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16 Oct 2014 11:33 |
SEAX has the following image. I'm trying to find Florence before her marriage. Its not unknown for cousins to marry cousins, not that she or her father has been featured so far.
St Margarets Barking 22 Jul 1911 Florence Tomlin age 23 Father Thomas Tomlin, a deceased Bus Driver
The address is that of her husband, Albert Tomlin, 113 Kennedy Road Barking
Witnesses Henry Tomlin (who is Albert's father) and Rosina Clara Tomlin. I've no idea who Rosina Clara Tomlin is - she might be from Florence's side.
Apart from Greater London, there are famly links to Cambridgeshire and Bexleyheath, Kent. The B'H branch has been extensively researched as that's the direct line
Thank you
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16 Oct 2014 11:37 |
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1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription 66 Portland St Ratcliff, Ratcliff, London, England Print transcription View image Household Members First name(s) Last name Relationship to household head Marital condition Gender Age Birth year Birth place Occupation James William Betts Head Married Male 33 1878 Ipswick Suffolk Brewer Transcription Hannah Maria Betts Wife Married Female 44 1867 Mile End London - Transcription Frederick George Tomlin Son Single Male 19 1892 Mile End London Store Labourer Transcription Rosina Clara Tomlin Daughter Single Female 18 1893 North Bow London Student Transcription Thomas Tomlin Son Single Male 14 1897 Homerton London Stores Labourer
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16 Oct 2014 11:40 |
1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription 33, Eastfield Street, Limehouse, Stepney, London, England Print transcription View image Household Members First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place Hannah Tomlin Head Widow Female 34 1867 General Shop Keeper Mile End, Middlesex, England Transcription Lilian Tomlin Daughter Single Female 14 1887 Shirt Machinist Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England Transcription Frederick Tomlin Son Single Male 9 1892 - Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England Transcription Rosina Tomlin Daughter Single Female 7 1894 - Bow, Middlesex, England Transcription Thomas Tomlin Son Single Male 4 1897 - South Hackney, Middlesex, England Transcription Rose Belcher Cousin Single Female 27 1874 Shirt Machinist Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England
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16 Oct 2014 11:43 |
1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Digby Street, Bethnal Green, London, England Print transcription View image Household Members First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place Thomas Tomlin Head Married Male 55 1836 Beer House Keeper Newmarket, Cambridgeshire, England Transcription Hannah M Tomlin Wife Married Female 24 1867 - Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England Transcription Lillian Tomlin Daughter Single Female 4 1887 Scholar Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England Transcription Florence Tomlin Daughter Single Female 2 1889 - Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England Transcription Thomas W Tomlin Son Single Male 1 1890 - Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England Transcription Rose Betcher Cousin Single Female 17 1874 Barmaid Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England
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16 Oct 2014 11:50 |
Thank you. That's interesting, especially the 1891.
I do have Thomas Tomlin in 1881, but with a different wife
Name: Thomas Tomlin Age: 48 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1833 Relationship to Head: Head Spouse: Betsey Tomlin Gender: Male Where born: Wood Ditton, Cambridgeshire, England Civil Parish: Bethnal Green County/Island: London Country: England Street address: 20 Barnsley St Marital Status: Married Occupation: Beerhouse Keeper Registration district: Bethnal Green Sub-registration district: Bethnal Green
Thomas Tomlin 48 Betsey Tomlin 44
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16 Oct 2014 11:54 |
1901 England Census about Florance Tomlin Name: Florance Tomlin Age: 12 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1889 Relation to Head: Niece Gender: Female Birth Place: Bethnal Green, London, England Civil Parish: Barking Ecclesiastical parish: Barking St Margaret Town: Barking County/Island: Essex Country: England Street address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Education:
Employment status: View image Registration district: Romford Sub-registration District: Barkingtown ED, institution, or vessel: 02 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 1653 Folio: 40 Page Number: 19 Household schedule number: 114 Household Members: Name Age Henry Tomlin 56 Elizabeth Tomlin 46 Albert Tomlin 23 Arthur Tomlin 21 John Tomlin 6 Florance Tomlin 12
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16 Oct 2014 11:54 |
What do you think about this?
London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906 about Rosina Clara Tomlin Name: Rosina Clara Tomlin Record Type: Baptism Baptism Date: 15 Jan 1893 - b 23 Dec 1892 Father's Name: Thomas Tomlin - Bus Driver Mother's name: Hannah Maria Tomlin Parish or Poor Law Union: St Stephen, Tredegar Road Borough: Tower Hamlets Register Type: Parish Registers
36 Libra Road
Can we look for a bap for Florence please?
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16 Oct 2014 11:56 |
Maddie - I'd forgotten about that 1901! So it is likely to be a cousin-cousin marriage after all!
