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14 Aug 2014 09:29 |
;-) I have Louisa Simper married to Lauchland Jones in 1863. On the marriage cert her father William was a tailor. she was 18 b 1845
I am trying to find her before 1863 I have found a Sarah Charlotte Simper b 1842 baptism 17th April 1844 Lambeth St John Father William a tailor mother Mary
In 1841 William Simper Age: 30 Estimated birth year: abt 1811 Gender: Male Where born: Surrey, England Civil Parish: St Mary Newington Hundred: Brixton (Eastern Division) County/Island: Surrey Country: England Street address:
Occupation: View image Registration district: Newington Sub-registration district: St Mary Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 1063 Book: 6 Folio: 34 Page Number: 5 Household Members: Name Age William Simper 30 Mary Simper 25 Elizabeth Simper 4 Mary Simper 1 Occupation was a tailor
Where is William or Louisa or even Sarah Charlotte in 1851 and 1861 ???
Any help will be greatly appreciated by myself and definitely my OH who likes to try and keep his wife slightly sane :-D :-D :-D
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14 Aug 2014 09:38 |
A tree on Ancestry has this
WILLIAM Simper Birth abt 1814 in Surrey, England Death Dec 1851 in Newington, Surrey, England
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14 Aug 2014 09:45 |
Wondering about this family?
1851
Name: Sarah Simpers Age: 8 Estimated birth year: abt 1843 Relation: Daughter Father's Name: Handy Simpers Mother's name: Sarah Simpers Gender: Female Where born: Newington, Surrey, England Civil Parish: Newington Ecclesiastical parish: St Peter Phillimore Ecclesiastical Parish Maps: View related Ecclesiastical Parish County/Island: Surrey Country: England Street address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Disability:
View image Registration district: Newington Sub-registration district: St Peter Walworth ED, institution, or vessel: 14 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 70 Piece: 1567 Folio: 384 Page Number: 13 Household Members: Name Age Handy Simpers 30 Sarah Simpers 38 Henry Simpers 10 Sarah Simpers 8 Mary Simpers 6 Eliza Simpers 4
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Not hem, father is actually Henry and he's a Cordwainer. Will leave in case he his related to your William.
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14 Aug 2014 09:48 |
Thank you Rootgatherer
I will check the tree out but I think thats a different William
Edit to say right 1841 census on that tree but wrong William and family :-(
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14 Aug 2014 09:50 |
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1841 England Census about William Simper Name:William Simper Age:30 Estimated birth year:abt 1811 Gender:Male Where born:Surrey, England Civil Parish:St Mary Newington Hundred:Brixton (Eastern Division) County/Island:Surrey Country:England Street address: Occupation: Tailor Registration district:Newington Sub-registration district:St Mary Household Members:
William Simper 30 (Tailor) Mary Simper 25 Elizabeth Simper 4 Mary Simper 1
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14 Aug 2014 09:56 |
Prickles I think that is the right 1841 census for them ...
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14 Aug 2014 09:58 |
Wife remarries in 1857...
London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921 about Richard Bashford Name:Richard Bashford Estimated birth year:abt 1812 Age:45 Spouse: Mary Ann Simper Spouse Age:38 Record Type:Marriage Event Date:2 Aug 1857 Parish:St Philip, Bethnal Green Borough:Tower Hamlets Father Name:Edward Bashford Spouse Father:John Cridick (Shoe Maker) Register Type:Parish Register
1861 England Census about Richard Bashford Name:Richard Bashford Age:45 Estimated birth year:1816 Relation:Head Spouse's Name:Mary Ann Bashford Gender:Male Where born:Lambeth, Surrey, England Civil Parish:Newington St Mary Ecclesiastical parish:Walworth St Peter County/Island:Surrey Country:England
Household Members:
Richard Bashford 45 Mary Ann Bashford 39 Charlotte Bashford 16 Louisa Bashford 15 <<<<<<<< ??????? Emily Bashford 12 Martha Bashford 1
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14 Aug 2014 10:13 |
Well found Prickles!
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PricklyHolly
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14 Aug 2014 10:15 |
Struggling to find Mary Ann Simper in 1851 :-(
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14 Aug 2014 10:16 |
Prickles I think you are a sanity saver :-D Didn´t think of Mary re-marrying and changing the surname of the children It didn´t help that William wasn´´t down as deceased on Louisa´s marriage in 1863
I will go and check that all out >>>>>>>
Wouls still like to find the family in 1851 if possible ;-)
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14 Aug 2014 10:18 |
Louisa on original (Ancestry)
1851 England Census
Name: Janna Timper
Age: 6
Estimated birth year: abt 1845
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: William Timper
Mother's name: Mary Timper
Gender: Female
Where born: Newington, Surrey, England
Civil Parish: Newington
Phillimore Ecclesiastical Parish Maps:
County/Island:Surrey Country:England Registration district:Newington Sub-registration district:St Mary ED, institution, or vessel:11
Household schedule number:44 Piece:1568 Folio:311 Page Number:9
William Timper 42 Tailor
Mary Timper 34
Isabella Timper 13
Mary Timper 10
Charlotte Timper 7
Janna Timper 6
Emily Timper 3 Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece: 1568; Folio: 311; Page: 9; GSU roll: 174802.
