:19

Thank you Andy, I had been trying to find this family by births in FamilySearch but with no success.

Andrew

Andrew Report 10 Nov 2014 17:47

This should be Janes father George in 1841 with his parents and siblings


1841 England Census
about George Lucas

Name:George Lucas
Age:10
Estimated Birth Year:abt 1831
Gender:Male
Where born:Herefordshire, England
Civil Parish:Leominster
Hundred:Wolphy
County/Island:
Herefordshire
Country:England
Street address:
Occupation:
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Registration district:Leominster
Sub-registration district:Bodenham
Neighbors:
View others on page
Piece:430
Book:9
Folio:6
Page Number:7
Household Members:
Name
Age


Thomas Lucas 37 Ag Lab.
Elizabeth Lucas 42
George Lucas 10
Elizabeth Lucas 7
Jane Lucas 4


Andy

safc

safc Report 10 Nov 2014 16:56


1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
High Street, Sherburn, Tadcaster, Yorkshire, England

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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Arthur Drew Head Married Male 35 1856 Groom & Gardener Monkland, Herefordshire, England
Transcription
Jane Drew Wife Married Female 32 1859 - Leominster, Herefordshire, England
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Fanny Drew Daughter - Female 12 1879 Scholar Leominster, Herefordshire, England
Transcription
Lilly Drew Daughter - Female 11 1880 Scholar Wold Newton, Lincolnshire, England
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Constance Drew Daughter - Female 9 1882 Scholar Naburn, Yorkshire, England
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Renneth Drew Son - Male 8 1883 Scholar York, Yorkshire, England
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Ann Jane Drew Daughter - Female 6 1885 Scholar Monkland, Herefordshire, England
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Elizabeth Drew Daughter - Female 4 1887 Scholar Sherburn, Yorkshire, England
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Arthur Drew Son - Male 1 1890 - Sherburn, Yorkshire, England

Frances

Frances Report 10 Nov 2014 16:54

Obviously you all type faster than me and now there is so much more.
I have got to this point from the Drew marriage and subsequent children, born all over the place......

Thanks again.

Frances

Frances Report 10 Nov 2014 16:45

Thank you Andrew, Jacqueline and safc, that has all moved me on a fair bit and now needs adding to the tree.

Jacqueline

Jacqueline Report 10 Nov 2014 16:45


Jane Lucas
England and Wales, Marriage Registration Index
Name: Jane Lucas
Event Type: Marriage
Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun
Registration Year: 1878
Registration District: Leominster
County: Herefordshire
Event Place: Leominster, Herefordshire, England
Volume: 6A
Page: 969
Line Number: 167

Jane Lucas probably married one of the following people
Name: Arthur Drew

You should find her in 1881 which is FREE on familysearch, and you could also have looked at that site for the FULL 1871

Andrew

Andrew Report 10 Nov 2014 16:44

Possible parents marriage

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page

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Marriages Jun 1852 (>99%)
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Davis Maria Leominster 6a 895
Lucas George Leominster 6a 895

Andy

Andrew

Andrew Report 10 Nov 2014 16:42


1871 England Census
about George Lucas



Name:George Lucas
Age:39
Estimated Birth Year:abt 1832
Relation:Head
Spouse's Name:Mary Lucas
Gender:Male
Where born:New Radnor, Radnorshire, Wales
Civil Parish:Monkland
Ecclesiastical parish:Monkland
Town:Monkland
County/Island:Herefordshire
Country:England
Registration district:Leominster
Sub-registration district:Bodenham
ED, institution, or vessel:9
Household schedule number:10
Piece:2717
Folio:58
Page Number:2
Household Members:
Name
Age


George Lucas 39
Mary Lucas 44
Mary Lucas 18
Clara Lucas 16
Henry G Lucas 14
Jane Lucas 12
James Lucas 11
Thomas J Lucas 8
Ellen Lucas 4
Anne M Lucas 1


