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littlelegs

littlelegs Report 7 Sep 2014 17:10

hi all
just wondering if anyone can help please

1881 census which i have
elizabeth widdowson age 46 [widow]
walter 1861 born nottingham
edward 1864
robert 1867
kate 1869
annie 1872
lindley[or lyndley ]1876

now these four children have put down they were born in france can anyone find when they went to france or when they came back

elizabeth was born in nottingham in about 1836 she was married to william widdowson who died before the 1881 census

thank you
lorraine

Mistycat

Mistycat Report 7 Sep 2014 17:25

All children born Nottinghamshire on this one


1871 England
Name: Kate Widdowson
Age: 2
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1869
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: William Widdowson
Mother's name: Elizabeth Widdowson
Gender: Female
Where born: Nottinghamshire, England
Civil Parish: St Mary
Ecclesiastical parish: St Paul
Town: Nottingham
County/Island: Nottinghamshire
Country: England
Registration district: Nottingham
Sub-registration district: Byron
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Household schedule number: 41
Piece: 3521
Folio: 9
Page Number: 9
Household Members:
Name Age
William Widdowson 37
Elizabeth Widdowson 36
Eliza Widdowson 18
William Widdowson 16
Walter Widdowson 10
Edward Widdowson 7
Robert Widdowson 4
Kate Widdowson 2

Misty x

greyghost

greyghost Report 7 Sep 2014 17:26

Just for our info

1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
9, Rancliffe Terrace Pym Street, Nottingham St Mary, Nottingham, Nottinghamshire, England

Print household transcription Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Elizabeth Widdowson Head Widow Female 46 1835 Housekeeper Nottingham, Nottinghamshire,
Walter Widdowson Son Single Male 20 1861 Hosiery Hand Nottingham, Nottinghamshire,
Edward Widdowson Son Single Male 17 1864 Machine Hand (Lace) Nottingham, Nottinghamshire,
Robert Widdowson Son Single Male 14 1867 Cotton Winder France
Kate Widdowson Daughter Single Female 12 1869 Scholar France
Annie Widdowson Daughter Single Female 9 1872 Scholar France
Lyndley Widdowson Son Single Male 5 1876 Scholar France

All French births said to be in Calais

littlelegs

littlelegs Report 7 Sep 2014 17:30

thank you very much
just cant make out why they said they were born france because they are in nottingham in 1871 and 1881

would they have not been in france in the 1871 if those children were born there

Mistycat

Mistycat Report 7 Sep 2014 17:31

Can only see one Lindley and would appear born in Nottingham....

Name: Lindley Widdowson
Registration Year: 1875
Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep
Registration district: Nottingham
Parishes for this Registration District: View Ecclesiastical Parishes associated with this Registration District
Inferred County: Nottinghamshire
Volume: 7b
Page: 280

Misty x

greyghost

greyghost Report 7 Sep 2014 17:33

WIDDOWSON LINDLEY 1875 — 1875 England & Wales births 1837-2006 Nottingham, Nottinghamshire, England

The only Lindley Widdowson birth showing in UK 1875 +/- 2years so would think it's the same one

littlelegs

littlelegs Report 7 Sep 2014 17:33

thank you mistycat and greyghost

Catherine

Catherine Report 7 Sep 2014 17:37

Could this be Kate?

Name: Sarah Kate Widdowson
Event Type: Birth Registration
Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration Year: 1868
Registration District: Nottingham
County: Nottinghamshire
Event Place: Nottingham, Nottinghamshire, England
Volume: 7B
Page: 253
Line Number: 135

Catherine

Catherine Report 7 Sep 2014 17:40

1901 Robert gives his place of birth as France again:-

Name: Robert Widdowson
Event Type: Census
Event Date: 31 Mar 1901
Gender: Male
Age: 34
Relationship to Head of Household: Head
Birthplace: France British Subject
Schedule Type: Household
Registration District: Nottingham
Sub-District: Bulwell
Ecclesiastical Parish: Old Basford St Leodegarius With Cinder Hill Christ Church
Civil Parish: Nottingham
District/Parish/County: Nottinghamshire

Catherine

Catherine Report 7 Sep 2014 17:42

ancestry version of 1881 show birth place as Calais for Robert:-

1881 England Census about Robert Widdowson
Name: Robert Widdowson
Age: 14
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1867
Relationship to Head: Son
Mother: Elizabeth Widdowson
Gender: Male
Where born: Calais (B S), France
Civil Parish: Nottingham St Mary
County/Island: Nottinghamshire
Country: England
Street address: 9 Rancliffe Terrace Pym Street

Occupation: Cotton Winder
Registration district: Nottingham
Sub-registration district: Byron
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 3358
Folio: 64
Page Number: 43
Household Members:
Name Age
Elizabeth Widdowson 46
Walter Widdowson 20
Edward Widdowson 17
Robert Widdowson 14
Kate Widdowson 12
Annie Widdowson 9
Lyndley Widdowson 5

..same for Kate, Annie and Lyndley.

greyghost

greyghost Report 7 Sep 2014 17:44

There doesn't appear to be a birth registration to fit Robert 1867 unless really misspelt. There is an 1867 Robert but Basford RD and he appears to be on the 1871 in Codnor and Lascoe, Derbys which would be Basford RD

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 7 Sep 2014 17:46

According to 1911 census, Lindley was born specifically in St Anne, Nottinghamshire - and Notts consistently in other censuses.



