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Packer and Carroll married Marylebone 2/3/1874

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Peter

Peter Report 26 Sep 2014 10:54

Alfred John (sometimes Joseph, sometimes JA) b Marylebone 29/7/1850 married Annie Carroll (a Minor ) at St Marylebone 2/3/1874. I have their details up to that date then they both disappear from BMD, censuses etc. I have found a similar named couple in Meaford Ontario in 1881 although the ages don't quite match. Annie was probably b Liverpool 1856 of Irish parents. AJ 's occupation is given as Ostler.
Can anyone find any further trace of them after marriage?

Jacqueline

Jacqueline Report 26 Sep 2014 11:04

Who was named as Annie's father on the marriage cert?

Maddie

Maddie Report 26 Sep 2014 11:15

for ref


London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921 about Alfred John Packer
Name: Alfred John Packer
Spouse: Annie Carroll
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 2 Mar 1874
Parish: St Marylebone
Borough: Westminster
Father Name: John Packer --- wheelwright
Spouse Father: Patrick Carroll ---- deceased,a farmer
Register Type: Parish Register

Mike *

Mike * Report 26 Sep 2014 11:31


Just for background info... are you sure that Alfred John and Alfred Joseph are one and the same ??

Name:
Alfred Joseph Packer

Birth Date:
29 Jul 1850

Baptism Date:
6 Oct 1850

Baptism Place:
Saint Mary-St Marylebone Road,St Marylebone,London,England

Father: John Alfred Packer
Mother: Eliza




MargaretM

MargaretM Report 26 Sep 2014 11:36

There's this one. The name on original could be Packer. He's with wife Anne. Only problem, he's 22 and Anne is 23.


Canadian Passenger Lists, 1865-1935 about Alfred Parker
Name: Alfred Parker
Gender: Male
Age: 22
Birth Year: abt 1852
Date of Arrival: 26 May 1874
Vessel: Polynesian
Search Ship Database: Search the 'Polynesian' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Port of Arrival: Quebec, Quebec, Canada
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England; Londonderry, Ireland

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 26 Sep 2014 11:43

Possible? Both born England but Annie's parents born Ireland.


1891 Census of Canada about Alfred Parker
Name: Alfred Parker
Gender: Male
Marital Status: Married
Age: 39
Birth Year: abt 1852
Birthplace: England
Relation to Head-of-house: Head
Religion: Church of England
French Canadian: No
Spouse's Name: Annie Parker
Father's Birth Place: England
Mother's Birth Place: England
Province: Ontario
District Number: 102
District: Ontario West
Subdistrict: Pickering
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Alfred Parker 39
Annie Parker 34

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 26 Sep 2014 11:43

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1344950?d=desc

(above background info.)

(not sure if any postings are yours, or any could help!, a google search alfred packer meaford, brings a few)

Chris :)

Maddie

Maddie Report 26 Sep 2014 11:44

from a tree on ancestry

Alfred J Packer

Birth
1850 29 Jul
St Marylebone Middlesex London

Christening
1850 6 Oct
Saint Mary, St Marylebone Road, Saint Marylebone, London England

Residence
1851 Age: 1
Sandford Dt Marylebone, no mother shown

Residence
1861 Age: 11
2 Little Carlisle Mews Marylebone

Residence
1871 Age: 21
Aldershot Pte Queens Own Royal West Kent Regiment

Marriage to Annie Carroll
1874 2 Mar Age: 23
St Marylebone

Occupation
1874 Age: 24
Ostler

Vital
1881 Age: 31
both possibly in Meaford Ontario,


Census
no records after 1874

Peter

Peter Report 26 Sep 2014 11:47

Thanks everyone,
Mike, father's names & trades tie up on bapt & marriage
. Margee nice find but Annie being a minor looks to be unlikely unless they upped her age to get out of the country. although the 1891 one looks about right for her. That isn't far from Meaford where there is a "possible" in 1881
Maddie tree on ancestry is either mine or sourced from mine (as has a spelling mistake in it :-) )

Maddie

Maddie Report 26 Sep 2014 12:00

1881 ????
Name: Alfred Packer
Gender: Male
Marital Status: Married
Age: 29
Birth Year: 1852
Birthplace: England
Religion: ENGLISH C
Nationality: ENGLISH
Occupation: Labourer
Province: Ontario
District Number: 155
District: Grey East
Sub-District Number: H
Subdistrict: Meaford
Household Members:
Name Age
Alfred Packer 29
Annie Packer 24
Walter Rouse 28
Matilda Rouse 25
Annie Rouse 1

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 26 Sep 2014 12:48

Actually over 100 miles between Meaford and Pickering.

Peter

Peter Report 26 Sep 2014 16:16

True but 100miles in Canadian terms is next door :-)