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Elizabeth.....who?

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Barry

Barry Report 6 Sep 2014 16:04

Trying to find out who was Elizabeth was she died Jan 1922 and was married to
James Harry Hopkins in i think Sussex.
Found her memorial card in some family papers wondering who these two where.

Thanks for any help u can give

Barry :-)

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safc

safc Report 6 Sep 2014 16:15

????

1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Posingford Hartfield Tunbridge Wells, Hartfield, Sussex, England
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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship to household head Marital condition Gender Age Birth year Birth place Occupation
James Harry Hopkins Head Married Male 45 1866 Milton Cambs Farm Baliff
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Elizabeth Hopkins Wife Married Female 44 1867 Haslingfield Cambs -
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Horace Hopkins Son - Male 17 1894 Fulham Cambs Agriculturallabourer
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Sidney Hopkins Son - Male 14 1897 Fulham Cambs School
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Walter Hopkins Son - Male 12 1899 Fulham Cambs School
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Daniel Harry Hopkins Son - Male 8 1903 Utimpole Herts -

Gee

Gee Report 6 Sep 2014 16:18


England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1966


Name:Elizabeth Hopkins ..Widow

Probate Date:
23 Feb 1922

Death Date:
1 Feb 1922

Death Place:
Leeds, West Yorkshire, England

Registry:
Wakefield

To: George Hopkins - fitter £197

Barry

Barry Report 6 Sep 2014 16:23

does any one know her maiden
name?

safc

safc Report 6 Sep 2014 16:25

1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Hoback Farm, Cambridge Road, Wimpole, Caxton, Cambridgeshire, England
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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Harry Hopkins Head Married Male 37 1864 Stockman On Farm Milton, Cambridgeshire, England
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Elizabeth Hopkins Wife Married Female 35 1866 - Haslingfield, Cambridgeshire, England
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Mary Hopkins Daughter Single Female 9 1892 Scholar Fulbourn, Cambridgeshire, England
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Horace Hopkins Son Single Male 7 1894 Scholar Fulbourn, Cambridgeshire, England
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Sidney Hopkins Son Single Male 4 1897 Scholar Fulbourn, Cambridgeshire, England
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Walter Hopkins Son Single Male 2 1899 - Fulbourn, Cambridgeshire, England

Rambling

Rambling Report 6 Sep 2014 16:31

You'd need on of the birth certs of children to confirm maiden name

I think this one is worth considering

Marriages Mar 1887 (>99%)
BARNARD Isabel Elizabeth Chesterton 3b 563

Hopkins James Harry Chesterton 3b 563



1891 England Census about James H Hopkins
Name: James H Hopkins
Age: 25
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1866
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Isabella E Hopkins
Gender: Male
Where born: Milton, Cambridgeshire, England
Civil Parish: Fulbourn
Ecclesiastical parish: All Saints and St Vigors
County/Island: Cambridgeshire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: Chesterton
Sub-registration district: Fulbourn
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 1281
Folio: 54
Page Number: 43
Household Members:
Name Age
James H Hopkins 25
Isabella E Hopkins 23
Netty J Hopkins 3
Dorothy M Hopkins 1

Rambling

Rambling Report 6 Sep 2014 16:34

Netty not with family in 1901

1901 England Census about Nettie J Hopkins
Name: Nettie J Hopkins
Age: 14
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1887
Relation to Head: Servant
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Milton, Cambridgeshire, England

Rambling

Rambling Report 6 Sep 2014 16:37

Dorothy was also a servant by 1901

1901 England Census about Dorothy Hopkins
Name: Dorothy Hopkins
Age: 13
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1888
Relation to Head: Servant
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Cherry Hinton, Cambridgeshire, England
Civil Parish: Wimpole
Ecclesiastical parish: Wimpole St Andrew
Town: Wimploe
County/Island: Cambridgeshire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: Caxton
Sub-registration district: Caxton
ED, institution, or vessel: 18
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 1521
Folio: 63
Page Number: 12
Household schedule number: 22
Household Members:
Name Age
George Hacklesby 30
Elizabeth Hacklesby 30
William Hacklesby 3
Constance Hacklesby 1
Dorothy Hopkins 13
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safc

