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3 Sep 2014 19:02 |
John Gordon Fisher Born 3rd September 1908 in or about Liverpool
parents: John Banner Fisher B 14th June 1885 Emily Harriet Pennington
thank you Frank Gordon Fisher
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3 Sep 2014 19:16 |
England, Select Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
Name:John Fisher
Gender:Male
Birth Date:3 Sep 1908
Baptism Date:15 Oct 1908
Baptism Place:St. Mary's, Wavertree, Liverpool, England
Father: John Banner Fisher
Mother: Emily
FHL Film Number:1546067
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3 Sep 2014 19:16 |
1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription 73 Stevenson St Wavertree Liverpool, Wavertree, Lancashire, England Print household transcription Household Members First name(s) Last name Relationship to household head Marital condition Gender Age Birth year Birth place Occupation Harriet Pennington Head Widow Female 61 1850 Whittington Shropshire Laundress Private Means Image Transcription Ada Pennington Daughter Single Female 31 1880 L Badworth Cheshire - Image Transcription Hannah Maria Pennington Daughter In Law Married Female 27 1884 Whittington Shropshire - Image Transcription Edna May Pennington Granddaughter - Female 7 1904 Wavertree Liverpool - Image Transcription John Gordon Fisher Grandson - Male 2 1909 Wavertree Liverpool -
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3 Sep 2014 19:26 |
1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription 92 Hey Green Road Wavertree Liverpool, Wavertree, Lancashire, England Print household transcription Household Members First name(s) Last name Relationship to household head Marital condition Gender Age Birth year Birth place Occupation John Banner Fisher Head Married Male 25 1886 Wavertree Lpool Railway Labourer Platelayer Image Transcription Emily Harriett Fisher Wife Married Female 25 1886 Little Budworth Cheshire - Image Transcription Harriett Mary Fisher Niece - Female 2 1909 Wavertree Liverpool -
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3 Sep 2014 19:34 |
1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Wellington Grove, Wavertree, West Derby, Lancashire, England Print household transcription Household Members First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place Harriett Pennington Head Widow Female 41 1850 Laundress Whittington, Shropshire, England Image Transcription Samuel Pennington Son Single Male 13 1878 Joiner Apprentice Cheshire, England Image Transcription Ada Pennington Daughter Single Female 11 1880 Scholar Cheshire, England Image Transcription Tom N Pennington Son - Male 10 1881 Scholar Cheshire, England Image Transcription Emily H Pennington Daughter - Female 5 1886 Scholar Cheshire, England Image Transcription Beattrice A Pennington Daughter - Female 2 1889 - Wavertree, Lancashire, England
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3 Sep 2014 19:37 |
Wondered why I couldn't find him on Ancestry!
1911 England Census
Name:John Gorden Tisher
Age in 1911:2
Estimated Birth Year:abt 1909
Relation to Head:Grandson
Gender:Male
Birth Place:Wavertree Liverpool
Civil Parish:Wavertree
County/Island:Lancashire
Street address:73 Stevenson St Wavertree L Pool
Registration district:West Derby
Registration District Number:455
Sub-registration district:Wavertree
ED, institution, or vessel:14
Piece:22667
Household Members:
Harriet Pennington 61 Ada Pennington 31 Hannah Maria Pennington 27 Edna May Pennington 7 John Gorden Tisher
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3 Sep 2014 19:38 |
Marriages Mar 1930
Backhouse Edward Hellmers Liverpool 8b 253 Berrick Doris Fisher Liverpool 8b 253 Fisher John G Berrick Liverpool 8b 253 Hellmers Lilian Backhouse Liverpool S. 8b 253
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3 Sep 2014 19:41 |
1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Acton Bridge Road, Little Budworth, Northwich, Cheshire, England Print household transcription Household Members First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place Henry Pennington Head Married Male 45 1836 Joiner Bunbury, Cheshire, England Image Transcription Harriet Pennington Wife Married Female 31 1850 Joiners Wife Whittington, Shropshire, England Image Transcription Isaac Pennington Visitor Married Male 22 1859 Labourer Little Budworth, Cheshire, England Image Transcription George H Pennington Son Single Male 13 1868 - Little Budworth, Cheshire, England Image Transcription Samuel Pennington Son Single Male 3 1878 - Little Budworth, Cheshire, England Image Transcription Ada Pennington Daughter Single Female 1 1880 - Little Budworth, Cheshire, England Image Transcription Thomas N Pennington Son Single Male 0 1881 - Little Budworth, Cheshire, England
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3 Sep 2014 19:43 |
Wow you guys got all that fast. thank you, thank you.
so, a little more info on what im looking for. estranged from his wife around 1959/1960 ish, he left home and was never heard of again. love to know if he had children later in his life love to know where he went, probably where he is buried now. at age 106 we are not a family known for old age, especially in the males.
