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LILIAN MARY(MARIAN) BASS
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SylviaInCanada | Report | 24 Oct 2014 04:57 |
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jenVG | Report | 23 Oct 2014 22:37 |
Thanks. Hope the house move goes well. That is no.3 in the levels of stress after beveavement and divorce. In the meantime I shall be considering the lilies of the field - how they grow etc etc. |
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JoonieCloonie | Report | 23 Oct 2014 22:31 |
I would keep going in this thread just so all the background info is there. |
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jenVG | Report | 23 Oct 2014 09:58 |
PS - She definitely signed her name Lillian with 2 "l's" |
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jenVG | Report | 23 Oct 2014 09:58 |
Joonie - The death cert for Mary Ann Bass in 1945 in Fulham arrived and unfortunately it was the wrong lady (wrong husband) - so at least we can discount that one. I have another line to follow time permitting. On the marriage cert of Mary Ann Connor and Henry Frederick Bass in Dec 1907 here were two witnesses as usual and one of them was a Lillian Kelly. So as the bride had no sisters called Lillian (who could have married before to become Kelly) I am thinking that this Lillian is the best friend of our Mary Ann Connor and of similar age. Can you advise me if it is better for me to seek help on here by putting on a new post about this person please? |
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jenVG | Report | 14 Oct 2014 23:07 |
Hi everybody. The death cert for the Fulham Mary Ann Bass is on its way. In the meantime Mary Ann's niece has sent me a copy of her aunt's marriage cert and I notice that one of the witnesses was called Lillian Kelly. The other one was Michael John Kirby. (22nd December 1907 Mile End Old Town Guardian Angels Chapel - Henry Frederick Bass aged 22 yrs a carman of 106 Skidmore Streeet and Mary Ann Connor aged 19yrs of 124 Ernest ? Street. Would it not be strange if that Lillian was the same person who ended up living with Hen Fred for all those years up to 1958. |
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jenVG | Report | 11 Oct 2014 23:25 |
I wondered that too. I think another £9.25 is called for at the GRO. Maybe worth it to solve this. The niece of Mary Ann Bass is in touch with me as we have joined forces to crack this. (Joan Penfold) |
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JoonieCloonie | Report | 11 Oct 2014 23:10 |
a possibility for Mary Ann Bass (assuming you don't know?) |
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jenVG | Report | 11 Oct 2014 20:55 |
I have got his death cert and the informant was somebody called John J O'Keefe nephew. I know of no O'Keefe connections to the Bass family and all investigations to finding out who this man was have drawn a blank. He was at the address for a couple of years after Hen Fred's death in Sept 1959 and then disappeared! Our Mary Ann (nee Connor) was born August 1888 in Whitechapel. Thnaks for trying to help me. |
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JoonieCloonie | Report | 11 Oct 2014 20:46 |
it does seem likely that she was a new partner living with him as spouse |
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jenVG | Report | 11 Oct 2014 18:49 |
Hi JoonieCloonie, Henry Frederick Bass was born in Bethnal Green in 1885 to parents Frederick Henry Bass and Catherine nee Court. Fred Hen was my grandmother's brother. Thanks for trying to help He married Mary Ann Connor in Dec 1907 and they were together on the 1911 census at Arbour Square Stepney. The marriage did not survive (family knowlege handed down). Now whether the marriage split was temporary as there was a Mary Ann Bass with Hen Fred in the 1930's on and off - sometimes listed as Ann Mary. Could do with a time machine here - or a sneak preview of the 1921 census. |
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Andrew | Report | 11 Oct 2014 18:19 |
There is Mary Lilian Bass there in 1926 |
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JoonieCloonie | Report | 11 Oct 2014 18:16 |
Jennifer do you know something about Henry Frederick Bass? |
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jenVG | Report | 11 Oct 2014 18:15 |
Yes Andrew - Which leads me to believe that Lilian May may have been there too - but as a child and too young to vote. |
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Andrew | Report | 11 Oct 2014 18:11 |
Henry is at the same address on his own in 1920 |
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jenVG | Report | 11 Oct 2014 18:07 |
Yes Patchem - living at the same address as Henry Frederick Bass. Now, the question is was she his daughter or a woman using his name. I don't think there is any way of finding out - unless there is something I don't know about in the way of records. |
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patchem | Report | 11 Oct 2014 18:03 |
With Bertie: |
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Andrew | Report | 11 Oct 2014 18:03 |
On the London ER she is with Henry Frederick Bass. |
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KathleenBell | Report | 11 Oct 2014 17:59 |
Was that her married name? |
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patchem | Report | 11 Oct 2014 17:48 |
Could you explain how you got back to her, to know what sort of brick wall you are trying to knock down? |