safc Report 6 Sep 2014 16:50

1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
The Vicarage, Whaddon, Whaddon (Cambs), Royston, Hertfordshire, England
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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
John Gough Eames Head Married Male 62 1839 Clergyman Church Of England Ireland
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Ann Katharine Eames Wife Married Female 51 1850 - Wigan, Lancashire, England
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John Wallace Eames Son Single Male 18 1883 - Gloucestershire, England
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Leigh Fairfax Eames Son Single Male 13 1888 - Berkshire, England
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Alice K Violet Eames Niece Single Female 30 1871 - Ireland
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Franci M L Eames Niece Single Female 25 1876 - Ireland
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Edith A de La Lady House Keeper Single Female 37 1864 Lady House Keeper Islington, Middlesex, England
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Ada M Butter Servant Single Female 17 1884 House Maid (Domestic) Haslingfield, Cambridgeshire, England
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Nettie J Hopkins Servant Single Female 14 1887 Kitchen Maid (Domestic) Milton, Cambridgeshire, England

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 6 Sep 2014 16:52

No further details of 1887 Marriage, other than place, Milton, Cambs. (from Cambridgeshire Marriage Index)

Haslingfield. Cambs. All Saints.
Baptism

1871 Feb 5 Barnard Isabel Elizabeth dau of John & Hamutal otp lab (born 3 Dec 1870)

Chris :)

Cambridgeshire Baptisms Transcription (Find My Past)
First Name JAMES HARRY
Last Name HOPKINS
Abode otp
Place MILTON
Mother's Given Name Sarah
Father's First Name William
Father occupation lab
County Cambridgeshire


Baptism
First Name WALTER
Last Name HOPKINS
Birth date 18 Feb 6
Abode of Cullum's Farm Fulbourn
Place CHERRY HINTON
Mother's Given Name Isabella Elizabeth
Father's First Name James Harry
Father occupation lab

Baptism
First Name DANIEL HARRY
Last Name HOPKINS
Birth date 19 Jan 14
Abode otp
Place WIMPOLE
Mother's Given Name Elizabeth
Father's First Name James Henry
Father occupation lab

edits (for 1871 below Barnard)

Baptism also Haslingfield for Fred Barnard 1868 July 5 (born 19 Feb 1868)

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 6 Sep 2014 17:00

This looks like the family in the 1871 census:-

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place

John Barnard Head - Male 41 1830 - Cambridgeshire, England
Mutial Barnard Wife - Female 39 1832 - Cambridgeshire, England
Charles Barnard Son - Male 12 1859 - Cambridgeshire, England
Thoms Barnard Son - Male 9 1862 - Cambridgeshire, England
Robert Barnard Son - Male 7 1864 - Cambridgeshire, England
William Barnard Son - Male 5 1866 - Cambridgeshire, England
Fread Barnard Son - Male 3 1868 - Cambridgeshire, England
Elizebth Barnard Daughter - Female 4 1867 - Cambridgeshire, England<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

Address given as:- Near the Church, Haslingfield, Chesterton, Cambridgeshire,

Perhaps she was known by her middle name but this would mean that the date of birth given on the baptism is wrong as the date of birth given here matches up with Elizabeth's age on the 1911 census.

Kath. x

Gee

Gee Report 6 Sep 2014 17:04

A curve ball



1881 England Census

Name:George Hopkins

Age:20

Estimated Birth Year:abt 1861

Relationship to Head:Son

Father:Joseph Hopkins

Mother:Elizabeth Hopkins

Gender:Male

Where born:Ardwick, Lancashire, England

Civil Parish:Openshaw

County/Island:Lancashire


Street address:12 Gorton Rd

Occupation:Engine Fitter <<<<<< the Geo on the probate is a fitter

Registration district:Chorlton

Sub-registration district:Ardwick

ED, institution, or vessel:61


Piece:3907

Folio:56

Page Number:12

Household Members:


Joseph Hopkins 41
Elizabeth Hopkins 42
George Hopkins 20
Cornelius Hopkins 18
Joseph Hopkins 15
John Hopkins 13
James Hopkins 10
William Hopkins 7
Robert Hopkins 2
Henry Hopkins


The this is the same address that is on Elizabeth's Probate record



1911 England Census


Name:Joseph Hopkins <<Not James H though?

