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Florence Tomlin Edit now Groom's mother

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 16 Oct 2014 11:33

SEAX has the following image. I'm trying to find Florence before her marriage. Its not unknown for cousins to marry cousins, not that she or her father has been featured so far.

St Margarets Barking
22 Jul 1911
Florence Tomlin age 23
Father Thomas Tomlin, a deceased Bus Driver

The address is that of her husband, Albert Tomlin, 113 Kennedy Road Barking

Witnesses Henry Tomlin (who is Albert's father) and Rosina Clara Tomlin.
I've no idea who Rosina Clara Tomlin is - she might be from Florence's side.

Apart from Greater London, there are famly links to Cambridgeshire and Bexleyheath, Kent. The B'H branch has been extensively researched as that's the direct line

Thank you

safc

safc Report 16 Oct 2014 11:37

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1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
66 Portland St Ratcliff, Ratcliff, London, England
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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship to household head Marital condition Gender Age Birth year Birth place Occupation
James William Betts Head Married Male 33 1878 Ipswick Suffolk Brewer
Transcription
Hannah Maria Betts Wife Married Female 44 1867 Mile End London -
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Frederick George Tomlin Son Single Male 19 1892 Mile End London Store Labourer
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Rosina Clara Tomlin Daughter Single Female 18 1893 North Bow London Student
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Thomas Tomlin Son Single Male 14 1897 Homerton London Stores Labourer

safc

safc Report 16 Oct 2014 11:40


1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
33, Eastfield Street, Limehouse, Stepney, London, England
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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Hannah Tomlin Head Widow Female 34 1867 General Shop Keeper Mile End, Middlesex, England
Transcription
Lilian Tomlin Daughter Single Female 14 1887 Shirt Machinist Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England
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Frederick Tomlin Son Single Male 9 1892 - Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England
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Rosina Tomlin Daughter Single Female 7 1894 - Bow, Middlesex, England
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Thomas Tomlin Son Single Male 4 1897 - South Hackney, Middlesex, England
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Rose Belcher Cousin Single Female 27 1874 Shirt Machinist Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England

safc

safc Report 16 Oct 2014 11:43


1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Digby Street, Bethnal Green, London, England
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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Thomas Tomlin Head Married Male 55 1836 Beer House Keeper Newmarket, Cambridgeshire, England
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Hannah M Tomlin Wife Married Female 24 1867 - Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England
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Lillian Tomlin Daughter Single Female 4 1887 Scholar Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England
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Florence Tomlin Daughter Single Female 2 1889 - Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England
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Thomas W Tomlin Son Single Male 1 1890 - Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England
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Rose Betcher Cousin Single Female 17 1874 Barmaid Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 16 Oct 2014 11:50

Thank you. That's interesting, especially the 1891.

I do have Thomas Tomlin in 1881, but with a different wife

Name: Thomas Tomlin
Age: 48
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1833
Relationship to Head: Head
Spouse: Betsey Tomlin
Gender: Male
Where born: Wood Ditton, Cambridgeshire, England
Civil Parish: Bethnal Green
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street address: 20 Barnsley St
Marital Status: Married
Occupation: Beerhouse Keeper
Registration district: Bethnal Green
Sub-registration district: Bethnal Green

Thomas Tomlin 48
Betsey Tomlin 44

Maddie

Maddie Report 16 Oct 2014 11:54


1901 England Census about Florance Tomlin
Name: Florance Tomlin
Age: 12
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1889
Relation to Head: Niece
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Bethnal Green, London, England
Civil Parish: Barking
Ecclesiastical parish: Barking St Margaret
Town: Barking
County/Island: Essex
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: Romford
Sub-registration District: Barkingtown
ED, institution, or vessel: 02
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 1653
Folio: 40
Page Number: 19
Household schedule number: 114
Household Members:
Name Age
Henry Tomlin 56
Elizabeth Tomlin 46
Albert Tomlin 23
Arthur Tomlin 21
John Tomlin 6
Florance Tomlin 12



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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 16 Oct 2014 11:54

What do you think about this?


London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906 about Rosina Clara Tomlin
Name: Rosina Clara Tomlin
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 15 Jan 1893 - b 23 Dec 1892
Father's Name: Thomas Tomlin - Bus Driver
Mother's name: Hannah Maria Tomlin
Parish or Poor Law Union: St Stephen, Tredegar Road
Borough: Tower Hamlets
Register Type: Parish Registers

36 Libra Road

Can we look for a bap for Florence please?

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 16 Oct 2014 11:56

Maddie - I'd forgotten about that 1901! So it is likely to be a cousin-cousin marriage after all!

Henry Tomlin 1844 and Thomas Tomlin 1834 were brothers

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 16 Oct 2014 11:57

Cambridgeshire Burials Transcription
First name(s) Betsy
Last name Tomlin
Birth year 1837
Death year 1884
Age 47
Burial year 1884
Burial date 29 Apr 1884
Residence of London E.
Parish Wood Ditton
County Cambridgeshire
Record set Cambridgeshire Burials


Cambridgeshire Banns Transcription
First name(s) Thomas
Last name Tomlin
Banns year 1853
Banns date 13 Nov 1853