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14 Aug 2014 10:23 |
Banns for William Simper and Mary Ann Cridick...
London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921 about William Simper Name:William Simper (Bachelor) Spouse: Mary Ann Cridick (Spinster) Record Type:Marriage Event Date:28 Aug 1836 Parish:St George, Camberwell Borough:Southwark Register Type:Parish Register
Pallot's Marriage Index for England: 1780 - 1837 about Wm Simper Name:Wm Simper Spouse:Mary Cridick Marriage Date:1836 Parish:Camberwell
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14 Aug 2014 10:24 |
FMP version
1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Crown Square, Newington, Surrey, England
William Simpson Head Married Male 42 1809 Tailor
Mary Simpson Wife - Female 34 1817 Tailor
Isabella Simpson Daughter - Female 13 1838 Servant
Mary Simpson Daughter - Female 10 1841 Scholar
Charlotte Simpson Daughter - Female 8 1843 Scholar
Louisa Simpson Daughter - Female 6 1845 Scholar
Emily Simpson Daughter - Female 3 1848 At Home
Archive Reference HO107 Piece Number 1568 Folio 311 Page 9
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14 Aug 2014 10:26 |
Mistranscribed as "Timper"
1851 England Census about Charlotte Timper Name:Charlotte Timper Age:7 Estimated birth year:abt 1844 Relation:Daughter Father's Name:William Timper Mother's name:Mary Timper Gender:Female Where born:Newington, Surrey, England Civil Parish:Newington Phillimore Ecclesiastical Parish Maps:
Household Members:
William Timper 42 (Tailor) Mary Timper 34 Isabella Timper 13 Mary Timper 10 Charlotte Timper 7 Janna Timper 6 <<<<< Louisa on the image Emily Timper 3
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PricklyHolly
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14 Aug 2014 10:28 |
Ah...Choccy beat me to it! :-D
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UzziAndHerDogs
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14 Aug 2014 10:28 |
Choccy and Prickles well done and Rootgatherer Thank you all so Much sanity saved <3 <3 <3 <3
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PricklyHolly
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14 Aug 2014 11:12 |
Mary Ann Cridick's brother..........
She is a witness at his marriage.
London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921 about John Cridick Name:John Cridick (Bachelor) Stone Mason (Milk Street) Spouse:Elizabeth Wilson (Spinster) Southampton Road Record Type:Marriage Event Date:6 Dec 1847 Parish:St Mary, Newington Borough:Southwark Father Name:John Cridick (Shoemaker) Spouse Father:William Wilson (Deceased) Register Type:Parish Register Witnesses: William Williams and Mary Ann Simper
1851 England Census about John Cridick Name:John Cridick Age:29 Estimated birth year:abt 1822 Relation:Head Spouse's Name:Elizabeth Cridick Gender:Male Where born:Walworth, Surrey, England Civil Parish:Newington
Household Members:
John Cridick 29 (Marble Polisher) Elizabeth Cridick 31 Elizabeth Cridick 2 John Cridick 2 Mo
(On Ancestry as "Credich" on the 1861 census)
John age 30.........but the image reads age 39. (Widower)
England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index, 1837-1915 about Elizabeth Cridick Name:Elizabeth Cridick Registration Year:1858 Registration Quarter:Oct-Nov-Dec Registration district:Kensington Inferred County:London Volume:1a Page:71
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14 Aug 2014 13:03 |
Children....
London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906 about Elizabeth Priscilla Cridick Name:Elizabeth Priscilla Cridick Record Type:Baptism Baptism Date:15 Oct 1848 Father's Name:John Cridick (Stone Mason) Mother's name:Elizabeth Cridick Parish or Poor Law Union:Newington St Mary Borough:Southwark Register Type:Parish Registers
London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906 about John Cridick Name:John Cridick Record Type:Baptism Baptism Date:16 Feb 1851 Father's Name:John Cridick (Stone Mason) Mother's name:Elizabeth Cridick Parish or Poor Law Union:Newington St Mary Borough:Southwark Register Type:Parish Registers
London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906 about Edward Cridick Name:Edward Cridick Record Type:Baptism Baptism Date:7 May 1854 Father's Name:John Cridick (Marble Mason) Mother's name:Elizabeth Cridick Parish or Poor Law Union:Newington St Mary Borough:Southwark Register Type:Parish Registers
Father John died in 1878.......but I can't for the life of me find him on the 1871 census. :-|
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14 Aug 2014 20:30 |
Prickles thank you ... <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3
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