Age in 1911:70

Estimated Birth Year:abt 1841

Relation to Head:Head

Gender:Male

Birth Place:Manchester, Lancaster, England

Civil Parish:Leeds

County/Island:Yorkshire-West Riding

Street address:51 Jackson Ave Roundhay Leeds <<<<<<<<<

Marital Status:Married

Occupation:Retired Blacksmith

Registration district:Leeds

Registration District Number:500

Sub-registration district:North Leeds

ED, institution, or vessel:32

Piece:26975

Household Members:


Joseph Hopkins 70
Elizabeth Hopkins 72
William Hopkins 37
Richard Hopkins 12


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1911 England Census

Name:George Hopkins

Age in 1911:50

Estimated Birth Year:abt 1861

Relation to Head:Head

Gender:Male

Birth Place:Ardwick, Manchester

Civil Parish:Holbeck

County/Island:Yorkshire-West Riding

Street address:70 Parkfield Grove Beeston Leeds

Marital Status:Married

Occupation:Fitter <<<<<<<<<<<<

Registration district:Holbeck

Registration District Number:502

Sub-registration district:Holbeck

ED, institution, or vessel:4

Piece:27180

Household Members:


George Hopkins 50
Emma Hopkins 48
Alice Hopkins 24
Joseph Hopkins 22
George Hopkins 18
Ada Hopkins 17
Nellie Hopkins 15
Bertha Hopkins 12


KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 6 Sep 2014 17:05

This looks like Elizabeth's parent's marriage:-

First name(s) JOHN
Last name BARNARD
Marriage quarter 4
Marriage year 1854
Registration month -
MarriageFinder™ JOHN BARNARD married one of these people
****HAMUTAL NEWMAN****, ANN FINKELL
Spouse's last name -
District CHESTERTON
District number -
County Cambridgeshire
Country England
Volume 3B
Page 1043

Kath. x

Barry

Barry Report 6 Sep 2014 17:08

Dont know any off these?? thought Elizabeth was a Woodhams from Sussex?

Rambling

Rambling Report 6 Sep 2014 17:19

Barry you say she died 1922 where was that please?

Gee

Gee Report 6 Sep 2014 18:10

Barry

On that memorial card, does it state who James Harry is, in respect of relationship?

I'm just wondering if he was a son?

It's too much of a coincidence that there was an Elizabeth Hopkins, living at the same address in 1911 and the Probate for her has the same address

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 6 Sep 2014 19:00

Deaths Mar 1945 (>99%)
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Hopkins James H 79 Tonbridge 2a 1456


16 February 1945 - Kent & Sussex Courier - Tunbridge Wells, Kent,

HARTFIELD
The death occurred at the Kent and Sussex Hospital on Thursday Mr. James Harry Hopkins, of Upper Hartfield. A native of Cambridge, the deceased gentleman was farm bailiff, living at Possingford Farm from 1910 to 1930. The next four years were spent at the Five Hundred on the De La Warr Estate, and in 1934 he retired to Upper Hartfield. He was in his 80th year, and is survived by two daughters and five sons, the youngest of whom is serving in Italy.
Mrs. Hopkins passed away in 1922, and it was in an adjoining grave in the churchyard that Mr. Hopkins was laid to rest.


13 January 1922 - Kent & Sussex Courier - Tunbridge Wells, Kent,

RETURN THANKS. HOPKINS.—Mr. Hopkins and Family, of Posingford Farm. Hartfield, wish to offer their thanks to all friends for flowers and kind sympathy in their recent sad bereavement.

Chris :)

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 7 Sep 2014 08:28

'Green Ticked', take it info. ok then!, any idea how Woodhams relate?...

Chris :)

Barry

Barry Report 7 Sep 2014 11:12

thanks every one dont think its a family member could be friends or neighbors