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23 Oct 2014 20:19 |
You're welcome Potty x
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Potty
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22 Oct 2014 14:26 |
alviegal, the baptisms you found for me have helped me find William's Army record, which shows that he was born in Worcester - a great surprise for my Irish husband. Again, thank you :-D
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Potty
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21 Oct 2014 14:16 |
Her birth isn't the only record I can't find on GRONI - I have a marriage in 1857 which is on familysearch and Ancestry (Ireland Select Marriages) and Emerald Ancestors but not coming up on GRONI.
The other children seem to have lived to ripe old ages - Clara was 86 when she died and William was still alive in the 1950s.
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21 Oct 2014 13:37 |
What a sad tale, the poor children dying of preventable (nowadays) illnesses and then the mother dying when she was only 27.
Wonder why she's not showing on GRONI :-S :-S
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21 Oct 2014 12:01 |
How sad - the children died within a week of each other, Mary Ann on 14th December and Robert on 21st. Both died of measles and pneumonia.
Although I have found their mother's death on the Irish Deaths Index, nothing is coming up on Groni's site.
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21 Oct 2014 11:30 |
Very many thanks, Alviegal.
I didn't have Robert's death or Mary Ann at all. There was another daughter, Annie who was b 1878 (my husband's grandmother) and Agnes died the following year (1879).
I think I will spend a few pounds on GRONI (Ulster's GRO) site to have a look at the death certs. Will come back with what I find.
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20 Oct 2014 19:35 |
They're on fmp Potty. I've just upgraded to the World Subscription for the year so I think they come with that.
Liz x
GRO Regimental Birth Indices (1761 to 1924) Transcription Print transcription View image Attach to tree First name(s) CLARA Last name WHATMORE Year range 1874 Place KAMPTEE Country INDIA Regiment 44th Foot Record source GRO Regimental Birth Indices (1761 to 1924) Volume 1199 Page 25 Record set British nationals armed forces births 1761-2005
GRO Regimental Birth Indices (1761 to 1924) Transcription Print transcription View image Attach to tree First name(s) WILLIAM J Last name WHATMORE Year range 1873 Place KAMPTEE Country INDIA Regiment 44th Foot Record source GRO Regimental Birth Indices (1761 to 1924) Volume 1199 Page 15 Record set British nationals armed forces births 1761-2005
GRO Regimental Birth Indices (1761 to 1924) Transcription Print transcription View image Attach to tree First name(s) CLARA Last name WHATMORE Year range 1874 Place KAMPTEE Country INDIA Regiment 87th Foot Record source GRO Regimental Birth Indices (1761 to 1924) Volume 1343 Page 17 Record set British nationals armed forces births 1761-2005
GRO Regimental Birth Indices (1761 to 1924) Transcription Print transcription View image Attach to tree First name(s) WILLIAM J Last name WHATMORE Year range 1873 Place KAMPTEE Country INDIA Regiment 87th Foot Record source GRO Regimental Birth Indices (1761 to 1924) Volume 1343 Page 16
Mary A Whatmore born Armagh 1871 is also mentioned twice with the same two regiments. :-S :-S
She appears to die young.
Ireland Deaths 1864 - 1958 Transcription Print transcription Attach to tree First name(s) Mary Ann Last name Whatmore Birth year 1871 Age at death 6 Registered year 1877 Registered quarter/year 1877 Registration district Armagh Volume 16 Page 31 Country Ireland
and another son??
Ireland Deaths 1864 - 1958 Transcription Print transcription Attach to tree First name(s) Robert Last name Whatmore Birth year 1877 Age at death 0 Registered year 1877 Registered quarter/year 1877 Registration district Armagh Volume 16 Page 31 Country Ireland
How sad, losing two little ones in the same year. I wonder what happened to the children? :-( :-(
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Potty
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20 Oct 2014 11:42 |
Thanks, Alviegal, especially for the regiments. Can I ask where you found the records?
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19 Oct 2014 19:58 |
Just a bit more info.
British India Office Ecclesiastical Returns- Births & Baptisms Transcription
First name(s) Clara Last name Whatmore Birth year 1874 Birth date 29 Oct 1874 Baptism year 1874 Father's first name(s) William Father's last name Whatmore Mother's first name(s) Amelia Agnes (reads Annie Agnes) Mother's last name - Place Kamptee Presidency Bengal Archive reference N-1-150 Folio 36
Baptised 5 Nov 1874
He was a sergeant in the 44th Foot. There is also mention of the 87th Foot.
British India Office Ecclesiastical Returns- Births & Baptisms Transcription
First name(s) William John Last name Whatmore Birth year 1873 Birth date 03 Apr 1873 Baptism year 1873 Father's first name(s) William Father's last name Whatmore Mother's first name(s) Agnes Annie Mother's last name - Place Kamptee Presidency Bengal Archive reference N-1-144 Folio 32
Baptised April 14th, 1873
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Potty
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19 Oct 2014 13:52 |
Thanks, Christina - I do have the marriage and the Armagh baptisms.
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Christina(Lancashire)
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19 Oct 2014 13:16 |
That collection is also on FamilySearch https://familysearch.org
And there are also later possible baptisms for children of this couple in Armagh, Ireland, which gives mother's name as Nicholson Whatmore.
Possible marriage? Agnes Nicholson is shown on the same page and volume number.
Wm Whatmore Ireland, Civil Registration Indexes Name: Wm Whatmore Event Type: Marriage Event Date: 1870 Event Place: Armagh, Ireland Registration Quarter and Year: 1870 Registration District: Armagh Volume Number: 6 Page Number: 71 GS Film number: 101251 , Digital Folder Number: 004179384 , Image Number: 00338
Also a death for Agnes Annie Whatmore giving a birth year 1852.
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Potty
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19 Oct 2014 12:48 |
Many thanks, Andrew.
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Andrew
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19 Oct 2014 12:36 |
India, Select Births and Baptisms, 1786-1947 about William John Whatmore
Name: William John Whatmore Gender:Male Birth Date:3 Apr 1873 Birth Place:Bengal, India Baptism Date:14 Apr 1873 Baptism Age:0 Baptism Place:Bengal, India Father:William Whatmore Mother:Agnes Annie FHL Film Number:499050
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19 Oct 2014 12:33 |
India, Select Births and Baptisms, 1786-1947 about William Whatmore
Name:William Whatmore Gender:Male Spouse: Annie Agnes Child: Clara Whatmore
India, Select Births and Baptisms, 1786-1947 about William Whatmore
Name:William Whatmore Gender:Male Spouse: Agnes Annie Child: William John Whatmore
India, Select Births and Baptisms, 1786-1947 about William Whatmore
Name:William Whatmore Gender:Male Spouse: Annie Agnes Child:Clara Whatmore
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Potty
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19 Oct 2014 12:28 |
Could somebody please lookup this record:
India, Select Births and Baptisms, 1786-1947 Record
Birth, Marriage & Death
Name: William Whatmore Spouse: name Children: name surname
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