Henry Tomlin 1844 and Thomas Tomlin 1834 were brothers
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16 Oct 2014 11:57 |
Cambridgeshire Burials Transcription First name(s) Betsy Last name Tomlin Birth year 1837 Death year 1884 Age 47 Burial year 1884 Burial date 29 Apr 1884 Residence of London E. Parish Wood Ditton County Cambridgeshire Record set Cambridgeshire Burials
Cambridgeshire Banns Transcription First name(s) Thomas Last name Tomlin Banns year 1853 Banns date 13 Nov 1853
Marriage year 1853 Marriage day 3 Marriage month Dec Place WOOD DITTON Groom's first name(s) Thomas (x) Groom's last name TOMBLIN Groom's marital status bac Groom's age 20 Groom's occupation lab Groom's residence otp Groom's father's first name(s) John Groom's father's occupation lab Bride's first name(s) Betsy (x) Bride's last name STARLING Bride's marital status sp Bride's age 18 Bride's residence otp Bride's father's first name(s) Stephen Bride's father's occupation lab
(can see above, both from FMP)
Chris :)
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Marriages Dec 1853 (>99%) ------------------------------------------------------ Starling Betsy Newmarket 3b 1200 Tomblin Thomas Newmarket 3b 1200
Baptism (FMP) First Name THOMAS Last Name TOMLINE Year Of Birth 1833 Baptism year 1833 Baptism date 10 Nov 1833 Abode otp Place WOOD DITTON Mother's Given Name Mary Father's First Name John Father occupation lab
Baptism (FMP) First Name HENRY Last Name TOMLIN Year Of Birth 1844 Baptism year 1844 Baptism date 26 May 1844 Abode otp Place WOOD DITTON Mother's Given Name Mary Father's First Name John Father occupation lab
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16 Oct 2014 12:02 |
London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906 about Florence Tomlin Name: Florence Tomlin Record Type: Baptism Baptism Date: 14 Jun 1888 Father's Name: Thomas Tomlin Mother's name: Annie Maria Tomlin Parish or Poor Law Union: Bethnal Green St Jude Borough: Tower Hamlets Register Type: Parish Registers
lived at 28 Barnsley Street, father a beer retailer
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16 Oct 2014 12:06 |
Brilliant - thank you Chris and Maddie :-D
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16 Oct 2014 12:07 |
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London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921 about Thomas Tomlin Name: Thomas Tomlin Estimated Birth Year: abt 1834 Age: 52 Spouse: Hannah Maria Appleby Spouse Age: 20 Record Type: Marriage Event Date: 28 Aug 1886 Parish: St Jude, Bethnal Green Borough: Tower Hamlets Father Name: John Tomlin Spouse Father: Thomas William Appleby Register Type: Parish Register
he was a warehouse keeper, father a baliff Hannah's father a bootmaker both lived at 28 Barnsley Street
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16 Oct 2014 12:13 |
Oh well done. John Tomlin - Baliff - 'fits' with other records.
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16 Oct 2014 12:19 |
Would it be possible to find Albert's mother?
She and Henry Tomlin must have married abt 1871 and died by 1884 when Henry married Elizabeth Vale
1871 England Census about Henry Tomlin Name: Henry Tomlin Age: 26 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1845 Relation: Boarder Gender: Male Where born: Newmarket, Cambridgeshire, England Civil Parish: Mile End Old Town Ecclesiastical parish: St Luke Town: Mile End Old Town County/Island: London Country: England Registration district: Mile End Old Town Sub-registration district: Mile End Old Town, Eastern
1881 England Census about Henry Tomlin Name: Henry Tomlin Age: 37 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1844 Relationship to Head: Head Father: John Tomlin Mother: Mary Tomlin Gender: Male Where born: Wooddetton, Cambridgeshire, England Civil Parish: East Ham County/Island: Essex Country: England Street address: 3 Numa Terr Roman Rd Marital Status: Married
Occupation: Labourer Registration district: West Ham Sub-registration district: West Ham
Name Age Henry Tomlin 37 >>>>Henry Tomlin 9 - Mile End >>>>Albert Tomlin 3 - East Ham >>>>Arthur Tomlin 1 - Culford Suffolk John Tomlin 70 - Culford Suffolk Mary Tomlin 69 - Woodditton, Cambs
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16 Oct 2014 13:04 |
(possible)
Marriages Sep 1871 (>99%) ---------------------------------------------------- Bowd Lucy Greenwich 1d 1080 TOMLIN Henry Greenwich 1d 1080
Name: Henry Tomlin (Gas Stoker) Spouse: Lucy Bowd Record Type: Marriage Event Date: 19 Sep 1871 Parish: Holy Trinity, Blackheath Hill Borough: Greenwich Father Name: John Tomlin (Bailiff) Spouse Father: John Bowd (Milk Man) Register Type: Parish Register (Residence at Time for both, Maidenstone Hill. Both Full Age)
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Deaths Jun 1880 (>99%) ---------------------------------------------- TOMLIN Lucy 36 W. Ham 4a 33
Burial Register summary Tomlin Lucy Burial date 02 May 1880 Authority Manor Park Location Manor Park Cemetery (Newham)
https://www.deceasedonline.com/servlet/GSDOSearch
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16 Oct 2014 13:10 |
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England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index, 1837-1915 about Lucy Tomlin Name: Lucy Tomlin Estimated Birth Year: abt 1844 Registration Year: 1880 Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun Age at Death: 36 Registration district: West Ham Parishes for this Registration District: View Ecclesiastical Parishes associated with this Registration District Inferred County: Essex Volume: 4a Page: 53
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16 Oct 2014 13:14 |
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England, Select Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 about Lucy Bowd Name: Lucy Bowd Gender: Female Birth Date: 2 Mar 1844 Baptism Date: 13 Apr 1865 Baptism Place: Saint Martin IN The Fields,Westminster,London,England Father: John Bowd Mother: Mary Ann FHL Film Number: 561147, 561148, 561149
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16 Oct 2014 13:31 |
Thank you - Lucy does seem to be a possible candidate. :-)
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