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Shirley
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3 Sep 2014 22:50 |
Thankyou for all that folks. You've been amazing. Such a lot of info in so short a time. I did here of Jim being in prison..joshua. always thought he was born in Rochdale so surprised he was born in Kent. Obviously born when dad was may be serving in army in Kent. Because other siblings born Rochdale. Perhaps it wasn't my joshua in prison. Wonder if I ccould find out somehow. Seems unlikely if the prison was so far away maybe? Shirley :-)
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Catherine
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3 Sep 2014 22:06 |
There's also another criminal record:-
England & Wales, Criminal Registers, 1791-1892 about Joshua Willis Name: Joshua Willis Date of Trial: 12 Jan 1852 Trial Year: 1852 Location of Trial: Somerset, England Sentence: Imprisonment Crime: larceny Sentenced to 3 months Imprisonment
................but no proof that this is your Joshua!
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3 Sep 2014 22:05 |
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Name: Joshua Willis Birth Date: Birthplace: Age: Spouse's Name: Sarah Taylor Spouse's Birth Date: Spouse's Birthplace: Spouse's Age: Event Date: 03 Sep 1803 Event Place: Cathedral,Manchester,Lancashire,England Father's Name: Mother's Name: Spouse's Father's Name: Spouse's Mother's Name: Race: Marital Status: Previous Wife's Name: Spouse's Race: Spouse's Marital Status: Spouse's Previous Husband's Name: Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M00546-4 System Origin: England-ODM GS Film number: 438188, 438189 Reference ID:
Citing this Record: "England Marriages, 1538–1973 ," index, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/NKZR-HYS : accessed 03 Sep 2014), Joshua Willis and Sarah Taylor, 03 Sep 1803; citing Cathedral,Manchester,Lancashire,England, reference ; FHL microfilm 438188, 438189.
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3 Sep 2014 22:00 |
Baptism: 8 Jul 1804 St Chad, Rochdale, Lancashire, England Thomas Willis - Son of Joshua Willis & Sarah Abode: Waterside Occupation: Soldier Baptised by: Thos. Bellas, Curate Source: LDS Film 2356442 and 1545749
Baptism: 15 Jun 1806 St Chad, Rochdale, Lancashire, England Ellen Willies - Daughter of Joshua Willies & Sarah Abode: Lower Gates Occupation: Soldier Baptised by: Thos. Drake D. D., Vicar Source: LDS Film 2356442 and 1545749
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3 Sep 2014 21:53 |
County Kent Place Woolwich Church St Mary Magdalene RegisterNumber 177 DateOfBirth 17 Mar 1813 BaptismDate 31 Mar 1813 Forename Joshua Sex M FatherForename Joshua MotherForename Sarah FatherSurname WILLIS MotherSurname Abode Woolwich FatherOccupation Gunner in the Royal Artillery Notes FileNumber 7009
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3 Sep 2014 21:51 |
Name: Joshua Willis Gender: Male Christening Date: 31 Mar 1813 Christening Place: SAINT MARY MAGDALENE,WOOLWICH,KENT,ENGLAND Birth Date: 17 Mar 1813 Birthplace: Death Date: Name Note: Race: Father's Name: Joshua Willis Father's Birthplace: Father's Age: Mother's Name: Sarah Mother's Birthplace: Mother's Age: Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C05594-1 System Origin: England-ODM GS Film number: 307732, 307733, 307734 Reference ID:
Citing this Record: "England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975," index, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/NLPF-8JY : accessed 03 Sep 2014), Joshua Willis, 31 Mar 1813; citing , reference ; FHL microfilm 307732, 307733, 307734.
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Catherine
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3 Sep 2014 21:48 |
1861 England Census about Joshua Willis Name: Joshua Willis Age: 49 Estimated Birth Year: 1812 Relation: Head Gender: Male Where born: Rochdale, Lancashire, England Civil Parish: Spotland Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street address: Occupation: Registration district: Rochdale Sub-registration district: Whitworth ED, institution, or vessel: 12 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 109 Piece: 3051 Folio: 41 Page Number: 23 Household Members: Name Age Joshua Willis 49 - Widow Ann Willis 16 Thomas Willis 14 Joshua Willis 12 Ellen Willis 5
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Deaths Jun 1858 (>99%) Willis Rachel Rochdale 8e 48 .........................................
