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Thank you Tenerife Sun, the information on where born Milton Oxford is correct,
Bessie and Ivy were my wifes Dads Sisters. The Beethoven School is very familier with the family and was attended by some of the family when we were in Paddington London.

Still in Cathnor Road, Hammersmith and Fulham (re Choccys post) in 1930 with Bessie and Ivy

Original says 'Cathnor'

The son Alfred Andrew English

Name: Alfred English
Age: 9
Birth Date: 18 Jan 1879
School: Beethoven Street School
Borough: Westminster
Admission Date: 21 Jun 1888
Parent: Andrew
Notes: Beethoven Street School (0534) opened 1881, renamed Beethoven Secondary School in 1951
Reference Number: LCC/EO/DIV02/BEE/AD/005

His address was 117 Harris Street and he left the school on 10/09/1888

I think this is the man who died in 1921

1911 census living with over 100 others all men. Original says unemployed born Oxford and Great Milton

Name: Andrew English
Age in 1911: 52
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1859
Relation to Head: Lodger
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Oxford, England
Civil Parish: Hammersmith
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street address: Jubilee Chambers Lodging House, Bradmore Lane, Hammersmith W
Marital Status: Married
Occupation: GENERAL LABOURER
Registration district: Fulham
Registration District Number: 3
Sub-registration district: South Hammersmith
ED, institution, or vessel: 40-46
Piece: 266

Thank you all for your help, I have the census's for much of this, the army record was for my wifes Grandad and was very interesting which I will follow up. The record on death in 1921 could be correct I will get cert. to check it out. the correct address and is something. Thank you Cynthia for your information on how to check the message, i did not know how to do this.
Mike

Hello Michael and welcome to the Community Boards.



(I'll let Michael know how to find his replies) :-)

son Alfred and wife in 1911 census married 8 years



1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census



Household Information

Address 75 CATHNOR ROAD S BUSH
Parish HAMMERSMITH
County London
Country ENGLAND
Ecclesiastical District
Enumeration District 15
Registration District FULHAM
Registration District Number 3
SubDistrict Number 1
Category Census, Land & Surveys
Record set 1911 Census for England & Wales
Collections from Great Britain

Person 1

First Name ALFRED
Last Name ENGLISH
Birth Year 1879
Age 32
Where Born FULHAM
Relationship To Head of Household HEAD
Gender Male
Condition MARRIED
Year Of Marriage
Years Of Marriage
Occupation CONTRACTORS CARMAN
Military Info
Census Reference RG14PN211 RG78PN7 RD3 SD1 ED15 SN477
Archive Reference RG14
Folio
Page
Piece Number 211

Person 2

First Name BESSIE
Last Name ENGLISH
Birth Year 1887
Age 24
Where Born FULHAM
Relationship To Head of Household WIFE
Gender Female
Condition MARRIED
Year Of Marriage 1903
Years Of Marriage 8
Occupation
Military Info
Census Reference RG14PN211 RG78PN7 RD3 SD1 ED15 SN477
Archive Reference RG14
Folio
Page
Piece Number 211

Person 3

First Name BESSIE
Last Name ENGLISH
Birth Year 1904
Age 7
Where Born FULHAM
Relationship To Head of Household DAUGHTER
Gender Female
Condition
Year Of Marriage
Years Of Marriage
Occupation SCHOOL
Military Info
Census Reference RG14PN211 RG78PN7 RD3 SD1 ED15 SN477
Archive Reference RG14
Folio
Page
Piece Number 211

Person 4

First Name IVY
Last Name ENGLISH
Birth Year 1906
Age 5
Where Born FULHAM
Relationship To Head of Household DAUGHTER
Gender Female
Condition
Year Of Marriage
Years Of Marriage
Occupation
Military Info
Census Reference RG14PN211 RG78PN7 RD3 SD1 ED15 SN477
Archive Reference RG14
Folio
Page
Piece Number 211

Person 5

First Name JOSEPH
Last Name ENGLISH
Birth Year 1908
Age 3
Where Born HAMMERSMITH
Relationship To Head of Household SON
Gender Male
Condition
Year Of Marriage
Years Of Marriage
Occupation
Military Info
Census Reference RG14PN211 RG78PN7 RD3 SD1 ED15 SN477
Archive Reference RG14
Folio
Page
Piece Number 211

Person 6

First Name FREDERICK
Last Name ENGLISH
Birth Year 1911
Age 0
Where Born HAMMERSMITH
Relationship To Head of Household SON
Gender Male
Condition
Year Of Marriage
Years Of Marriage
Occupation
Military Info
Census Reference RG14PN211 RG78PN7 RD3 SD1 ED15 SN477
Archive Reference RG14
Folio
Page
Piece Number 211

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UK, Incoming Passenger Lists, 1878-1960

