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The 1856 arrival.. Timeline fits and is new detail that Dingeman was an Engineer versus his later occupation as Commission Merchant. The accompanying M. Lucardie .. the only first named initialled M. amongst Dingeman’s male siblings was his younger brother, 1841 Martinus.. just conjecture that it’s him but again seaman fits though he seems a bit young.. Martinus was later to graduate from the Dutch Royal Naval College and sail for the East Indies in 1861, rising to a rank of Rear-Admiral of the Navy and a Knight.
Aside from this arrival, and those of Dingeman’s father in the 1840’s & 50’s there was also a George Reinier Lucardie who arrived in London on the 28th of July 1851, but of a different branch of the family than either this thread or the earlier one ref’d to by Gins.
Re the children of Frances Eliza Glen / Lucardie, Gritty, thanks for the Royal Irish Rifles Frances Gle double n.. looks tempting with sister Sarah a close name match though the double n, Sarah versus Sara, and lack of Lucardie surname will keep this file “open” in my Tree.

Post-Office annual Glasgow directory 1862-1863
LUCARDIE and Coupees, commission agents, 152 West George street.
Lucardie, D. M., of Lucardh and Coupees; house, 5 Windsor street,

And 1865- 66
LUCARDIE & Coupees, merchants & commission agents, 152 West George street.
Lucardie, D M (of Lucardie & Coupees) ho. at Mr Callender's, 45 Great Western Road.

Looks like he was in Scotland from at least 1862

This also on the company- Francis now listed as Coupees

Published: Glasgow Herald 03 January 1866

THE COMPANY OF LUCARDIE & COUPEES,
Merchants and Commission Agents Glasgow, Has This Day been DISSOLVED by mutual consent of the subscribers, the sole partners thereof.
The debts due to and by the company will be discharged and settled by the subscriber DINGEMAN M LUCARDIE, who contunues the Business on his own account. (signed): D M LUCARDIE, FRANCIS COUPEES

JOHN M'CLURE witness
GEORGE MACDONALD witness
Glasgow 30th December 1865

Publication Title: 1870 Post Office Directory of Glasgow
D M Lucardie
Street address: 40 Union St
Country: Scotland
Publication Year: 1870

Also at 40 Union Street in the same year:
Lucardie & Lang 40 Union St.

If Frances gave hid NOK as his sister when he enlisted in 1889 then either his mother was deceased or maybe she had married and he didn't get on with his stepfather. Look on Scotlandspeople for a possible death or marriage for her.

Did the birth registrations for the children give a date and place for the parents marriage please?

If the father had left the children, the mother may have claimed Poor Relief. These records are indexed and are available in The Mitchell Library, Glasgow.

Hi

If you stick to one thread, it makes it easier for us to see the bigger picture

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1343451

Oh and the service record for Frances- he signs up in Belfast 1889 but the address for his sister (which I can't read) is also in Belfast- so perhaps all the family moved to Ireland?

Maybe worth keeping in mind

Is this not his arrival?

Name: D Lucardie- Engineer
Port of Arrival: London, England
Arrival Date: 30 Jul 1856
Port of Departure: Rotterdam, Netherlands
Ship: Batavier
Country of Origin/Native of: Holland

Travelling with an M Lucardie, seaman also native of Holland

Thanks for the Census detail ( with its gender errors ) and the Perry’s Bankrupt Gazette detail is new to me.. pushes Dingeman's timeline a bit earlier into the U.K. ( his father had been trading, visiting the U.K. since the 1840's ) however what became of Frances Eliza Glen and the 3 children is still a mystery.

Oh, OK now seeing the difficulties also this Baptism:

Frances Eliza Glen
Gender: Female
Birth Date: 27 Nov 1868
Birth Place: Tradeston,Glasgow,Lanark,Scotland
Mother: Frances Eliza Glen
FHL Film Number: 6035516

This is possibly the child on the 1871 census- he joined up in Belfast and gives his next of kin as Sister: Sarah Glenn

Name: FRANCES GLENN
Birth year (abt) 1871
Birth parish BARONY
Birth town GLASGOW
Birth county LANARKSHIRE
Birth country SCOTLAND
Service number 2437
Regiment Royal Irish Rifles - 83rd & 86th Foot
Document Type Attestation
Attestation date 21 Jan 1889
Attestation age 18 years 6 months
Attestation Corps Royal Irish Rifles
Attestation service number 2437
Discharge Corps Royal Irish Rifles
Series chelsea pensioners british army service records 1760-1913
Box 4941
Box Record Number 97
Record set British Army Service Records 1760-1915

England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1966


Name:Dingeman Martinus Lucardie

Probate Date:5 Jul 1898

Death Date:15 Jan 1898

Death Place:Holland

Registry:London, England

To Hew Crawford, merchant, attorney of Adriana Catharina Hoffmann, widow £2283 1s 2d

Published in Perry’s Bankrupt Gazette 13 January 1866

Scotch Partnerships Dissolved
Gazette.Jan 5th 1866
LUCARDIE Dingeman M. and Francis COUPERS, merchants and commission agents, Glasgow 30th Dec. Debts by Lucardie

1871
Thomas Eliza Glen Head Unmarried Female 24 1847 - England
Francis Eliza Glen Son Male 1 1870 Glasgow, Lanarkshire,
Dingiman Martinas Lucardie Visitor Unmarried Female 31 1840 Commission Merchant Holland (Netherlands)

Individual transcription
First name(s) Dingiman Martinas
Last name Lucardie
Relationship Visitor
Marital status Unmarried
Gender Female
Age 31
Birth year 1840
Occupation Commission Merchant
Birth place Holland (Netherlands)
Birth place other as transcribed HOLLAND
House number 13
Street Rupert Street
Parish Barony
County Lanarkshire
Country Scotland
Registration district Milton
Archive reference RG10
Record set 1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census

I think there's a few transcription errors- Thomas maybe Francis and Lucardie obviously should be male. Scotlands People should have the original

Scotland, Select Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950


Name:Dingeman Martinus Lucardie

Gender:Male

Spouse:
Frances Eliza Glen

Child:
Francis Lucardie

I can't see it on Ancestry, must be mistranscribed, but from familysearch:

Name: Dingiman Martinas Lucardie
Event Type: Census
Event Date: 1871
Gender: Female
Age: 31
Registration District: Milton
County: Lanarkshire
Birth Year (Estimated): 1840

Having trouble with family of one particular individual.. Dingeman Martinus Lucardie, born 4th of Dec 1839 Rotterdam married Adriana Catharina Hoffmann, on the 23rd of October, 1873, in the Nederlands.
Prior to this however, with the Mother Frances Eliza Glen, possibly married, he is recorded as the father of;
possibly 1) Frances Eliza Glen. Born 27/11/1868, Tradeston,Glasgow,Lanark,Scotland, and,
2) Francis Lucardie. Born 17/11/1869, Tradeston,Glasgow
3) Sara Eliza Lucardie. Born 7/8/1871, Milton,Glasgow,Lanark
and I've read reports that refer to Dingeman in the v1871 Census however, have not been able to locate either the Census item or any record of the mother & children post these birth references. Dingeman is well documented in his life prior the this Lanark family, and post his marriage to Adriana in 1873.. just absent this period 1868 / 1873. If anyone can further define him, his family, in Scotland, would be appreciated.