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6 Sep 2014 16:04 |
Trying to find out who was Elizabeth was she died Jan 1922 and was married to James Harry Hopkins in i think Sussex. Found her memorial card in some family papers wondering who these two where.
Thanks for any help u can give
Barry :-)
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6 Sep 2014 16:15 |
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1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Posingford Hartfield Tunbridge Wells, Hartfield, Sussex, England Print household transcription Household Members First name(s) Last name Relationship to household head Marital condition Gender Age Birth year Birth place Occupation James Harry Hopkins Head Married Male 45 1866 Milton Cambs Farm Baliff Image Transcription Elizabeth Hopkins Wife Married Female 44 1867 Haslingfield Cambs - Image Transcription Horace Hopkins Son - Male 17 1894 Fulham Cambs Agriculturallabourer Image Transcription Sidney Hopkins Son - Male 14 1897 Fulham Cambs School Image Transcription Walter Hopkins Son - Male 12 1899 Fulham Cambs School Image Transcription Daniel Harry Hopkins Son - Male 8 1903 Utimpole Herts -
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6 Sep 2014 16:18 |
England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1966
Name:Elizabeth Hopkins ..Widow
Probate Date: 23 Feb 1922
Death Date: 1 Feb 1922
Death Place: Leeds, West Yorkshire, England
Registry: Wakefield To: George Hopkins - fitter £197
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6 Sep 2014 16:23 |
does any one know her maiden name?
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6 Sep 2014 16:25 |
1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Hoback Farm, Cambridge Road, Wimpole, Caxton, Cambridgeshire, England Print household transcription Household Members First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place Harry Hopkins Head Married Male 37 1864 Stockman On Farm Milton, Cambridgeshire, England Image Transcription Elizabeth Hopkins Wife Married Female 35 1866 - Haslingfield, Cambridgeshire, England Image Transcription Mary Hopkins Daughter Single Female 9 1892 Scholar Fulbourn, Cambridgeshire, England Image Transcription Horace Hopkins Son Single Male 7 1894 Scholar Fulbourn, Cambridgeshire, England Image Transcription Sidney Hopkins Son Single Male 4 1897 Scholar Fulbourn, Cambridgeshire, England Image Transcription Walter Hopkins Son Single Male 2 1899 - Fulbourn, Cambridgeshire, England
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6 Sep 2014 16:31 |
You'd need on of the birth certs of children to confirm maiden name
I think this one is worth considering
Marriages Mar 1887 (>99%) BARNARD Isabel Elizabeth Chesterton 3b 563
Hopkins James Harry Chesterton 3b 563
1891 England Census about James H Hopkins Name: James H Hopkins Age: 25 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1866 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Isabella E Hopkins Gender: Male Where born: Milton, Cambridgeshire, England Civil Parish: Fulbourn Ecclesiastical parish: All Saints and St Vigors County/Island: Cambridgeshire Country: England Street address:
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Education:
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View image Registration district: Chesterton Sub-registration district: Fulbourn ED, institution, or vessel: 7 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 1281 Folio: 54 Page Number: 43 Household Members: Name Age James H Hopkins 25 Isabella E Hopkins 23 Netty J Hopkins 3 Dorothy M Hopkins 1
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6 Sep 2014 16:34 |
Netty not with family in 1901
1901 England Census about Nettie J Hopkins Name: Nettie J Hopkins Age: 14 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1887 Relation to Head: Servant Gender: Female Birth Place: Milton, Cambridgeshire, England
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6 Sep 2014 16:37 |
Dorothy was also a servant by 1901
1901 England Census about Dorothy Hopkins Name: Dorothy Hopkins Age: 13 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1888 Relation to Head: Servant Gender: Female Birth Place: Cherry Hinton, Cambridgeshire, England Civil Parish: Wimpole Ecclesiastical parish: Wimpole St Andrew Town: Wimploe County/Island: Cambridgeshire Country: England Street address:
