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20 Aug 2014 03:57 |
All I know is that he was born in Derbyshire. He and his "wife" Emma Storey lived at Tufton Street Westminster London. They had several children, my father being the youngest boy named Robert Charles. I cannot find a marriage certificate. Are there any descendants who can give me further information?
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20 Aug 2014 04:28 |
Do you have any dates for these people? When did they live in Westminster?
Do you have your father's birth certificate?
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20 Aug 2014 04:33 |
For reference:
1881 England Census about Robert C. Marsden Name: Robert C. Marsden Age: 1 Estimated birth year: abt 1880 Relationship to Head: Son Father: George Marsden Mother: Emma M. Marsden Gender: Male Where born: Westminster, Middlesex, England Civil Parish: St John the Evangelist County/Island: London Country: England Street address: 87 Gt Tufton Street
Registration district: St George Hanover Square Sub-registration district: St John Westminster ED, institution, or vessel: 5 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 111 Folio: 29 Page Number: 51 Household Members: Name Age George Marsden 39 Emma M. Marsden 34 Sophia Marsden 11 Anne L. Marsden 10 Hannah Marsden 8 Victor Hugo Marsden 7 Frank Marsden 5 Ellen E. Marsden 3 Robert C. Marsden 1
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20 Aug 2014 04:37 |
Emma's birth?
Births Dec 1846 STOREY Emma Martha St Pancras 1 294 Perhaps George had been married before?
Rose
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SylviaInCanada
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20 Aug 2014 05:23 |
yes .......
........ Eileen has Robert Charles Marsden born 1879 in her tree
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SylviaInCanada
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20 Aug 2014 05:25 |
Eileen .................
it is very unlikely that a family connection will just happen by this post .....................
the best way is to see if he is on any other trees on site
Go to Search at the top right
Click on it
Then click on Search All Trees
If his name does appear in someone's tree .................. just click on the name of the member, and send them a pm (private message) to ask if there could possibly be a connection.
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SylviaInCanada
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20 Aug 2014 05:38 |
The 1891 Census shows that george had stated that he was born in Bakewell, Derbyshire
Emma says she was born in Kentish Town, London ............. so the odds are hat any marriage took place in London
This is them in 1871 .... and George is quite a bit older than Emma
1871 Census
Name: George Marsden Age: 36 Estimated birth year: abt 1835 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Emma Marsden Gender: Male Where born: Derbyshire, England Civil Parish: St Marylebone Ecclesiastical parish: Trinity County/Island: London Country: England Registration district: Marylebone Sub-registration district: Christchurch
George Marsden 36 b.ca 1835, Derbyshire, Carman Emma Marsden 24 Sophia Marsden 2 b.ca 1869, Marylebone Anne L Marsden 1 Month b.ca 1871, Marylebone Eliza Sloray 20 Visitor <<<< ??Storey?
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20 Aug 2014 07:43 |
1861 England Census about Eliza Storey Name:Eliza Storey Age:9 Estimated birth year:1852 Relation:Daughter Father's Name:George Storey Mother's name:Sophia Storey Gender:Female Where born:Kentish Town Civil Parish:Islington Ecclesiastical parish:St John County/Island:Middlesex Country:England Household Members:
George Storey 43 (Fishmonger and Poulterer) Sophia Storey 44 Louisa Storey 17 Emma Storey 14 Anne Storey 12 Eliza Storey 9 Hannah Storey 8 George H Storey 6 Martha Storey 1 Emma Clack 34
I'm not seeing a Marsden/Storey marriage.
London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906 about Emma Martha Storey Name:Emma Martha Storey Record Type:Baptism Baptism Date:29 Nov 1846 DOB: 25th Oct 1845 Father's Name:George Storey (Fishmongers Servant) Kentish Town Mother's name:Sophia Storey Parish or Poor Law Union:St Pancras Borough:Camden Register Type:Parish Registers
On the same page...
Mary Louisa Storey Born 1st Nov 1843
Sophia Storey Born 25th Oct 1846
1851...
