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15 Aug 2014 18:18 |
I have tracked down a relative Ellenor (Ellen) Rayner maiden name Fairburn born 1798 in Yorkshire (Hartshead) I would love to know about her parents.. No luck on Genes so far finding much about her. Lots of the Rayner family were from that area .Although my Maternal Grandfather named Fairburn Rayner was born in Manchester 1878... Thank You for any help. Marje
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brummiejan
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15 Aug 2014 18:25 |
Just putting for reference - I know you probably have this, but it helps us to put her in context. A few Ancestry trees have her parents as John and Sarah *Smith), though not sure where that came from!
1851 England Census Name: Ellenor Rayner Age: 53 Estimated birth year: abt 1798 Relation: Wife Spouse's Name: Henry Rayner Gender: Female Where born: Clifton, Yorkshire, England Civil Parish: Hartshead cum Clifton County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England
Registration district: Halifax Sub-registration district: Rastrick
Henry Rayner 54 Ellenor Rayner 53 Thomas Rayner 21 Ellenor Rayner 19 Mary Rayner 14 John Rayner 8
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AnnCardiff
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15 Aug 2014 18:29 |
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Name: Ellen Rayner Event Type: Death Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep Registration Year: 1871 Registration District: Halifax County: Yorkshire Event Place: Halifax, Yorkshire, England Age (available after 1866): 73 Birth Year (Estimated): 1798 Volume: 9A Page: 265 Line Number: 7
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AnnCardiff
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15 Aug 2014 18:38 |
Name: Henry Rayner Spouse's Name: Eleanor Fairburn Event Date: 13 Aug 1818 Event Place: Hartshead, York, England Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M01697-7 , System Origin: England-EASy , GS Film number: 1542089 , Reference ID: it.8,p.22,no.64
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Mary
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15 Aug 2014 19:37 |
She had amongst others Lydia and Joah (unusual)
So was her parents John 1754-1803 and Sarah nee Smith 1758,they baptised many children including a Joah and Lydia also a Ann 27/5/1798 maybe this was Ellen/Ellinor??
Maryb.
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SylviaInCanada
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15 Aug 2014 19:48 |
This is Ellen(or) in 1841 ................as Mary says, she has some unusual names for her children, and this could be a lead to finding the parents
Name: Ellen Rayner Age: 43 Estimated birth year: abt 1798 Gender: Female Where born: Yorkshire, England Civil Parish: Clifton Hundred: Morley County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England
Registration district: Halifax Sub-registration district: Brighouse
Henry Rayner 40 Ellen Rayner 43 Yoah Rayner 18 Hannah Rayner 15 Furburn Rayner 14 <<<<< Fairburn on image Thomas Rayner 11 Ellen Rayner 9 Harriot Rayner 7 Mary Rayner 5 Robinson Rayner 2 Address:- Clifton
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SylviaInCanada
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15 Aug 2014 19:56 |
This tree has the following .............. but there are no documents cited to prove what is posted
Jacobs Owner: barjan132
ELEANOR Ann FAIRBURN Birth 27 May 1798 in Clifton, Yorkshire, England Death 28 Aug 1871 in Yorkshire West Riding, United Kingdom
Parents
John Fairburn 1754 – 1803
Sarah Smith 1758 –
John Fairburn Birth 1754 in Clifton, Yorkshire, England Death 29 May 1803 in Clifton, Yorkshire, England
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SylviaInCanada
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15 Aug 2014 20:18 |
Mary mentioned that the putative parents also had children called Joah and Lydia ............
here's the baptism for a Joah Fairburn in Clifton with father John. No name of parent however
This is from http://www.freereg.org.uk/
Search Record Details County West Riding YKS Place Hartshead Church St Peter RegisterNumber DateOfBirth BaptismDate 31 Aug 1788 Forename Joah Sex M FatherForename John MotherForename FatherSurname FAIRBURN MotherSurname Abode Clifton FatherOccupation Wiredrawer Notes FileNumber 2899
These are other baptisms in Hartshead during the period of interest.
