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Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1884
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference
ABRAM Elizabeth Ellen North Meols North Sefton HALSALL NM/50/298



Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1872
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
ABRAM John HALSALL Jane North Meols St Cuthbert North Sefton C9/2/394

I can find most of that family on later census, but not Elizabeth Ellen.

Wondering about this one?

1891


Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1878
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference
ABRAM Elizabeth North Meols North Sefton MARTLAND NM/38/412



1891 England Census about Betty Abram
Name: Betty Abram
Age: 13
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1878
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Nathan Abram
Mother's name: Elizabeth M Abram
Gender: Female
Where born: Banks, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: North Meols
Ecclesiastical parish: St Stephen on the Banks
Town: Banks
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: Ormskirk
Sub-registration district: North Meols
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 3034
Folio: 10
Page Number: 14
Household Members:
Name Age
Nathan Abram 54
Elizabeth M Abram 50
Mary Abram 23
Cecily Abram 20
Nathan Abram 18
Richard Abram 16
Betty Abram 13
John Abram 10
Edith Abram 7
Lily Abram 3


Betty not with them in 1901

Name: Nathan Abram
Age: 64
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1837
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Spouse: Elizabeth Abram
Birth Place: Banks, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: North Meols
Ecclesiastical parish: St Stephen
Town: Banks
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: Ormskirk
Sub-registration district: North Meols
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 3535
Folio: 13
Page Number: 17
Household schedule number: 99
Household Members:
Name Age
Nathan Abram 64
Elizabeth Abram 60
Mary Abram 33
John Hy Abram 20
Edith Abram 17
Lily Abram 13

Bottom line, without the details from the marriage certificate, anything on Elizabeth / Lizzie would be pure guesswork.

Name: Elizabeth Abram
Registration Year: 1908
Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar
Registration district: Liverpool
Parishes for this Registration District: View Ecclesiastical Parishes associated with this Registration District
Inferred County: Lancashire
Volume: 8b
Page: 189

Records on Page:
Name
Elizabeth Abram
Martha Lang
Francis Ryder
Arthur Howard Whitehead

I agree, and that marriage may not even be them, although would be good if only to eliminate.

They could have left the clildren and moved on - she may be with a different partner under his name. Really difficult and may be impossible to trace, the only constant is Arthur, but he could have assumed a different name.

Thanks very much every one a lot of great info much to look through, really appreciate all your help :)
Jane

I have been researching Arthur Whitehead born 1879 Wolverhampton and his wife Elizabeth Abram on behalf of my half sister as they were her grandparents. We have a both cert for the baby born 1901 shown as Ernest on the census but he was registered as Arthur. Arthur and Elizabeth went on to marry in 1908 and have three more children, one of whom was my half sister's mother. If you would like more information please contact me.

Sandra