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Helen
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1 Nov 2014 23:53 |
Please help, I am looking to discover parents of Kathleen Hinds born 1894 Easington, Durham. She seems to be in 1901 in St Mary's Home which appears to be run by nuns and have 123 girls - an orphanage? She is aged 7 and listed with a sister called Winifred aged 8, both sirnames spelt "Hines"..... this is the only Kathleen Hinds from Durham I can find so presume must be her. (Birth on 1901 is Seaham Harbour which is in Easington). So - I cannot find a birth of this sister, any siblings, deaths of any parents etc etc. Kathleen married William Burns in 1914.
So if anybody has any ideas or info please help!
Thankyou
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patchem
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2 Nov 2014 00:04 |
Welcome to the boards, Helen.
If you get her marriage certificate it may give a father for her.
Have you applied for it?
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Eringobragh1916
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2 Nov 2014 00:25 |
Helen have you checked this one out....
Kathleen Hinds England and Wales Census, 1901 Name: Kathleen Hinds Event Type: Census Event Date: 31 Mar 1901 Age: 11 Relationship to Head of Household: Daughter Birthplace: Cornsay, Durham Schedule Type: Household Registration District: Lanchester Sub-District: Lanchester Ecclesiastical Parish: Hamsteels St John The Baptist Civil Parish: Cornsay District/Parish/County: Durham
1891..."Catherine" Hinds....same district as above...also a Patrick/John/Robert Hinds (bros). in family...You need to check it out on the 1891 Census sorry but I don't have access to do this for you...
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brummiejan
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2 Nov 2014 00:26 |
Or her birth cert maybe?
Births Mar 1894 (>99%) Hinds Kathleen Easington 10a 454
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SylviaInCanada
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2 Nov 2014 00:34 |
British Army WWI Service Records, 1914-1920 about Kathleen Hinds
Name: Kathleen Hinds Gender: Female Marriage Date: 4 Jul 1914 Marriage Place: Gateshead Residence Place: 3 Chivet View, Whickham Durham Document Year: 1915 Relationship to Soldier: Spouse Form Title: Descriptive Report Enlistment Other Records: Family Members: Name Relation to Soldier William Burns Self (Head) Kathleen Hinds Spouse Robert Burns Child
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Helen
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2 Nov 2014 00:36 |
Hello, thanks for these - that's the only birth I found too so went from that to being 7 in the 1901 census - however may have to check out the new census details above....its a new line I am researching so early days and haven't applied for any certificates yet.
Thank you!
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Helen
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2 Nov 2014 00:38 |
And I have not seen the WWI records, very helpful - that's her!
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SylviaInCanada
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2 Nov 2014 00:40 |
The Kathleen in the orphanage in 1901, born in Seaham Harbour seems to be a different girl
England and Wales Census, 1901
Name: Kathleen Hines Event Type: Census Event Date: 31 Mar 1901 Age: 7 Birthplace: Seaham Harbour, Durham Schedule Type: Institution Registration District: Durham Sub-District: St Oswald Ecclesiastical Parish: St Andrews Tudhoe Grange Civil Parish: Tudhoe District/Parish/County: Durham
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Eringobragh1916
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2 Nov 2014 01:06 |
Only 1 child's Birth.....
Births Mar 1915 (>99%)
Burns Robert Hinds Gateshead 10a 2236
Did Willie survive the War...??
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Helen
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2 Nov 2014 01:49 |
He did! They had George in 1921, James in 1923 and Kathleen in 1927. It appears my Kathleen Hinds was christened Mary Kathleen which tripped me up, should have thought really! Although she died and William Burns re-married and had more children those I am now struggling with! (there was definately a Colin....).....
Thanks again
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SylviaInCanada
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2 Nov 2014 02:54 |
Her marriage certificate would tell us how old she was in 1914 ........ and thus give a better idea of where to look
There is this birth registration of a Mary Kathleen, but born in 1900, registered in Lanchester
Births Mar 1890 (>99%) Hinds Mary Kathleen Lanchester 10a 332
I don't know County Durham very well ........ so have no idea as to whether this is close to the correct area or not
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SylviaInCanada
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2 Nov 2014 03:03 |
a Public Family Tree on ancestry has the following ......... although of course it may not be accurate because she doesn't seem to bought any certificates or anyhting
I throw it in here for what it is worth.
She does not show any children for the marriage.