Name: Mr A English

Birth Date: abt 1853

Age: 43

Port of Departure: South Africa

Arrival Date: 21 Jan 1896

Port of Arrival: England

Ship Name: Greek
Official Number: 98870

? re the Eliza Choccy posted

1891 England Census about Eliza English
Name: Eliza English
Age: 14
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1877
Relation: Niece
Gender: Female
Where born: Fulham, London, England
Civil Parish: Fulham
Ecclesiastical parish: St Clement
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: Fulham
Sub-registration district: Fulham
ED, institution, or vessel: 18
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 48
Folio: 50
Page Number: 27
Household Members:
Name Age
John Baxter 39
Elizabeth S Baxter 38
Edgar V Baxter 14
Albert J Baxter 11
Sidney C H Baxter 9
Reginal F Baxter 6
Eliza English 14 <<<<<<<<
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EDIT no sorry just noticed the age is out so probably not

Army records make reference to a repayment to

Mrs English, 75 Cattinor (?) Road, Shepherds Bush on 16th Nov 1916, being part refund of purchase money on re-enlistment

EDIT - think it's Cathnor Road, Shepherds Bush

British Army WWI Pension Records 1914-1920

NameAlfred English

Gender:Male
Birth Date:abt 1879
Birth Place:Fulham, Middlesex
Age:19
Document Year:1898
Regimental Number:5945
Regiment Name:Oxfords Light Infantry
Form Title:Short Service Attestation
Number of Images:5

Family Members:

Alfred English Self (Head)

>>>>>>>>>>>>>Eliza English Sister

??

Births Dec 1876 (>99%)

English Eliza Fulham 1a 258


London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921

Name:Rowland Hill Stupple

Estimated Birth Year:abt 1874
Age:24

Spouse Eliza English
Spouse Age: 21

Record Type:Marriage
Event Date:16 Apr 1898
Parish:St Jude, South Kensington
Borough:Kensington and Chelsea

Father Name:Isaac Stupple

>>>>>>>Spouse Father: Andrew English - Sanitary Officer

Register Type: Parish Register

Name: Ivy English
Event Type: Census
Event Date: 1911
Gender: Female
Age: 5
Birthplace: Fulham, London
Schedule Type: Household
Registration District: Fulham
Sub-District: North Hammersmith
Parish: Hammersmith
County: London

Name: Bessie English
Event Type: Census
Event Date: 1911
Gender: Female
Age: 24
Birthplace: Fulham, London
Schedule Type: Household
Registration District: Fulham
Sub-District: North Hammersmith
Parish: Hammersmith
County: London

Possible for son Alfred


1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census



Household Information

Street KENSAL ROAD
Parish PADDINGTON
Town PADDINGTON
City
County London
Country ENGLAND
Ecclesiastical District ST ANDREWS
Enumeration District 35
Municipal Ward
Parliamentary Borough PADDINGTON
Registration District PADDINGTON
Category Census, Land & Surveys
Record set 1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Collections from Great Britain

Person 1

First Name ALFRED A
Last Name ENGLISH
Birth Year 1879
Age 12
Birth County Surrey
Birth Town Balham
Birth Place England
Relationship To Head of Household GRANDSON
Gender Male
Occupation SCHOLAR
Condition SINGLE
Archive Reference RG12
Folio 110
Page 41
Piece Number 10

Person 2

First Name THOMAS
Last Name DEABILL
Birth Year 1833
Age 58
Birth County
Birth Town Nottingham
Birth Place
Relationship To Head of Household HEAD
Gender Male
Occupation CARPENTER
Condition WIDOWER
Archive Reference RG12
Folio 110
Page 41
Piece Number 10

Name: Alfred Andrew English
Event Type: Marriage
Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration Year: 1903
Registration District: Fulham
County: London
Event Place: Fulham, London, England
Volume: 1A
Page: 706
Line Number: 24

Alfred Andrew English probably married one of the following people

Name: Bessie Towler

Name: Andrew English
Event Type: Marriage
Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun
Registration Year: 1876
Registration District: Wandsworth
County: London
Event Place: Wandsworth, London, England
Volume: 1D
Page: 812
Line Number: 174

Andrew English probably married one of the following people

Name: Alice Deabill

Age out but correct area, and no other birth to account for it?

England & Wales, Death Index,
Andrew English
Birth Date: abt 1849
Date of Registration: Jun 1921
Age at Death: 72
Registration district: Poplar
Inferred County: London
Volume: 1c
Page: 372

I have lost track of Andrew English after 1881
He was born 13/4/1853 Fulham 1A 109 lived in High Road, Fulham, London.
On 1861 census age 7 living at Matyears Cottage Deadman Lan,e Fulham
on 1871 Census at same address age 17
Married Alice Deabill on 20/4/1876 Battersea, living at Church Road Battersea.
Andrew and Alice had a son Alfred andrew on 18/1/1879 living at Clyde Street Fulham.
On 1881 census His wife Alice living with her mum and Dad 23 Bridge Street Battersea.
Only Andrew I can find is at 17 Serffs Tce Star Lane living with Jane and Henry Parry Lodger age 30 which is about right unmarried?
I have loss tract from here not finding him on Deaths or Departure list of ships leaving Uk.
Any advice please.
Thanks Mike