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24 Oct 2014 20:31 |
Hi Gins Will send for certificate thanks Regards Anthony
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24 Oct 2014 18:53 |
Hi
OK, the birth certificate will give you his exact DOB which may well help in tracing him
It's £9.25 but may well be worth it
You can order from here http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/default.asp
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24 Oct 2014 18:24 |
Hi Gins Ernest was born in June 1889 sorry i dont have what day. I dont know that he went Canada i am just trying to find out where and when he died I come up against a brick wall in England Best Regards Anthony
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24 Oct 2014 16:19 |
Anthony
Do you have Ernest' full DOB, it might help trace him?
Edit: I wonder if he died at sea on the journey over to Canada, or he never went to Canada?
What makes you think he did?
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24 Oct 2014 15:56 |
Hi mgn Gins Jacqueline Mgn sorry that Ernest is not my uncle thanks for trying. Gins Jacqueline thanks for all the info it is correct I know what happend to the rest of the family its Ernest i cant get the bottom of once again thanks for trying Best regards Anthony
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24 Oct 2014 15:07 |
1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Silk Mill Lane, Winchcombe, Winchcomb, Gloucestershire, England
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place Raymond Mills Head Married Male 41 1860 Stone Mason Winchcombe, Gloucestershire, England Transcription Annie Mills Wife Married Female 37 1864 - Toddington, Gloucestershire, England Transcription Raymond Mills Son Single Male 13 1888 - Stanley Pontlarge, Gloucestershire, England Transcription Ernest Mills Son - Male 11 1890 - Winchcombe, Gloucestershire, England Transcription Henry Mills Son - Male 10 1891 - Winchcombe, Gloucestershire, England Transcription Florence Mills Daughter - Female 7 1894 - Winchcombe, Gloucestershire, England Transcription Edward Mills Son - Male 5 1896 - Winchcombe, Gloucestershire, England
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24 Oct 2014 15:06 |
Ernest was born in 1889.....not in 1888, making him no more than 22 in 1911
In 1911, his occupation was Baker's Assistant
Annie had given birth to 11, only 6 of whom survived, and all but one are on the 1911 with her
Two children's names crossed out are Henry and Gertrude (presumably deceased)
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24 Oct 2014 14:29 |
Those passenger records are both after June 1911 so Ernest wouldn't be on, that's if we have the correct immigration record!
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24 Oct 2014 13:55 |
http://data2.archives.ca/e/e143/e003573300.jpg [E A Mills - S(ingle) - Labourer - headed for Toronto to join brother]
Anyone can search 1921 (and see images), but only via: http://search.ancestry.ca/search/db.aspx?dbid=8991
I think the only feasible hit is: 1921 Census of Canada about Ernest Mills Name: Ernest Mills Gender: Male Marital Status: Married Age: 34 Birth Year: abt 1887 Birth Place: England Relation to Head of House: Head Spouse's Name: Rose Elsie Mills Father Birth Place: England Mother Birth Place: England Year of Immigration: 1909 Racial or Tribal Origin: English Province or Territory: Ontario District: Wentworth District Number: 141 Sub-District: Barton (Township) Sub-District Number: 15 City, Town or Village: Barton Township Street or Township: 6 Ben Lomond Ave Municipality: Barton Occupation: Machine Operator Income: 1500 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Ernest Mills 34 Rose Elsie Mills 31 Arthur Elliott Mills 2
[Barton Twp lies to the S of Burlington Bay/Hamilton Harbour, and includes the City of Hamilton ON]
How many live births did Annie say she'd had by 1911, and how many are still living? I'm wondering which bro EA is going to join - could even be a bro-in-law, I suppose. UK census was 2/4/1911 - Canada was 1st June 1911/16/21, so the brother might be on both 1911s. There's 2556 Mills's in ON 1911, via a search at: http://automatedgenealogy.com/census11/index.jsp
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24 Oct 2014 10:22 |
Hi Chris and Gins thats the one Gins but i still dont know if it is my uncle thanks for info Regards Anthony
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Chris Ho :)
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24 Oct 2014 08:58 |
(apologies Gins, just edited above, after finding!, looks to be the one)
Chris :)
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24 Oct 2014 08:56 |
This is the one
UK, Outward Passenger Lists, 1890-1960
Name:Ernest A Wills <<Farm labourer
Gender:Male
Age:23
Birth Date:abt 1888
Departure Date:26 Aug 1911
Port of Departure:Bristol, England
Destination Port:Quebec, Canada
Ship Name:Royal Edward
Shipping line:Royal Line
Official Number: 125656
Master:William Roberts
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Chris Ho :)
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24 Oct 2014 08:49 |
All Canadian Passenger Lists, 1865-1935 (Ancestry)
Ed Mills abt 1888 2 Sep 1911 Quebec, Canada Avonmouth, England Royal Edward
(arrives as above, Ea on image. To Join Brother, Destination Toronto, Trade Labourer)
Chris :)
edits
All UK, Outward Passenger Lists, 1890-1960 (Ancestry)
Ernest A Wills 23 abt 1888 26 Aug 1911 Bristol, England Quebec, Canada
(as Mills Find My Past. Ticket No. 11001)
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Anthony
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24 Oct 2014 08:34 |
Hi Look at Passenger list leaving UK 1890-1960 you will see Ernest A Mills Age 23 Departure year 1911 the 8 month on the 26th day the ship was the Royal Edward Bound for Quebec OK
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24 Oct 2014 05:01 |
Anthony
did you not take in what Mike posted earlier .................
you made no comment about it!