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View image Registration district: Caxton Sub-registration district: Caxton ED, institution, or vessel: 18 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 1521 Folio: 63 Page Number: 12 Household schedule number: 22 Household Members: Name Age George Hacklesby 30 Elizabeth Hacklesby 30 William Hacklesby 3 Constance Hacklesby 1 Dorothy Hopkins 13 View Original Record
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6 Sep 2014 16:50 |
1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription The Vicarage, Whaddon, Whaddon (Cambs), Royston, Hertfordshire, England Print household transcription Household Members First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place John Gough Eames Head Married Male 62 1839 Clergyman Church Of England Ireland Image Transcription Ann Katharine Eames Wife Married Female 51 1850 - Wigan, Lancashire, England Image Transcription John Wallace Eames Son Single Male 18 1883 - Gloucestershire, England Image Transcription Leigh Fairfax Eames Son Single Male 13 1888 - Berkshire, England Image Transcription Alice K Violet Eames Niece Single Female 30 1871 - Ireland Image Transcription Franci M L Eames Niece Single Female 25 1876 - Ireland Image Transcription Edith A de La Lady House Keeper Single Female 37 1864 Lady House Keeper Islington, Middlesex, England Image Transcription Ada M Butter Servant Single Female 17 1884 House Maid (Domestic) Haslingfield, Cambridgeshire, England Image Transcription Nettie J Hopkins Servant Single Female 14 1887 Kitchen Maid (Domestic) Milton, Cambridgeshire, England
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6 Sep 2014 16:52 |
No further details of 1887 Marriage, other than place, Milton, Cambs. (from Cambridgeshire Marriage Index)
Haslingfield. Cambs. All Saints. Baptism
1871 Feb 5 Barnard Isabel Elizabeth dau of John & Hamutal otp lab (born 3 Dec 1870)
Chris :)
Cambridgeshire Baptisms Transcription (Find My Past) First Name JAMES HARRY Last Name HOPKINS Abode otp Place MILTON Mother's Given Name Sarah Father's First Name William Father occupation lab County Cambridgeshire
Baptism First Name WALTER Last Name HOPKINS Birth date 18 Feb 6 Abode of Cullum's Farm Fulbourn Place CHERRY HINTON Mother's Given Name Isabella Elizabeth Father's First Name James Harry Father occupation lab
Baptism First Name DANIEL HARRY Last Name HOPKINS Birth date 19 Jan 14 Abode otp Place WIMPOLE Mother's Given Name Elizabeth Father's First Name James Henry Father occupation lab
edits (for 1871 below Barnard)
Baptism also Haslingfield for Fred Barnard 1868 July 5 (born 19 Feb 1868)
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6 Sep 2014 17:00 |
This looks like the family in the 1871 census:-
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
John Barnard Head - Male 41 1830 - Cambridgeshire, England Mutial Barnard Wife - Female 39 1832 - Cambridgeshire, England Charles Barnard Son - Male 12 1859 - Cambridgeshire, England Thoms Barnard Son - Male 9 1862 - Cambridgeshire, England Robert Barnard Son - Male 7 1864 - Cambridgeshire, England William Barnard Son - Male 5 1866 - Cambridgeshire, England Fread Barnard Son - Male 3 1868 - Cambridgeshire, England Elizebth Barnard Daughter - Female 4 1867 - Cambridgeshire, England<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Address given as:- Near the Church, Haslingfield, Chesterton, Cambridgeshire,
Perhaps she was known by her middle name but this would mean that the date of birth given on the baptism is wrong as the date of birth given here matches up with Elizabeth's age on the 1911 census.
Kath. x
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6 Sep 2014 17:04 |
A curve ball
1881 England Census
Name:George Hopkins
Age:20
Estimated Birth Year:abt 1861
Relationship to Head:Son
Father:Joseph Hopkins
Mother:Elizabeth Hopkins
Gender:Male
Where born:Ardwick, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish:Openshaw
County/Island:Lancashire
Street address:12 Gorton Rd Occupation:Engine Fitter <<<<<< the Geo on the probate is a fitter
Registration district:Chorlton
Sub-registration district:Ardwick
ED, institution, or vessel:61
Piece:3907
Folio:56
Page Number:12
Household Members:
Joseph Hopkins 41 Elizabeth Hopkins 42 George Hopkins 20 Cornelius Hopkins 18 Joseph Hopkins 15 John Hopkins 13 James Hopkins 10 William Hopkins 7 Robert Hopkins 2 Henry Hopkins
The this is the same address that is on Elizabeth's Probate record
1911 England Census
Name:Joseph Hopkins <<Not James H though?