Marriage year 1853
Marriage day 3
Marriage month Dec
Place WOOD DITTON
Groom's first name(s) Thomas (x)
Groom's last name TOMBLIN
Groom's marital status bac
Groom's age 20
Groom's occupation lab
Groom's residence otp
Groom's father's first name(s) John
Groom's father's occupation lab
Bride's first name(s) Betsy (x)
Bride's last name STARLING
Bride's marital status sp
Bride's age 18
Bride's residence otp
Bride's father's first name(s) Stephen
Bride's father's occupation lab


(can see above, both from FMP)

Chris :)

edits

Marriages Dec 1853 (>99%)
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Starling Betsy Newmarket 3b 1200
Tomblin Thomas Newmarket 3b 1200


Baptism (FMP)
First Name THOMAS
Last Name TOMLINE
Year Of Birth 1833
Baptism year 1833
Baptism date 10 Nov 1833
Abode otp
Place WOOD DITTON
Mother's Given Name Mary
Father's First Name John
Father occupation lab


Baptism (FMP)
First Name HENRY
Last Name TOMLIN
Year Of Birth 1844
Baptism year 1844
Baptism date 26 May 1844
Abode otp
Place WOOD DITTON
Mother's Given Name Mary
Father's First Name John
Father occupation lab

Maddie

Maddie Report 16 Oct 2014 12:02


London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906 about Florence Tomlin
Name: Florence Tomlin
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 14 Jun 1888
Father's Name: Thomas Tomlin
Mother's name: Annie Maria Tomlin
Parish or Poor Law Union: Bethnal Green St Jude
Borough: Tower Hamlets
Register Type: Parish Registers

lived at 28 Barnsley Street, father a beer retailer

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 16 Oct 2014 12:06

Brilliant - thank you Chris and Maddie :-D

Maddie

Maddie Report 16 Oct 2014 12:07

?

London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921 about Thomas Tomlin
Name: Thomas Tomlin
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1834
Age: 52
Spouse: Hannah Maria Appleby
Spouse Age: 20
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 28 Aug 1886
Parish: St Jude, Bethnal Green
Borough: Tower Hamlets
Father Name: John Tomlin
Spouse Father: Thomas William Appleby
Register Type: Parish Register

he was a warehouse keeper, father a baliff
Hannah's father a bootmaker
both lived at 28 Barnsley Street

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 16 Oct 2014 12:13

Oh well done. John Tomlin - Baliff - 'fits' with other records.

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 16 Oct 2014 12:19

Would it be possible to find Albert's mother?

She and Henry Tomlin must have married abt 1871 and died by 1884 when Henry married Elizabeth Vale


1871 England Census about Henry Tomlin
Name: Henry Tomlin
Age: 26
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1845
Relation: Boarder
Gender: Male
Where born: Newmarket, Cambridgeshire, England
Civil Parish: Mile End Old Town
Ecclesiastical parish: St Luke
Town: Mile End Old Town
County/Island: London
Country: England
Registration district: Mile End Old Town
Sub-registration district: Mile End Old Town, Eastern


1881 England Census about Henry Tomlin
Name: Henry Tomlin
Age: 37
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1844
Relationship to Head: Head
Father: John Tomlin
Mother: Mary Tomlin
Gender: Male
Where born: Wooddetton, Cambridgeshire, England
Civil Parish: East Ham
County/Island: Essex
Country: England
Street address: 3 Numa Terr Roman Rd
Marital Status: Married

Occupation: Labourer
Registration district: West Ham
Sub-registration district: West Ham

Name Age
Henry Tomlin 37
>>>>Henry Tomlin 9 - Mile End
>>>>Albert Tomlin 3 - East Ham
>>>>Arthur Tomlin 1 - Culford Suffolk
John Tomlin 70 - Culford Suffolk
Mary Tomlin 69 - Woodditton, Cambs

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 16 Oct 2014 13:04

(possible)

Marriages Sep 1871 (>99%)
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Bowd Lucy Greenwich 1d 1080
TOMLIN Henry Greenwich 1d 1080


Name: Henry Tomlin (Gas Stoker)
Spouse: Lucy Bowd
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 19 Sep 1871
Parish: Holy Trinity, Blackheath Hill
Borough: Greenwich
Father Name: John Tomlin (Bailiff)
Spouse Father: John Bowd (Milk Man)
Register Type: Parish Register
(Residence at Time for both, Maidenstone Hill. Both Full Age)

Chris :)


Deaths Jun 1880 (>99%)
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TOMLIN Lucy 36 W. Ham 4a 33

Burial Register summary
Tomlin Lucy
Burial date 02 May 1880
Authority Manor Park
Location Manor Park Cemetery (Newham)

https://www.deceasedonline.com/servlet/GSDOSearch

Maddie

Maddie Report 16 Oct 2014 13:10

????

England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index, 1837-1915 about Lucy Tomlin
Name: Lucy Tomlin
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1844
Registration Year: 1880
Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun
Age at Death: 36
Registration district: West Ham
Parishes for this Registration District: View Ecclesiastical Parishes associated with this Registration District
Inferred County: Essex
Volume: 4a
Page: 53

Maddie

Maddie Report 16 Oct 2014 13:14

??

England, Select Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 about Lucy Bowd
Name: Lucy Bowd
Gender: Female
Birth Date: 2 Mar 1844
Baptism Date: 13 Apr 1865
Baptism Place: Saint Martin IN The Fields,Westminster,London,England
Father: John Bowd
Mother: Mary Ann
FHL Film Number: 561147, 561148, 561149

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 16 Oct 2014 13:31

Thank you - Lucy does seem to be a possible candidate. :-)