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rootgatherer
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17 Sep 2014 16:40 |
Did you buy the marriage certificate then? Or what evidence did you find that made you change Alfred's birth year from 1896 in Lincolshire to1887 and possibly Cambridgeshire please.
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Chris Ho :)
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17 Sep 2014 15:57 |
http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1259529
(the 1916 Marriage Cert. will also help to find correct Laura M, hopefully!)
Chris :)
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17 Sep 2014 15:41 |
This John Hart?
Name: John Hart Gender: Male Baptism Date: 9 Nov 1755 Baptism Place: Eltisley,Cambridge,England Father: William Hart Mother: Mary FHL Film Number: 88600
There seems to be quite a few Hart families in Cambridgeshire. Not sure how you can be sure that you are following the correct line, unless of course you have wills or some other documentation to connect them as the direct line of your Alfred.
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17 Sep 2014 15:13 |
Thanks for all your help its all really helping me a lot!
Could anyone find out a bit more about John Hart born 1755 died 1800. 6th ancestor of Thomas Hart born 1605 died 1661. He was probabley born in Cambridgeshire, not 100% sure. Thank you :-D
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ChristinaS
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17 Sep 2014 14:28 |
You really need to buy the 1916 marriage certificate to confirm Alfred's father's name.
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rootgatherer
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17 Sep 2014 14:19 |
Name: John Hart Registration Year: 1843 Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar Registration district: Whittlesey Parishes for this Registration District: View Ecclesiastical Parishes associated with this Registration District Inferred County: Cambridgeshire Volume: 14 Page: 169 Records on Page: Name Valentine Bates John Hart Lydia Sudderick
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17 Sep 2014 14:06 |
1891
Name: Alfred Hart Age: 41 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1850 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Sarah E Hart Gender: Male Where born: Whittlesey, Cambridgeshire, England Civil Parish: Whittlesey Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary Town: Whittlesey County/Island: Cambridgeshire Country: England Street address:
Occupation: Plumber & Glazier & Boot & Shoe dealer
Condition as to marriage:
Education:
Employment status:
View image Registration district: Whittlesey Sub-registration district: Whittlesey ED, institution, or vessel: 5 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 1302 Folio: 60 Page Number: 19 Household Members: Name Age Alfred Hart 41 Sarah E Hart 42 Fred Hart 19 Herbert H Hart 15 Jessie A Hart 8 Alfred Hart 4 Charles Male 70, Father in Law Ruth Anker 15 Servant
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17 Sep 2014 13:58 |
1901
Name: Alfred Hart Age: 13 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1888 Relation to Head: Son Gender: Male Father: Alfred Hart Mother: Sarah E Hart Birth Place: Whittlesey, Cambridgeshire, England Civil Parish: Whittlesey Ecclesiastical parish: Whittlesey St Mary Town: Whittlesey County/Island: Cambridgeshire Country: England Street address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Education:
Employment status:
View image Registration district: Whittlesey Sub-registration district: Whittlesey ED, institution, or vessel: 5 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 1552 Folio: 77 Page Number: 22 Household schedule number: 163 Household Members: Name Age Alfred Hart 51, Plumber Sarah E Hart 52 Jessie Ann Hart 18 Alfred Hart 13
All born Whittlesey.
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Gee
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17 Sep 2014 13:34 |
I think the birth that Chris posted it very possibly 'your' Alfred
1911 England Census
Name:Alfred Hart
Age in 1911:23
Estimated Birth Year:abt 1888
Relation to Head:Boarder
Gender:Female
Birth Place:Whittlesey, Cambridgeshire, England
Civil Parish:New Sarum
County/Island:Wiltshire
Street address:59 Park Street, Salisbury
Marital Status:Single
Occupation:Jewellers Assistant
Registration district:Salisbury
Registration District Number:253 Sub-registration district:Salisbury
ED, institution, or vessel:3 Household schedule number:91 Piece:12106
Household Members:
Thomas W H Snelling 56 Agnes Kate Snelling 52 Elsie Kate Snelling 24 Agnes Bessie Snelling 20 Gilbert Harry Snelling 14 Gerald Marshall Snelling 12 Walter Snelling 11 Ronald William Snelling 5 William Henry Hurrell 42 Frederick George Nicholls 22 Alfred Hart 23 Ethel Emily Clifford You really need the 1916 marriage certificate and then the birth that Chris has posted.
