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Douglas William Dunbar b. 1909

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GinaS

GinaS Report 21 Sep 2014 10:38

Douglas William Dunbar b.1909 emigrated to Melbourne Australia in 1960, his profession a Gardner. His parents were William and Edith Dunbar nee Splane.

He was single when entering Australia - he was born in India but on the ships records he has his place of birth as Australia!.

I would love to know where he lived in Australia and when he died.

Regards, Gina

Maddie

Maddie Report 21 Sep 2014 10:54

he left in1955

UK, Outward Passenger Lists, 1890-1960 about Douglas William Dunbar
Name: Douglas William Dunbar
Gender: Male
Age: 46
Birth Date: abt 1909
Departure Date: 18 Feb 1955
Port of Departure: London, England
Destination Port: Melbourne, Australia
Ship Name: Himalaya
Search Ship Database: Search the 'Himalaya' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Shipping line: P and O Steam Navigation Company
Master: R E Freeman



Maddie

Maddie Report 21 Sep 2014 10:55


Fremantle, Western Australia, Passenger Lists, 1897-1963 about Douglas William Dunbar
Name: Douglas William Dunbar
Departure Place: London, United Kingdom
Arrival Date: 12 Mar 1955
Arrival Place: Fremantle, Western Australia, Australia
Vessel: Himalaya

going to 49 Arden Street Melbourne

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 21 Sep 2014 11:58

Sorry for being pedantic, but on the outgoing voyage it doesn't say he was BORN in Australia, it says Australia in response to "Country of which a citizen as shown on passport".

I would be mindful of this birth, just in case first names got reversed (as happens)

Australia Birth Index, 1788-1922
Name: William D Dunbar
Birth Date: 1909
Father's Name: William H Dunbar
Mother's name: Kathleen
Birth Place: New South Wales
Registration Year: 1909
Registration Place: Balmain North, New South Wales
Registration Number: 11790

Just in case those 1955 passenger lists relate to this man.

Flip

Flip Report 21 Sep 2014 12:15

The outgoing passenger list confirms his dob 20/7/1909, which matches the baptism in Karachi - so I would be pretty sure the 1955 record is correct.

Gee

Gee Report 21 Sep 2014 12:19


India, Select Births and Baptisms, 1786-1947


Name:Douglas William Dunbar

Gender:
Male

Birth Date:20 Jul 1909

Baptism Date:18 Aug 1909

Baptism Age:0

Baptism Place:Karachi, Bombay, India

Father:
William Dunbar

Mother:
Edith

FHL Film Number:523892


Edit: Not seeing him on the ER in Oz? Wonder if he went back to India

Gritty

Gritty Report 21 Sep 2014 13:08

Electoral Rolls, Victoria, Australia

SUBDIVISION OF NORTH MELBOURNE,1946

DOUGLAS WILLIAM DUNBAR 49 Arden Street, Gardener

others at the same address were:

Bessie May Dunbar Home duties
Gerald George Dunbar Process Worker

Gerald and Bessie remained in Australia and are on later electoral registers without Douglas

GinaS

GinaS Report 21 Sep 2014 13:16

Hi Gritty,

I think you have found him and his family - he must have married in Australia.
His father was in the British Army stationed in north India, now Pakistan. His mother Edith a sister of my grandfather.

One more question, would you have the address of where I could get his Death Cert or any clues as how I can trace his son Gerald.

Once again a huge Thank you,
Regards, Gina

GinaS

GinaS Report 21 Sep 2014 13:19

Hello Maddie, Marie Celeste, Flip and Gins, many thanks for your help,
Happy to say Gritty you brought me one stage further.

All the best, Gina

Flip

Flip Report 21 Sep 2014 13:20

I don't think Gerald is his son - to be eligible to vote in 1946 he must have been born 1925 or earlier....Douglas would have only been 14.

Added Gerald & Bessie were also at that address in 1943.

Gritty

Gritty Report 21 Sep 2014 13:22

It may not be the Douglas you are looking for- as I found this which could be the Gerald living with Douglas in 1946 (perhaps Douglas Brother??):

First Name Gerald George
Last Name Dunbar
Gender Male
Year 1978
Age 63
Est. Year Of Birth 1915
Father's Name William
Mother's Name Edith Splain
Death Place Prahran
State Victoria
Registration Number 28952
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records

Maddie

Maddie Report 21 Sep 2014 13:27


Australia Marriage Index, 1788-1950 about Gerald George Dunbar
Name: Gerald George Dunbar
Spouse Name: Bnessie May Bextream
Marriage Date: 1940
Marriage Place: New South Wales
Registration Place: Corowa, New South Wales
Registration Year: 1940
Registration Number: 7135


Australia Death Index, 1787-1985 about Gerald George Dunbar
Name: Gerald George Dunbar
Death Place: Prahran, Victoria
Age: 63
Father's Name: William
Mother's name: Edith Splain
Registration Year: 1978
Registration Place: Victoria
Registration Number: 28952
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1915

Maddie

Maddie Report 21 Sep 2014 13:30


Australia, Electoral Rolls, 1903-1980 about Gerald Georg Dunbar
Name: Gerald Georg Dunbar
Gender: Male
Electoral Year: 1968
State: Victoria
District: Bruce
Subdistrict: Jordanville

living with Bessie, he was a driver

GinaS

GinaS Report 21 Sep 2014 13:39

Hi Maddie,

It looks you have found another son of Edith Splaine and William Dunbar, - fantastic.

I need to find descendants of this family,

Regards, Gina

Maddie

Maddie Report 21 Sep 2014 13:40

in the 1943 elec roll he is living at 49 Arden Street, address Douglas was going to on his arrival
he was aged 49,

GinaS

GinaS Report 21 Sep 2014 13:46

Hi Maddie

Thank you so much,

Gina S

GinaS

GinaS Report 21 Sep 2014 13:50

Hi Flip, It looks like Gerald is his brother, I did not know about him until you all found him.

Many thanks,

Gina S

Gee

Gee Report 21 Sep 2014 14:58

Not sure if you already have the marriage of his parents?


India, Select Marriages, 1792-1948

Name:William Robert Dunbar

Gender:Male

Age:31

Birth Date:1866

Marriage Date:4 Feb 1897

Marriage Place:Fort Saint George, Madras, India

Father:
David Alexander Dunbar

Spouse:
Edith Splane

FHL Film Number:527458

Gee

Gee Report 21 Sep 2014 15:02

And two other possible siblings

Name: Aris Edith Dunbar
Mother: Edith
Father: William Dunbar
Birth: 13 Nov 1897 - Bengal, India
Baptism: 22 Dec 1897 - Mandalay, Bengal, India

Name: May Gertrude Dunbar
Mother: Edith
Father: William Robert Dunbar
Birth: 6 May 1906
Baptism: 12 Jun 1906 - Poona Mallee, Madras, India

Name: Avis Edith Dunbar
Spouse: Edgar Rees Richards
Father: William Robert Dunbar
Birth: 1898
Marriage: 23 Jun 1920 - Fort St. George, Madras, India


Gritty

Gritty Report 21 Sep 2014 15:06

Gerald's baptism

First name(s) Gerald George
Last name Dunbar
Birth year 1915
Baptism year 1915
Father's first name(s) -
Father's last name Dunbar
Place Madras,St Mary
Presidency Madras
Archive reference N-2-118
Folio 126
Parish register transcripts from the Presidency of Madras