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3 Sep 2014 19:50 |
WOOOOOW Gins you are wonderful never thought to look up mis-spelled words so he is a Tisher eh? laughing
do not understand this part:
Backhouse Edward Hellmers Liverpool 8b 253 Berrick Doris Fisher Liverpool 8b 253 Fisher John G Berrick Liverpool 8b 253 Hellmers Lilian Backhouse Liverpool S. 8b 253
forgive me its my first time here.
i knew he married Doris Berrick, she remained part of our family until her death about 5 years ago. funny, she outlived every one. so who are the 2 Hellmers?
thanks
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3 Sep 2014 19:58 |
Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1930 Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference FISHER John G BERRICK Doris Liverpool, Register Office or Registrar Attended Liverpool REG_LP/397/240
http://lancashirebmd.org.uk/
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3 Sep 2014 20:12 |
Hi Frank
The list of names on the marriage entry are two couples getting married. I didn't know he married Doris so I posted them all
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3 Sep 2014 20:43 |
thank you Gins you are wonderful. i see lots of posts by you. are you staff?
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3 Sep 2014 20:53 |
No Frank not staff, just a member like yourself, helping others
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3 Sep 2014 21:01 |
hi Frank, the deaths index shows full names and dates of birth for deaths after 1969, but there is no John Fisher with birthdate 3 Sep 1908 as shown in the baptism record Gins posted
so he could have died before that year
but there is no John G Fisher death with age to match 1908
in case he emigrated, unfortunately passenger lists are only available up to 1960
possibly given the circumstances, he did what people not uncommonly did, and adopted a different name and possibly even married under that name
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3 Sep 2014 21:15 |
thank you Joonie i have always been afraid that he took a different name. it would have been very easy to do back in the late 50's or early 60's. and yes im also scared he emigrated. like i did.
so a general question to all. what if he wanted to draw a pension? how did that work? i recall i had a social security card with a number on it. was it called a social security card? it was green card if my memory serves. do you need to tell the pension people your social security number to draw a pension? could one trace a person through pension records? are pension records available?
i left the UK 34 years ago so i do not fully understand how the pension system works there.
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3 Sep 2014 22:58 |
Gins you get results so darn fast. can you look up something for me? look for: Roslyn Anne Fisher Born +/- 1963 possibly born in Warley who where listed as her parents?
thanks
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3 Sep 2014 23:26 |
Gins will have to send that to you privately Frank - a person who is living may well not want her personal info posted here
the search will only give you her registered surname, which would ordinarily have been her father's, and her mother's birth surname
it really is quick and easy to do
http://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl
just remember that for that period you have to search using middle initial only not name
however there is no result except in 1945
if you make the first names Ros* A and search 1960-1966 ... the only results are for the name Rosemary.
ohh ... you were thinking of the baptism record Gins posted at the beginning
that information is not available for people born more recently
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3 Sep 2014 23:33 |
Assuming that Warley is in West Midlands, search at freebmd for Roslyn A born in West Midlands (select from the list on the right side) 1960-1966
there is a result that could be the one you are after
for living people it is always best to get information from them directly
in any case the person you are asking about is in someone's family tree here at GR
she should not be there unless the tree owner has her permission, which would suggest the tree owner is in touch with her, but too often that is not the case as many people put distant living relations in their trees without a thought
if you search family trees here (upper right corner, hover over search, select search all trees) you can click beside the tree owner's name to send a message
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4 Sep 2014 00:07 |
thank you Joonie you are all helping me get around this site wonderfully. i did search the owners of the sites by looking in the top corner and i have PM some people who may be the owners.
thanks again
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