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John Kirchen 1906? and Doris Maud Kirchen 1904

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David

David Report 14 Oct 2014 20:22

Hi everyone,
I am trying to discover the mothers maiden name of the above. He was registered in Thetford for death aged 0, in vol. 4b, page 235, and line 307.
Doris was listed under Thetford Norfolk as,vol4b, page 346, line 300. aged 0.
Any help with these would be most appreciated

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 14 Oct 2014 20:25

Have you tried looking for a Kirchen family living in Norfolk on the 1911 census

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 14 Oct 2014 20:26

Childrens death certificate will say child of and the fathers name

You may have to buy one of the certs to see the fathers name and then look fir a marriage

HeyJudeB4Beatles

HeyJudeB4Beatles Report 14 Oct 2014 20:27

What makes you think they are "your's"? The only way to establish MMN will be to buy one of the birth certificates.

Jude

Rambling

Rambling Report 14 Oct 2014 20:36

There are several Kirchen marriages in Thetford to which John and Doris could be the childen

Marriages Jun 1890 (>99%)
Kirchen John Thetford 4b 617

Marriages Dec 1896 (>99%)
Kirchen William Thetford 4b 1055

m 1901 Kirchen John Thetford 4b 1043

So really you will need the birth certs

David

David Report 14 Oct 2014 20:38

My grandparents had two living children and one had died on the 1911 census. It is this child I am trying to find the details of. I think I have narrowed it down to these two ?.
My grandparents were John Kirchen and Clara Kirchen ( Vine ).

Rambling

Rambling Report 14 Oct 2014 20:40

well I am only seeing a birth for Doris Maud on freebmd? not a death? ( apologies if I am missing it)

1911 England Census about Doris Maud Kirchen
Name: Doris Maud Kirchen
Age in 1911: 7
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1904
Relation to Head: Daughter
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Methwold Hythe, Norfolk
Civil Parish: Methwold
County/Island: Norfolk
Country: England
Street address: The Hythe, Methwold Hythe, Methwold Nr Brandon, Stoke Ferry
Occupation: school
Registration district: Swaffham
Registration District Number: 239
Sub-registration district: Methwold
ED, institution, or vessel: 12
Household schedule number: 112
Piece: 11723
Household Members:
Name Age
Robert William Kirchen 37
Mary Charlotte Kirchen 39
May Agness Kirchen 11
Doris Maud Kirchen 7
William Agustin Kirchen 5
Mary Josephine Kirchen 1

Rambling

Rambling Report 14 Oct 2014 20:44

There's thischild also

Deaths Sep 1908 (>99%)
KIRCHEN Olive Mildred 0 Thetford 4b 182

Rambling

Rambling Report 14 Oct 2014 20:48

Surviving children

Births Mar 1902 (>99%)
KIRCHEN Florence Maud Thetford 4b 334

Births Mar 1904 (>99%)
Kirchen Daisy May Thetford 4b 345

so either John or Olive could be the third child,

Rambling

Rambling Report 14 Oct 2014 21:02

A tree on Ancestry has Olive as the child of William and Mary Kirchen , but there is no evidence given , though they do have an exact birthdate for her so may imply that they have a birth cert?