Enids Family Tree August 2014 Owner: Enid212
Mary Kathleen HINDS Birth MAR 1890 in Cornsay Colliery, Durham, England Death DEC 1929 in Hemsworth District, West Yorkshire, England
Patrick HINDS 1866 – 1906
Frances Annie PESCOD 1868 – 1923
Siblings
John HINDS 1887 – 1906
Patrick Renison HINDS 1888 – 1916
Robert HINDS 1891 – 1963
Thomas HINDS 1894 – 1926
Margaret HINDS 1896 – 1939
Edith HINDS 1904 – 1938
Private
Private
Half siblings
Lilian SHIELDS 1910 – 1911
Marriage to William BURNS 1914 Sep — Age: 24 Gateshead District, Durham, England
1891 Census — Age: 1 107 Liddel Street, Cornsay Colliery, Durham, England
1901 Census — Age: 11 271 Union Square, Cornsay Colliery, Durham, England
1911 Census — Age: 21 The Hole, Marley Hill, Whickham, Durham, England
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SylviaInCanada
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2 Nov 2014 03:17 |
for your perusal and careful study :-)
this seems to be what "Enid" is accepting as the 1891 Census
1891 Census
Name: Catherine Hinds Age: 1 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1890 Relation: Daughter Father's Name: Patrick Hinds Mother's name: Francis Hinds Gender: Female Where born: Cornsay, Durham, England Civil Parish: Cornsay Ecclesiastical parish: Hamsteels St John Town: Cornsay Colliery County/Island: Durham Country: England
Registration district: Lanchester Sub registration district: Lanchester ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Piece: 4093 Folio: 28 Page Number: 21
Patrick Hinds 26 b.ca 1865, Cumberland, Coal Miner Francis Hinds 23 b.ca 1868, Willington, Durham John Hinds 4 Patrick Hinds 3 Catherine Hinds 1 Robert Hinds 1/12 Sarah A Philips 13 Domestic Servant
Address:- 107 Liddell Street
and for the 1901
1901 Census
Name: Kathleen Hinds Age: 11 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1890 Relation to Head: Daughter Gender: Female Father: Patrick Hinds Mother: Frances Hinds Birth Place: Cornsay, Durham, England Civil Parish: Cornsay Ecclesiastical parish: Hamsteels St John the Baptist Town: Cornsay County/Island: Durham Country: England
Registration district: Lanchester Sub-registration district: Lanchester ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Piece: 4671 Folio: 41 Page Number: 51 Household schedule number: 273
Patrick Hinds 35 b.ca 1866, Brancastle, Durham, Coal Miner Frances Hinds 33 b.ca 1868, Willington, Durham Patrick Hinds 13 Kathleen Hinds 11 George E Hinds 8 Thomas Hinds 6 Margaret Hinds 4
Address:- 271 Union Square
and this seems to be her in 1911
1911 Census
Name: Mary Kathleen Hinds Age in 1911: 21 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1890 Relation to Head: Visitor Gender: Female Birth Place: Cornsay Colliery Durham Civil Parish: Whickham County/Island: Durham Country: England Street address: Marley Hill Valley Swalwell R S O Marital Status: Single Registration district: Gateshead Registration District Number: 557 Sub-registration district: Whickham ED, institution, or vessel: 10 Piece: 30505
Petter Hinds 52 b.ca 1859, Allstaine Moors, Cumberland, Coal Miner (Hewer) Mary Ann Hinds 50 b.ca 1861, Anles head, Northumberland Robert Hinds 17 b.ca 1894, Marley Hill Hole, Durham, Miner (Pony Driver below ground) Mary Kathleen Hinds 21
over to you ................... it might or might not be your lassie
I think you need to get that marriage certificate .............. find out how old she is, and who she says is her father
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2 Nov 2014 03:32 |
British Army WWI Service Records, 1914-1920 about William Burns
Name: William Burns Gender: Male Birth Date: abt 1888 Age at Enlistment: 27 Marriage Date: 4 Jul 1914 Marriage Place: Gateshead Residence Place: 3 Chivet View, Whickham Durham Document Year: 1915 Regimental Number: 102686 Regiment Name: Royal Engineers Number of Images: 16 Form Title: Short Service Attestation Other Records: Search for 'William Burns' in other WWI collections
Family Members: Name Relation to Soldier William Burns Self (Head) Kathleen Hinds Spouse Robert Burns Child
Information on William from the records
Miner Height 5' 0"
Certified as a Tunneller after doing Basic Training
Was in and out of trouble ....... petty theft, overstaying leave, etc
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Eringobragh1916
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2 Nov 2014 08:40 |
Patrick Hinds married Frances Ann Pescod June qtr.1887 Registered Lanchester 104a.409
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Eringobragh1916
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2 Nov 2014 09:00 |
Helen.... Have you seen this ?.....(2006/2010)
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=154867.0
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Eringobragh1916
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2 Nov 2014 09:10 |
HINDS, PATRICK RENISON
Rank:PrivateService No:240488 Date of Death:05/07/1916Age:26 Regiment/Service:King's Own Yorkshire Light Infantry 1st/5th Bn. Panel Reference:Pier and Face 11 C and 12 A.Memorial:THIEPVAL
MEMORIALAdditional Information:Son of the late Patrick Hinds; husband of Bridget E. Hinds, of 55 Victor St., Westfield Rd., South Elmsall Pontefract.
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