Mike * Report 23 Oct 2014 16:37
The boat sailed 1912 not 1911
This Ernest was a child travelling with his mother Gertrude -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Name: Ernest Mills
Departure Date:26 Jun 1912
Port of Departure:Bristol, England
Destination Port:Quebec, Canada
Ship Name:Royal Edward
Shipping line:Royal Line
Official Number:125656
Master:William Roberts
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23 Oct 2014 18:04 |
Anthony - presumably you already have this, but just for ref:
Births Dec 1887 (>99%) Mills Raymond William Winchcomb 6a 390 Births Jun 1889 (>99%) Mills Ernest Alfred Winchcomb 6a 406 Births Sep 1890 (>99%) Mills Henry Winchcomb 6a 384 Births Dec 1892 (>99%) Mills Albert John Cheltenham 6a 383 Births Mar 1892 (>99%) Mills Frederick Winchcomb 6a 380 Births Dec 1894 (>99%) ************** Mills Arthur Winchcomb 6a 373 Births Mar 1896 (>99%) Mills Albert Edward Winchcomb 6a 368 Births Jun 1897 (>99%) Mills Olive Gertrude Winchcomb 6a 364 Births Sep 1898 (>99%) Mills Elizabeth Emma Winchcomb 6a 385 Births Dec 1899 (>99%) ******************** Mills Hubert Frank Winchcomb 6a 426 Births Mar 1902 (>99%) MILLS Harold Edgar Winchcomb 6a 419
******************** EDIT restored 2 accidentally deleted lines
Using http://ww3.gloucestershire.gov.uk/bmd/
Groom Surname Groom Forename Bride Surname Bride Forename District Parish Building Year Register Entry MILLS Raymond BALLINGER Annie Cheltenham Stanley Pontlarge Parish Church 1887 1 20
Child Surname Child Forename Father Surname Mother Surname Mother's Former Name Year District Office Register Entry MILLS Raymond W MILLS MILLS BALLINGER 1887 Cheltenham Winchcombe, Cleeve 13 65 MILLS Ernest A MILLS MILLS BALLENGER 1889 Cheltenham Winchcombe, Guiting 19 116 MILLS Henry MILLS MILLS BALLENGER 1890 Cheltenham Winchcombe, Guiting 19 285 MILLS Albert J MILLS MILLS BALLINGER 1892 Cheltenham Cheltenham, Cheltenham 112 44 Additional Entries MILLS Frederick MILLS MILLS BALLANGER 1892 Cheltenham Winchcombe, Guiting 20 39 MILLS Arthur MILLS MILLS BALLENGER 1894 Cheltenham Winchcombe, Guiting 20 422 MILLS Albert E MILLS MILLS BALLINGER 1896 Cheltenham Winchcombe, Guiting 21 123 MILLS Olive G MILLS MILLS BALLINGER 1897 Cheltenham Winchcombe, Guiting 21 332 MILLS Elizabeth E MILLS MILLS BALLINGER 1898 Cheltenham Winchcombe, Guiting 22 8 MILLS Hubert F MILLS MILLS BALLINGER 1899 Cheltenham Winchcombe, Guiting 22 189 MILLS Harold E MILLS MILLS BALLINGER 1902 Cheltenham Winchcombe, Guiting 22 476
Additional entries bit MILLS Albert J MILLS MILLS BALLINGER 1892 Cheltenham Cheltenham, Cheltenham 112 44 MILLS Albert J MILLS MILLS MARMENT 1892 Cheltenham Cheltenham, Cheltenham 112 44
Surname Given Names Age Year Died District Register Entry MILLS Henry 14 1905 Winchcombe, Guiting 14 390 MILLS Frederick 1 1893 Winchcombe, Guiting 12 395 MILLS Arthur 1 1895 Winchcombe, Guiting 13 104 MILLS Elizabeth Emma 1 1900 Winchcombe, Guiting 13 462 MILLS Hubert Frank 1 1901 Winchcombe, Guiting 14 33
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23 Oct 2014 18:01 |
Did he die in WW1 ?
Name: Ernest Mills
Birth Place: Stroud
Death Date: 23 Jul 1916
Death Place: France and Flanders
Enlistment Place: Gloucester
Rank: Private
Regiment: Gloucestershire Regiment
Battalion: 1st 5th Battalion (Territorial)
Regimental Number: 2856
Type of Casualty: Killed in action
Theatre of War: Western European Theatre
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Anthony
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23 Oct 2014 16:54 |
Hi Mike Thanks for reply yes mike thats my family in 1911 my dad was Harold mills. I cant find out what happend to his brother Ernest thanks for the info Regards Anthony
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23 Oct 2014 16:37 |
The boat sailed 1912 not 1911
This Ernest was a child travelling with his mother Gertrude -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Name: Ernest Mills
Departure Date:26 Jun 1912
Port of Departure:Bristol, England
Destination Port:Quebec, Canada
Ship Name:Royal Edward
Shipping line:Royal Line
Official Number:125656
Master:William Roberts
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23 Oct 2014 16:31 |
Is this your dad's family in 1911 ?
Name: Ernest Mills
Age in 1911:22
Estimated Birth Year:abt 1889
Relation to Head:Son
Birth Place:Winchcombe, Gloucestershire Civil Parish:Winchcombe County/Island:Gloucestershire
Street address:Silk Mill Lane, Winchcombe, Gloucestershire
Marital Status:Single
Occupation:Baker Assistant
Raymond Mills 51 Annie Mills 48 Reginal Mills 24 Ernest Mills 22 Florence Mills 17 Edward Mills 15 Harold Mills 9
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