I cant see a death for the above Alfred in a similar area to the census, so things are pointing to the death in 1941
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Chris Ho :)
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17 Sep 2014 13:19 |
Not unusual to find name changes as you go back...
Don't confuse yourself too much, work back from present with Certs., and then you need Parish Records, remembering, not all are online!.
Chris :)
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whobstu
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17 Sep 2014 13:14 |
I have managed to get back to 1575!!! (Thanks for the link Chris) But I've stopped because the name changes to Harte from Hart.... I'm so confused!!!!!!!!!!!! :-S
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whobstu
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17 Sep 2014 12:52 |
Chris one of those links you have sent has been really helpful, but it goes on and as it hit the 1500's our names change to the spelling of Harte. Which has really confused me now haha!
Gins the marriage details look correct.
What sort of details do you need Jacqueline?
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Jacqueline
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17 Sep 2014 12:35 |
If you'd been willing to give full details, I'd quite happily have looked at LIncs PR's for you
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Chris Ho :)
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17 Sep 2014 12:34 |
Burial County Lincolnshire Place Cleethorpes Church Municipal Cemetery RegisterNumber BurialDate 12 Nov 1941 Forename Alfred Relationship Rel1MaleForename Rel1FemaleForename Rel1Surname Surname HART Age 54 Abode Seaview St Notes Died 07 Nov 1941 Grimsby Hospital
(above on below)
http://www.freereg.org.uk/cgi/Search.pl
Chris :)
Births Jun 1887 (>99%) -------------------------------------------- Hart Alfred Whittlesey 3b 596
(possibly above?)
National Burial Index for England & Wales Transcription (Find My Past) First name(s) LAURA MINNIE Last name HART Birth year 1890 Death year 1967 Age 77 Burial year 1967 Burial day 12 Burial month 12 Place CLEETHORPES Church description CEMETERY Church denomination CEMETERY County Lincolnshire Country England
Births Dec 1890 (>99%) ----------------------------------------------- Bailey Laura Minnie Stone 6b 23
(above 1911 Grimsby, Lincs. Parents, James and Maria, her Occ. Shorthand Typist Clerk)
Births Mar 1893 (>99%) ------------------------------------------------------ Bailey Laura Manie Loughbro' 7a 131
(above 1911 Leics. Parents William and Sharlot (as Charlotte 1901) her Occ. Hosiery Mender)
(above possibles)
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Gee
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17 Sep 2014 12:26 |
Have you got Alfred and Laura's marriage certificate to check the details
England & Wales, Marriage Index, 1916-2005
Name:Alfred Hart
Spouse Surname:Laura M Bailey
Date of Registration:Jul-Aug-Sep 1916
Registration district:Grimsby
Inferred County:Lincolnshire
Volume Number:7a
Page Number:1293
Alfred may have lived in Lincs but there is no birth registered there using the details that you have given
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Gee
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17 Sep 2014 12:17 |
Hi
Is this your G grandfather's Probate?
England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1966
Name:Alfred Hart of 6 Sea View Street
Probate Date:11 Mar 1942
Death Date:7 Nov 1941
Death Place:Lincolnshire, England
Registry:Lincolnshire, England Probate to: Charles Henry Hart - Builder £716
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Chris Ho :)
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17 Sep 2014 11:54 |
http://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Hart-3968
(on above, from google search)
http://www.freereg.org.uk/cgi/Search.pl
(might be useful above)
Chris :)
John Hart's Parents? - Genes Reunited www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1328103?page...
16 Jul 2013 - 9 posts - ?4 authors According to the 41 census Sarah Sr. was 45, Sarah Jr. 20 and John 15 but take ... I believe his parents were Richard Hart and Sarah Godbill.
Error Thread does not exist
(somebody had above)
http://www.cfhs.org.uk/searchbs.cfm
(above has Parish Records, Whittlesey, think I added before, somewhere!)
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whobstu
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17 Sep 2014 11:51 |
Margee - His son WIlliam Hart 1763
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MargaretM
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17 Sep 2014 11:42 |
From which child of Richard Hart 1732 do you descend?
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Jacqueline
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17 Sep 2014 11:32 |
Not exactly detailed info, gems.
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