Note there is an Ann in 1798
# Record Type Baptism Date Surname Forename County Place Name Found As
Baptisms 09 Aug 1778 FAIRBURN Hannah West Riding YKS Hartshead Father Surname
Baptisms 16 Nov 1779 FAIRBURN Salley West Riding YKS Hartshead Father Surname
Baptisms 11 Mar 1781 FAIRBURN Judeth West Riding YKS Hartshead Father Surname
Baptisms 25 Dec 1782 FAIRBURN John West Riding YKS Hartshead Father Surname
Baptisms 20 Sep 1784 FAIRBURN Lydia West Riding YKS Hartshead Father Surname
Baptisms 15 Oct 1786 FAIRBURN Ben West Riding YKS Hartshead Father Surname
Baptisms 31 Aug 1788 FAIRBURN Joah West Riding YKS Hartshead Father Surname
Baptisms 04 Apr 1790 FAIRBURN George West Riding YKS Hartshead Father Surname
Baptisms 08 Apr 1792 FAIRBURN Robert West Riding YKS Hartshead Father Surname
Baptisms 23 Mar 1794 FAIRBURN Betty West Riding YKS Hartshead Father Surname Baptisms 17 Apr 1796 FAIRBURN Mary West Riding YKS Hartshead Father Surname
Baptisms 27 May 1798 FAIRBURN Ann West Riding YKS Hartshead Father Surname
Baptisms 27 Jul 1800 FAIRBURN Davide West Riding YKS Hartshead Father Surname
Baptisms 12 Dec 1802 FAIRBURN Harriot West Riding YKS Hartshead Father Surname
All Have Father John Fairburn, occupation Wiredrawer
No name for mother (not unusual at that time)
plus this baptism in 1806 ...............
County West Riding YKS Place Hartshead Church St Peter RegisterNumber DateOfBirth BaptismDate 15 Jul 1806 Forename Zillah Sex F FatherForename MotherForename Sarah FatherSurname MotherSurname FAIRBURN Abode Clifton FatherOccupation Widdow Notes FileNumber 2899
In view of the above, could this be John Fairburn's marriage?
from the above freeReg site
County West Riding YKS Place Hartshead Church St Peter RegisterNumber MarriageDate 20 Jul 1778 GroomForename John GroomSurname Fairburn GroomAge GroomParish GroomCondition GroomOccupation GroomAbode BrideForename Sarah BrideSurname Smith BrideAge BrideParish BrideCondition BrideOccupation BrideAbode GroomFatherForename GroomFatherSurname GroomFatherOccupation BrideFatherForename BrideFatherSurname BrideFatherOccupation WitnessOneForename George WitnessOneSurname Brearley WitnessTwoForename Joshua WitnessTwoSurname Goldthorp Notes FileNumber 2903
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SylviaInCanada
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15 Aug 2014 20:28 |
some of the above baptisms are also on ancestry
for example ................
Yorkshire, England, Extracted Parish Records about Ann John Fairburn
Text: 27 May 1798 Ann dr of John Fairburn of Clifton Wiredrawer Book: Baptisms. (Baptism) Collection: Yorkshire: Hartshead - Parish Registers (Christenings, Marriages & Burials): 1612-1812
and this burial
Yorkshire, England, Extracted Parish Records about John Fairburn
Text: 29 May 1803 John Fairburn of Clifton Wiredrawer Book: Burials. (Burial) Collection: Yorkshire: Hartshead - Parish Registers (Christenings, Marriages & Burials): 1612-1812
and the marriage of John and Sarah
Yorkshire, England, Extracted Parish Records about John Fairburn Sarah Smith
Text: 20 Jul 1778 John Fairburn and Sarah Smith, by me John Crosse, Minr. Witnesses, George Brearley, Joshua Goldthorp Book: Marriages. (Marriage) Collection: Yorkshire: Hartshead - Parish Registers (Christenings, Marriages & Burials): 1612-1812
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Mary
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15 Aug 2014 21:27 |
Henry Rayner also a Wiredrawer.
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marje
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16 Aug 2014 08:48 |
Thank You Sylvia ,Ann Jan & Mary You've all helped me so much Will now research Ellenors Parents ,, Marje
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