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Richard Rivers - Eynsford, Kent, England

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Jacqueline

Jacqueline Report 29 Sep 2014 10:17

On Ancestry under Wills, England and Wales, Prerogative Court of Canterbury Wills, 1384 - 1858, there is the will of Richard Rivers, probate date 24th April, 1751.

On the second page of the will about twenty odd lines down there is a mention of his nephew Thomas ????????, Son of his late Sister Sarah. Can anyone read the surname? Does it end in "kins"?

The will is wonderful because it appears he died without children so he names his siblings and their children as well as his wife. I believe that his brother Henry was my
gt.gt.gt. grandfather.

Thank you in advance for any help and advice.

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 29 Sep 2014 10:19

Will take a look

Researching:
Surname Fahse. Germany. Essex .South East London My avatar is one of our wedding photos of 1957

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 29 Sep 2014 10:26

Very difficult to read but he is the son of his sister sarah who was deceased
The last letters could be ... kins

Maybe you can find her married name

Researching:
Surname Fahse. Germany. Essex .South East London My avatar is one of our wedding photos of 1957

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 29 Sep 2014 10:44

Could this be her

Name: Sarah Rivers
Gender: Female
Christening Date: 12 May 1700
Christening Place: Eynesford, Kent, England
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C13138-1 , System Origin: England-EASy , GS Film number: 992518 , Reference ID: item 4

Researching:
Surname Fahse. Germany. Essex .South East London My avatar is one of our wedding photos of 1957

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 29 Sep 2014 10:48

Looking further down the page it looks like the first letter is a H

So maybe the name is Hutchins

It looks possible

Researching:
Surname Fahse. Germany. Essex .South East London My avatar is one of our wedding photos of 1957

Susan

Susan Report 29 Sep 2014 10:59



I was going to say the same Shirley,it looks like Hutchins to me too. :-)

I based that on the way the H is in Henry too.

Researching:
Haycock ...London and Gloucestershire , Walters... South Wales and Gloucestershire , Lewis... South Wales , French ...Nottingham and Essex.

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 29 Sep 2014 11:01

And me.......Hutchins.

:-)

Researching:
"If I don't see you through the week.........I will see you through the window". :o))

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 29 Sep 2014 11:08

I agree with Shirley because if you look below Thomas at the name Henry Edwards thats the same as the surname for Thomas.

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 29 Sep 2014 11:10

The H I mean........

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 29 Sep 2014 11:11

Yes it was Henry Edwards writing that I looked at the way the H is written

Researching:
Surname Fahse. Germany. Essex .South East London My avatar is one of our wedding photos of 1957

Susan

Susan Report 29 Sep 2014 11:42

Have you seen this will.

England & Wales, Prerogative Court of Canterbury Wills, 1384-1858 about Sarah Rivers
Name: Sarah Rivers
Probate Date: 24 Apr 1751
Residence: Eynsford, Kent, England

Is this one related to you as it is the same date as Richards probate

Researching:
Haycock ...London and Gloucestershire , Walters... South Wales and Gloucestershire , Lewis... South Wales , French ...Nottingham and Essex.

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 29 Sep 2014 11:58

County Kent
Place Dartford
Church Holy Trinity Pr
RegisterNumber
BurialDate 30 Aug 1728
Forename Sarah
Relationship Wife of
Rel1MaleForename Thomas
Rel1FemaleForename
Rel1Surname HUTCHINS
Surname HUTCHINS

Burial
County Kent
Place Dartford
Church Holy Trinity Pr
RegisterNumber
BurialDate 08 Apr 1726
Forename Sarah
Relationship Dau of
Rel1MaleForename Thomas
Rel1FemaleForename Sarah
Rel1Surname HUTCHINS
Surname HUTCHINS

(not sure if relating to Sister, could be other names on below link)

http://www.freereg.org.uk/cgi/Search.pl

Chris :)

Baptism
County Kent
Place Eynsford
Church St Martin
RegisterNumber
DateOfBirth
BaptismDate 01 Mar 1723/24
Forename Richard
Sex M
FatherForename John
MotherForename Dorothy
FatherSurname EDWARDS

County Kent
Place Dartford
Church Holy Trinity Pr
RegisterNumber
DateOfBirth
BaptismDate 21 Feb 1713/14
Forename Benjamin
Sex M
FatherForename Thomas
MotherForename Elizabeth
FatherSurname RIVERS

(possible Nephews)

County Kent
Place Eynsford
Church St Martin
RegisterNumber
MarriageDate 23 Nov 1714
GroomForename Thomas
GroomSurname DALTON
BrideForename Margaret
BrideSurname RIVERS


Baptism
County Kent
Place Eynsford
Church St Martin
RegisterNumber
DateOfBirth
BaptismDate 16 Apr 1686
Forename Sarah
Sex F
FatherForename Tho:
MotherForename Margaret
FatherSurname RIVERS
MotherSurname
Abode
FatherOccupation
Notes Twin of Thomas

Baptism
County Kent
Place Eynsford
Church St Martin
RegisterNumber
DateOfBirth
BaptismDate 12 May 1700
Forename Sarah
Sex -
FatherForename
MotherForename
FatherSurname RIVERS
MotherSurname
Abode
FatherOccupation
Notes Twin of William. Parents names not given

Jacqueline

Jacqueline Report 29 Sep 2014 12:04

Thanks for all the help. Yes, Hutchins seems to be the name, unfortunately I cannot find the marriage of Sarah, yes her birth was 1700 Eynsford, nor can I find a Thomas Hutchins born at the right time to a mother Sarah.

The will mentioned above is of Sarah wife of Richard Rivers.

A previous will, that of Thomas Rivers of Eynsford, probate date 12th May, 1736, also names Richard and his brothers. I believe that Thomas was the son of Thomas, brother of Richard.

Hope this makes sense.

Jacqueline

Jacqueline Report 29 Sep 2014 13:05

Thanks Chris - our posting must have crossed. Have had a look at freereg and familysearch.org and found two Sarahs born to Thomas and Sarah. The first baptised 20th Feb. 1725, buried 8th April, 1726. The second baptised 17th September, 1727. The death in 1728 seems to be Sarah, sister of Richard.

Once again, many thanks