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Leo (Leonard ?) Thomas Smith born about 1850

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Raymond

Raymond Report 8 Oct 2014 20:17

Hi

I am stuck. Has anyone news of the above. His son was Edward James Smith born 1877, married Elizabeth Martindale on 23-4-1898. Edward was probably born in East London. Anything relevant would be appreciated.

Raymond

patchem

patchem Report 8 Oct 2014 20:26

Have you found Edward on any of the censuses?

With the surname Smith, we need as much information as possible - what children did Edward have?

Thank-you

safc

safc Report 8 Oct 2014 20:28

County Norfolk
Place Blakeney
Church St. Nicholas
RegisterNumber 245
MarriageDate 11 Mar 1872
GroomForename Leo Thomas
GroomSurname SMITH
GroomAge 22
GroomParish
GroomCondition Single
GroomOccupation pastry cook
GroomAbode Bakers Row Clerkenwell
BrideForename Elizabeth
BrideSurname WRIGHT
BrideAge 19
BrideParish
BrideCondition Single
BrideOccupation
BrideAbode Glandford
GroomFatherForename James
GroomFatherSurname SMITH
GroomFatherOccupation greengrocer
BrideFatherForename Robert
BrideFatherSurname WRIGHT
BrideFatherOccupation baker
WitnessOneForename Edward
WitnessOneSurname RAYNER
WitnessTwoForename Mary Ann
WitnessTwoSurname COOPER
Notes Banns: both signed
FileNumber 5886

safc

safc Report 8 Oct 2014 20:30


1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
16, Noble Street, Clerkenwell, Holborn, London, England
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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Leo Thomas Smith Head Married Male 30 1851 Pastry Cook Clerkenwell, Middlesex, England
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Elizabeth Smith Wife Married Female 27 1854 - Norfolk, England
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Elizabeth Anne Smith Daughter Single Female 8 1873 Scholar Norfolk, England
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Leo Thomas Smith Son Single Male 7 1874 Scholar Clerkenwell, Middlesex, England
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Edward Jas Smith Son Single Male 0 1881 - Clerkenwell, Middlesex, England
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Rebecca Smith Daughter Single Female 0 1881 - Clerkenwell, Middlesex, England

safc

safc Report 8 Oct 2014 20:32


1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Devonshire Street, Saint George the Martyr, Holborn, Middlesex, England
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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
James Smith Head Married Male 32 1819 Green Grocer St George the Martyr, Middlesex, England
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Mary Smith Wife - Female 25 1826 - Cripplegate, Middlesex, England
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James Smith Son - Male 2 1849 - St George the Martyr, Middlesex, England
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Leonard Smith Son - Male 0 1851 - St George the Martyr, Middlesex, England
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Mary Barry - Unmarried Female 20 1831 Servant Ireland
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John Foley Head - Male 35 1816 Book Binder Ireland
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Hanah Foley Wife - Female 30 1821 - Wales
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Stephen Foley Son - Male 1 1850 - St George the Martyr, Middlesex, England
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Richard Webb Head Married Male 43 1808 Shoe Maker Reading, Berkshire, England
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Sarah Webb Wife - Female 47 1804 - St Giles, Middlesex, England
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George Webb Son Unmarried Male 20 1831 Shoe Maker St Andrew's, Middlesex, England
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Edward Webb Son - Male 16 1835 Blacking Maker St Andrew's, Middlesex, England
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Letitia Webb Daughter - Female 13 1838 - St Andrew's, Middlesex, England
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Thomas Barrett Head Married Male 30 1821 Carpenter Ireland
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Morgan Barrett Wife - Female 30 1821 - Pimlico, Middlesex, England
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Mary Ann Barrett Daughter - Female 8 1843 - Kensington, Surrey, England
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Alfred Barrett Son - Male 4 1847 - Kensington, Surrey, England

Kucinta

Kucinta Report 9 Oct 2014 00:00

Name: Elizabeth Martindale
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1879
Age: 19
Spouse: Edward James Smith - baker<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Spouse Age: 21
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 23 Apr 1898
Parish: All Saints, Battle Bridge
Borough: Islington
Father Name: Frederick Martindale marble mason (deceased)
Spouse Father: Leo Thomas Smith - pastrycook<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Register Type: Parish Register

patchem

patchem Report 9 Oct 2014 06:45

I had assumed that Raymond had that marriage of Edward and Elizabeth, which was where he had the birth year of 1877, which disagreed with the age in that 1881 census posted.
But it would have been useful to state that Leo was a pastrycook when his son married.

Correction:
I just checked the image of that census that safc posted - Edward James and Rebecca are not twins, both 0 years in 1881.
Rebecca is 1 month and Edward is 3 years.

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 9 Oct 2014 09:46

Births Jun 1850 (>99%)
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Smith Lee Thomas Mary Holborn 2 157

(not sure on above!)

Chris :)

Deaths Dec 1898 (>99%)
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Smith Leo Thomas 48 Pancras 1b 101

Kucinta

Kucinta Report 9 Oct 2014 14:41

I only posted the marriage of Edward and Elizabeth in order to highlight the fact that Leo Thomas's occupation was recorded as pastrycook, as it seemed to confirm the material found by safc related to the right family.

Cynthia

Cynthia Report 9 Oct 2014 15:11

Hello Raymond and welcome to the Community boards.



(I'll let Raymond know how to find his replies) :-)