Age in 1911:70
Estimated Birth Year:abt 1841
Relation to Head:Head
Gender:Male
Birth Place:Manchester, Lancaster, England
Civil Parish:Leeds
County/Island:Yorkshire-West Riding
Street address:51 Jackson Ave Roundhay Leeds <<<<<<<<<
Marital Status:Married
Occupation:Retired Blacksmith
Registration district:Leeds
Registration District Number:500
Sub-registration district:North Leeds
ED, institution, or vessel:32
Piece:26975
Household Members:
Joseph Hopkins 70 Elizabeth Hopkins 72 William Hopkins 37 Richard Hopkins 12 Added
1911 England Census
Name:George Hopkins
Age in 1911:50
Estimated Birth Year:abt 1861
Relation to Head:Head
Gender:Male
Birth Place:Ardwick, Manchester
Civil Parish:Holbeck
County/Island:Yorkshire-West Riding
Street address:70 Parkfield Grove Beeston Leeds
Marital Status:Married
Occupation:Fitter <<<<<<<<<<<<
Registration district:Holbeck
Registration District Number:502
Sub-registration district:Holbeck
ED, institution, or vessel:4
Piece:27180
Household Members:
George Hopkins 50 Emma Hopkins 48 Alice Hopkins 24 Joseph Hopkins 22 George Hopkins 18 Ada Hopkins 17 Nellie Hopkins 15 Bertha Hopkins 12
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KathleenBell
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6 Sep 2014 17:05 |
This looks like Elizabeth's parent's marriage:-
First name(s) JOHN Last name BARNARD Marriage quarter 4 Marriage year 1854 Registration month - MarriageFinder™ JOHN BARNARD married one of these people ****HAMUTAL NEWMAN****, ANN FINKELL Spouse's last name - District CHESTERTON District number - County Cambridgeshire Country England Volume 3B Page 1043
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Barry
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6 Sep 2014 17:08 |
Dont know any off these?? thought Elizabeth was a Woodhams from Sussex?
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6 Sep 2014 17:19 |
Barry you say she died 1922 where was that please?
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6 Sep 2014 18:10 |
Barry
On that memorial card, does it state who James Harry is, in respect of relationship?
I'm just wondering if he was a son?
It's too much of a coincidence that there was an Elizabeth Hopkins, living at the same address in 1911 and the Probate for her has the same address
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6 Sep 2014 19:00 |
Deaths Mar 1945 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------- Hopkins James H 79 Tonbridge 2a 1456
16 February 1945 - Kent & Sussex Courier - Tunbridge Wells, Kent,
HARTFIELD The death occurred at the Kent and Sussex Hospital on Thursday Mr. James Harry Hopkins, of Upper Hartfield. A native of Cambridge, the deceased gentleman was farm bailiff, living at Possingford Farm from 1910 to 1930. The next four years were spent at the Five Hundred on the De La Warr Estate, and in 1934 he retired to Upper Hartfield. He was in his 80th year, and is survived by two daughters and five sons, the youngest of whom is serving in Italy. Mrs. Hopkins passed away in 1922, and it was in an adjoining grave in the churchyard that Mr. Hopkins was laid to rest.
13 January 1922 - Kent & Sussex Courier - Tunbridge Wells, Kent,
RETURN THANKS. HOPKINS.—Mr. Hopkins and Family, of Posingford Farm. Hartfield, wish to offer their thanks to all friends for flowers and kind sympathy in their recent sad bereavement.
Chris :)
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7 Sep 2014 08:28 |
'Green Ticked', take it info. ok then!, any idea how Woodhams relate?...
Chris :)
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Barry
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7 Sep 2014 11:12 |
thanks every one dont think its a family member could be friends or neighbors
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