1891 England Census about Lindley Widdowson
Name: Lindley Widdowson
Age: 15
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1876
Relation: Son
Mother's name: Elizabeth Widdowson
Gender: Male
Where born: Nottinghamshire, England
Civil Parish: St Mary
Ecclesiastical parish: St Catherine
Town: Nottingham
County/Island: Nottinghamshire
Country: England

Registration district: Nottingham
Sub-registration district: Nottingham North East
ED, institution, or vessel: 37
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 2699
Folio: 27
Page Number: 1
Household Members:
Name Age
Elizabeth Widdowson 56
Edwin Widdowson 28
Annie Widdowson 19
Lindley Widdowson 15



1901 England Census about Lindley Widdowson
Name: Lindley Widdowson
Age: 25
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1876
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Spouse: Eliza A Widdowson
Birth Place: Nottingham, Nottinghamshire, England
Civil Parish: Nottingham
Ecclesiastical parish: St Stephen
Town: Nottingham
County/Island: Nottinghamshire
Country: England
Registration district: Nottingham
Sub-registration district: Nottingham South East
ED, institution, or vessel: 22
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 3171
Folio: 68
Page Number: 4
Household schedule number: 28



1911 England Census about Lindley Widdowson
Name: Lindley Widdowson
Age in 1911: 35
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1876
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Birth Place: St Anne, Nottinghamshire, England
Civil Parish: Nottingham
County/Island: Nottinghamshire
Country: England
Street address: 72 Whittier Road Sneinton
Marital Status: Married
Occupation: Labourer
Registration district: Nottingham
Registration District Number: 430
Sub-registration district: Nottingham South East
ED, institution, or vessel: 15
Piece: 20528
Household Members:
Name Age
Lindley Widdowson 35
Eliza Widdowson 35
Florence Widdowson 14
Doris Widdowson 5
Household Members:
Name Age
Lindley Widdowson 25
Eliza A Widdowson 24
Florence H Widdowson 4

MaureeninNY

MaureeninNY Report 7 Sep 2014 17:47

Interesting history about the lace makers of Calais and those of Nottiingham.

Maureen

Mistycat

Mistycat Report 7 Sep 2014 17:50

? with Annie Both born France

Address....The Orphanage

1891 England Census
Name: Beatrice Widdowson
Age: 11
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1880
Gender: Female
Where born: France
Civil Parish: Beeston
Ecclesiastical parish: Carrington St John
Town: Carrington
County/Island: Nottinghamshire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

View image
Registration district: Basford
Sub-registration district: Basford

Beatrice Widdowson 11
Annie Widdowson 13


Misty x

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 7 Sep 2014 17:57

Robert born in France also in 1911. It also says "British subject by parentage":


1911 England Census about Robert Widdowson
Name: Robert Widdowson
Age in 1911: 44
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1867
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Birth Place: France
Civil Parish: Belper
County/Island: Derbyshire
Country: England
Street address: Prospect House Nurseries Belper
Marital Status: Married
Occupation: Nursery Man
Registration district: Belper
Registration District Number: 436
Sub-registration district: Belper
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Piece: 20970
Household Members:
Name Age
Robert Widdowson 44
May Widdowson 19
Norman Widdowson 6
Elizabeth Widdowson 43


Also France in 1891 (but different wife):


1891 England Census about Robert Widdowson
Name: Robert Widdowson
Age: 24
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1867
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Sarah Widdowson
Gender: Male
Where born: France
Civil Parish: St Mary
Ecclesiastical parish: St Ann
Town: Nottingham
County/Island: Nottinghamshire
Country: England
Registration district: Nottingham
Sub-registration district: Nottingham North East
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 2693
Folio: 134
Page Number: 17
Household Members:
Name Age
Robert Widdowson 24
Sarah Widdowson 23
Harold Widdowson 1


Marriages Jun 1889 (>99%)
Hornbuckle Sarah Elizabeth Nottingham 7b 490
Widdowson Robert Nottingham 7b 490

Can't see Sarah's death, unless the registrar got her age badly wrong:
Deaths Sep 1894 (>99%)
WIDDOWSON Sarah 60 Basford 7b 80


Marriages Sep 1895 (>99%)
Grainger Elizabeth Basford 7b 247
Widdowson Robert Basford 7b 247

littlelegs

littlelegs Report 7 Sep 2014 18:17

wow thank you so so much :-D <3

lorraine

Mistycat

Mistycat Report 7 Sep 2014 18:38

In workhouse infirmary

1911 England Census
Name: Elizabeth Widdowson
Age in 1911: 75
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1836
Relation to Head: Patient*******
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Nottingham, Nottinghamshire, England
Civil Parish: Nottingham
County/Island: Nottinghamshire
Country: England
Marital Status: Widowed
Occupation: Housework
Registration district: Nottingham


Name: Elizabeth Widdowson
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1836
Registration Year: 1911
Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun
Age at Death: 75
Registration district: Nottingham
Inferred County: Nottinghamshire
Volume: 7b
Page: 175

Misty x

Mistycat

Mistycat Report 7 Sep 2014 18:43

If you Google.....

Widdowson lacemakers Nottingham and Calais, brings up some bits you may be interested in

Misty x

littlelegs

littlelegs Report 7 Sep 2014 20:06

thank you very much