Household Members:
George Wm Storey 33 (Fishmonger) Sophia Storey 34 Hannah Storey 18 Mary Louis Storey 7 Sophia Storey 6 Emma Storey 4 Ellen Storey 3 Ann Storey 3
1911 England Census about Emma Marsden Name:Emma Marsden Age in 1911:64 Estimated birth year:abt 1847 Relation to Head:Patient Gender:Female Birth Place:Kentish Town, London, England Civil Parish:Tottenham County/Island:Middlesex Country:England Street address:Prince Of Wales General Hospital, The Green, Tottenham Marital Status:Widowed Registration district:Edmonton Emma Marsden 64
England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index, 1837-1915 about Emma M Marsden Name:Emma M Marsden Estimated birth year:abt 1847 Registration Year:1913 Registration Quarter:Jul-Aug-Sep Age at Death:66 Registration district:Edmonton Inferred County:Middlesex Volume:3a Page:378
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Jacqueline
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20 Aug 2014 08:50 |
Births Mar 1880 (>99%) Marsden Robert Charles St. Geo. H. Sq 1a 458
Marriages Jun 1912 (>99%) Marsden Robert C Whitlock Wandsworth 1d 1035
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Jacqueline
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20 Aug 2014 08:55 |
At least one other member seems to have Robert in his GR tree, and someone else also has Eileen in a tree on here
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20 Aug 2014 10:27 |
What an amazing age Eileen is.
Rose
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SylviaInCanada
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20 Aug 2014 18:20 |
Eileen ...............
did you mean to say that Robert Charles was your grandfather?????
If he really is your father .................. you are magnificent for your age :-)
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Jacqueline
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20 Aug 2014 22:28 |
Sylvia
freebmd ( and GR trees) confirm that Eileen is the daughter of Robert Charles, as per the marriage I added above
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SylviaInCanada
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21 Aug 2014 00:05 |
so .....................
she is magnificent for her age :-)
or do you not agree?????????????
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SylviaInCanada
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21 Aug 2014 07:57 |
Eileen confirms that we have all details correct ................. so far as it goes.
if we could only find the information on George
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Chris Ho :)
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21 Aug 2014 08:16 |
http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1299122
http://www.genesreunited.co.za/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1191073?d=asc&page=62
(Derek looks to have helped somebody else with George above)
edits (looks like Daughter of Eileen)
http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1313497?page=0
(some background info. on above, sadly no Marriage either)
Chris :)
(agrees, Eileen is doing brilliant, and wish something would 'jump out' and help solve things!)
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21 Aug 2014 20:42 |
for information ONLY .....................
this is what Derek posted on his Derbyshire thread cited by Chris above .....
http://www.genesreunited.co.za/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1191073?d=asc&page=62
Sonya Report 21 Aug 2011 23:00
Thanks...found your thread. Everything from 1871 is correct on my tree. As we do not know George Marsdens parents as no marriage cert. cannot say further back. Emma Storey family all ok. My tree is open so see what I have. All the past is from my mothers contact with Neil Marsden and his Marsden family tree. My mother is daughter of Robert Charles Marsden 1880 son of George. sonya
Derek Report 22 Aug 2011 16:17
Sonya..once I saw your tree and saw the plethora of MARSDENs at BASLOW.....because I have the Baslow Parish records.....it all fell into place....... So I can tell you that GEORGE MARSDEN was baptised at Baslow 1843..the swcond child of John Marsden and Elizabeth nee Singleton.who were married there 24.11.1840. Unfortunately my Baptisms don't go any further than 1841..so apart from EDMUND 31.05.1841..I can't yet give you tha actual baptism dates for all the other children of John and Elizabeth
I was at matlock records Office on fridat..and had i had your enquiry then it would all have been on a plate..
I found John and Elizabeth's family on the 1851 and 1861 Census Records....and George is there..but he disappears on 1861 and 1871..and reappears 1881..1891..1901.
I found the baptism of Emma M Storey at St.Pancras london..agrreing with your tree..but nowhere can i find a marriage for her and George......and that includes ervy marriage regstry i have acces to..FreeBMD...London Marriages..Pallots Registers..and IGI...so I don't know what is going on there.
By the way the 1851 Census shows Dorah as David..but that id clearly a mistake from the original entry..a misreading....
There are things in the Baslow Registers that are not on your tree..the family of some of the ladies that married into the Marsdens.if at some time you want them.
So.I'm happy to give you the confirmation you asked for..
Derek.
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Chris Ho :)
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22 Aug 2014 16:14 |
PM received from Eileen, still wondering about Marriage...
Chris :)
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Jacqueline
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22 Aug 2014 16:29 |
All the evidence leads to the conclusion that no marriage took place
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Jacqueline
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24 Aug 2014 09:38 |
http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/living_relatives/thread/1343993
http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1316160
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