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Christopher Fell

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Potty

Potty Report 1 Sep 2014 14:14

Maybe they married in America - 1851 gives son John's POB as that; also may explain why his baptism was so long after his birth:


1851 England Census
John Fell

Age:31
Estimated Birth Year:abt 1820
Relation:Head
Gender:Male
Where born:United States
Civil Parish:St Pancras
Occupation: Leather Seller

John Fell 31
Geo Fell 25
Mary Smalbridge 62

Edit: 1881 gives POB as Washington, United States

Anne

Anne Report 1 Sep 2014 13:12

Sorry for delay in replying, been away. Thanks for all your help. I have ordered a birth certificate for Frances Fell as suggested and will see if Gertrude's maiden name is on it.

Anne

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 31 Aug 2014 04:53

There seems to be a long gap between Thomas Fell and Francis, and I wondered whether Gertrude might have been a second wife ...................



but no ..............




London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906 about James Fell

Name: James Fell
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 12 Nov 1823
Father's Name: Christopher Fell
Mother's name: Gertrude Fell
Parish or Poor Law Union: St Pancras Old St Pancras
Borough: Camden
Register Type: Parish Registers

Born:- October 17, 1823



Name: Christopher Fell
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 9 Dec 1827
Father's Name: Christopher Fell
Mother's name: Gertruda Fell
Parish or Poor Law Union: St Pancras
Borough: Camden
Register Type: Parish Registers



There are several more baptisms, but this seems to be the first one




London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906 about John Tell
Name: John Tell
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 9 Dec 1827
Father's Name: Christopher Tell
Mother's name: Gertrude Tell
Parish or Poor Law Union: St Pancras
Borough: Camden
Register Type: Parish Registers

from the image:-
Born:-May 30 1819


It IS FELL on the image ............... I have submitted the Alternate Information to Ancestry




from this ..................... it looks as if Christopher and Gertrude were married, if they did indeed marry, before 1819

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 31 Aug 2014 04:26

On the offchance that we are correct in our surmising ...................... I'll post this from familysearch



Name: Gertrude Smaldrige
Gender: Female
Christening Date: 26 Dec 1794
Christening Place: BODMIN,CORNWALL,ENGLAND
Father's Name: Thomas Smaldrige
Mother's Name: Frances
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: P00275-1 , System Origin: England-ODM , GS Film number: 962600




Name: Mary Newton Smaldridge
Gender: Female
Christening Date: 17 May 1789
Christening Place: BODMIN,CORNWALL,ENGLAND
Father's Name: Thos. Smaldridge
Mother's Name: Frances
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: P00275-1 , System Origin: England-ODM , GS Film number: 962600

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 31 Aug 2014 04:17

I think brummiejan's thesis is proved correct by the 1861 Census


1861 Census

Name: Christr Fell
Age: 72
Estimated Birth Year: 1789
Relation: Head
Gender: Male
Where born: Bloomsbury, St George, Middlesex, England
Civil Parish: St Pancras
Ecclesiastical parish: St Luke
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England

Registration district: Pancras
Sub-registration district: Somers Town
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 58
Piece: 110
Folio: 92
Page Number: 9

Christr Fell 72 Unmarried
George Fell 35 b.ca 1826, St Pancras, Middlesex, Son, Unmarried, Leather Cutter
Mary N Smallbridge 72 b.ca 1789, Cornwall, Sister-in-Law, Unmarried

Address:- 17 West Street

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 31 Aug 2014 00:23

I am going to speculate a bit here. If this is Frances 1871, then might her Aunt (who is unmarried) be her mother's sister?? She is born St Lawrence Cornwall, same as Gerrtrude.

Ann Williams was also born there - she is also an Aunt, widowed.

Just in case!


1871 England Census about Mary Smallridge
Name: Mary Smallridge
Age: 82
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1789
Relation: Aunt
Gender: Female
Where born: St Lawrence, Cornwall, England
Civil Parish: St Pancras
Ecclesiastical parish: St Pancras
County/Island: London
Country: England
Registration district: Pancras
Sub-registration district: Somers Town

George Fell 45
James Fell 47
Fanny Fell 29 born bloomsbury
Mary Smallridge 82
Ann Williams 72

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 31 Aug 2014 00:15

I thin Kath is probably right - Ancestry has the same.
Jan

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 31 Aug 2014 00:13

Looking on Findmypast the page number is given as 46 and that is what the image looks like to me.

Kath. x

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 31 Aug 2014 00:02

I can't see a marriage, but if this is their daughter, then her birth cert will give Gertude's maiden name:

Births Mar 1842
Fell Frances Bloomsbury 1 46
Fell Frances Bloomsbury 1 56

The number is hard to read, if you decide to get the cert I would do so without the ref.


Name: Frances Fell
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 19 Jan 1842
Father's Name: Christopher Fell
Mother's name: Gertrude Fell
Parish or Poor Law Union: Bloomsbury St George
Borough: Camden
Register Type: Parish Registers


1851 England Census
Name: Francis Fell
Age: 9
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1842
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Christopher Fell
Mother's name: Gertrude Fell
Gender: Female
Where born: St George Bloomsbury
Civil Parish: St George Bloomsbury
County/Island: Middlesex

Registration district: St Giles
Sub-registration district: St George Bloomsbury
ED, institution, or vessel: 13

Christopher Fell 62
Gertrude Fell 55
James Fell 27
Christopher Fell 23
Thomas Fell 21
Francis Fell 9

Anne

Anne Report 30 Aug 2014 23:48

I am trying to find a marriage record for Christopher Fell born 1789 in St Pancras. His wife is Gertrude, maiden name unknown, born 1796 in Cornwall. Help required

Anne Coletta