Andy

safc

safc Report 10 Nov 2014 16:37


1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Green Lane, Leominster, Herefordshire, England

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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
George Lucas Head Of Family Married Male 30 1831 Carpenter Kinsham, Herefordshire, England
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Maria Lucas Wife Married Female 35 1826 Carpenters Wife Leominster, Herefordshire, England
Transcription
Mary Lucas Daughter Unmarried Female 8 1853 - Herefordshire, England
Transcription
Charles Lucas Son Unmarried Male 6 1855 - Leominster, Herefordshire, England
Transcription
Henry Lucas Son Unmarried Male 4 1857 - Leominster, Herefordshire, England
Transcription
Jane Lucas Daughter Unmarried Female 3 1858 - Leominster, Herefordshire, England
Transcription
James Lucas Son Unmarried Male 1 1860 - Leominster, Herefordshire, England

Jacqueline

Jacqueline Report 10 Nov 2014 16:37

1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
The Common, Monkland, Leominster, Herefordshire, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
George Lucas Head - Male 39 1832 - Radnorshire, Wales Transcription
Mary Lucas Wife - Female 44 1827 - Herefordshire, England Transcription
Mary Lucas Daughter - Female 18 1853 - Herefordshire, England Transcription
Clara Lucas Daughter - Female 16 1855 - Herefordshire, England Transcription
Henry G Lucas Son - Male 14 1857 - Herefordshire, England Transcription
Jane Lucas Daughter - Female 12 1859 - Herefordshire, England Transcription
James Lucas Son - Male 11 1860 - Herefordshire, England Transcription
Thomas J Lucas Son - Male 8 1863 - Herefordshire, England Transcription
Ellen Lucas Daughter - Female 4 1867 - Herefordshire, England Transcription
Anne M Lucas Daughter - Female 1 1870 - Herefordshire, England

Jacqueline

Jacqueline Report 10 Nov 2014 16:36

1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Green Lane, Leominster, Herefordshire, England


First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
George Lucas Head Of Family Married Male 30 1831 Carpenter Kinsham, Herefordshire, England Transcription
Maria Lucas Wife Married Female 35 1826 Carpenters Wife Leominster, Herefordshire, England Transcription
Mary Lucas Daughter Unmarried Female 8 1853 - Herefordshire, England Transcription
Charles Lucas Son Unmarried Male 6 1855 - Leominster, Herefordshire, England Transcription
Henry Lucas Son Unmarried Male 4 1857 - Leominster, Herefordshire, England Transcription
Jane Lucas Daughter Unmarried Female 3 1858 - Leominster, Herefordshire, England Transcription
James Lucas Son Unmarried Male 1 1860 - Leominster, Herefordshire, England Transcription

Andrew

Andrew Report 10 Nov 2014 16:34


1861 England Census
about Jane Lucas

Name:Jane Lucas
Age:3
Estimated Birth Year:1858
Relation:Daughter
Father's Name:George Lucas
Mother's name:Maria Lucas
Gender:Female
Where born:Leominster, Herefordshire, England
Civil Parish:Leominster
Ecclesiastical parish:Hereford
Town:Leominster
County/Island:Herefordshire
Country:England
Street address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
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Registration district:Leominster
Sub-registration district:Leominster
ED, institution, or vessel:11
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number:4
Piece:1831
Folio:87
Page Number:1
Household Members:
Name
Age


George Lucas 30 Carpenter
Maria Lucas 35
Mary Lucas 8
Charles Lucas 6
Henry Lucas 4
Jane Lucas 3
James Lucas 1


Andy

Frances

Frances Report 10 Nov 2014 16:33

Hi all, I am trying to do research for a friend but all the sites I used to use, with success, seem to have changed!
I have found Jane Lucas in FreeBMD born in 1858 in Leominster, and I would like to see if she was with family in 1861. Can anybody see anything to match in 1861 please?

Many thanks,
Frances