1871 England Census about Joshua Willis he's in the Workhouse Name: Joshua Willis Age: 59 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1812 Relation: Inmate Gender: Male Where born: Rochdale, Lancashire, England Civil Parish: Lower Booths Ecclesiastical parish: Rawtenstall St Mary Town: Pike Law County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Registration district: Haslingden Sub-registration district: Rossendale ED, institution, or vessel: Haslingden Union Workhouse Household schedule number: 1 Piece: 4138 Folio: 174 Page Number: 4
Still in the Workhouse:-
1881 England Census about Joshua Willis Name: Joshua Willis Age: 69 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1812 Relationship to Head: Inmate Gender: Male Where born: Rochdale, Lancashire, England Civil Parish: Lower Booths County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street address: "Haslingden Union Workhse" Pike Law Rawtenstall Marital Status: Widow Education:
Employment status:
View image Occupation: Coal Miner Registration district: Haslingden Sub-registration district: Rossendale ED, institution, or vessel: Haslingden Union Workhouse Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 4135 Folio: 99 Page Number: 12
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Catherine
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3 Sep 2014 21:44 |
There is a Joshua Willis in prison in 1850?
England & Wales, Criminal Registers, 1791-1892 about Joshua Willis Name: Joshua Willis Date of Trial: 31 Dec 1850 Trial Year: 1850 Location of Trial: Cornwall, England Sentence: Imprisonment Crime: Larceny from the person Date of Execution or Release: See Image Sentenced to 6 months Imprisonment
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BeverleyW
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3 Sep 2014 21:43 |
I think Choccy has found it
1841 Name: John Willis Age: 6 Mo Estimated Birth Year: abt 1840 Gender: Male Where born: Lancashire, England Civil Parish: Rochdale Hundred: Salford County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Registration district: Rochdale Sub-registration district: Whitworth and Brandwood Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 551 Book: 10 Folio: 62 Page Number: 8 Household Members: Name Age Joshua Willis 25 Rachele Willis 25 John Willis 6 Mo
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3 Sep 2014 21:41 |
Marriage: 6 Sep 1840 St Chad, Rochdale, Lancashire, England Joshua Willis - (X), Full, Carter, Bachelor, Spotland Rachel Hargreaves - (X), Full, Spinster, Spotland Groom's Father: Joshua Willis, Shoe Maker Bride's Father: Samuel Hargreaves, Spinner Witness: Samuel Wilkinson, (X); John Grindrod Married by Banns by: E. Bindloss, Curate Register: Marriages 1840 - 1841, Page 68, Entry 135 Source: LDS Family Search
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Choccy
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3 Sep 2014 21:40 |
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1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Yate Street, New Church, Haslingden, Lancashire, England
Joshua Wellis Head Married Male 39 1812 Ostler Woolwich, Kent, England Rachael Wellis Wife Married Female 34 1817 - Bacup, Lancashire, England John Wellis Son - Male 10 1841 - Bacup, Lancashire, England Ann Wellis Daughter - Female 0 1851 - Lancashire, England Thomas Wellis Son - Male 4 1847 - Lancashire, England Joshua Wellis Son - Male 21 1830 - Bacup, Lancashire, England James Wellis Son - Male 0 1851 - Bacup, Lancashire, England
(son Joshua is aged 2 on the original)
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3 Sep 2014 21:31 |
Name: Joshua Willis Birth Date: Birthplace: Age: Spouse's Name: Rachel Hargreaves Spouse's Birth Date: Spouse's Birthplace: Spouse's Age: Event Date: 1840 Event Place: St.Chad, Rochdale, Lancashire, England Father's Name: Joshua Willis Mother's Name: Spouse's Father's Name: Samuel Hargreaves Spouse's Mother's Name: Race: Marital Status: Previous Wife's Name: Spouse's Race: Spouse's Marital Status: Spouse's Previous Husband's Name: Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M13532-6 System Origin: England-VR GS Film number: 1484381 Reference ID: 2:3J2JMLL
Citing this Record: "England Marriages, 1538–1973 ," index, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/NXLJ-2GL : accessed 03 Sep 2014), Joshua Willis and Rachel Hargreaves, 1840; citing St.Chad, Rochdale, Lancashire, England, reference 2:3J2JMLL; FHL microfilm 1484381.
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Shirley
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3 Sep 2014 21:27 |
Can someone out there help me find joshua willis born around 1812 in Rochdale on the 1851 census. In 1840 he married Rachel hargreaves at Rochdale st chads. I was under impression he may have been in prison. He was possibly in prison at one point. Maybe when Rachel died because seem to remember a story that he wad in prison as on when his daughter Ellen was young. Can anyone confirm this? Thanks Shirley :-)
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