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I am trying to find Fanny's birth records. I have her marriage certificate in 1906 and this shows she is aged 23 and her father is called Frederick Jennings and deceased.
On a census of .1911 she is married to John Green.andi know this is true and it shows her birthplace as Wincanton, Somerset.

Other trees show their records of Georgina Jennings born in workhouse at Wincanton in 1879 but I'm getting confused. They have her mother as Sarah Lockett Jennings daughter of Orlando Jennings but I can find no marriage to a Frederick.

Any help is appreciated, thank you

Just to confirm:


1901 England Census
Name: Fanny G Jennings
Age: 22
Estimated birth year: abt 1879
Relation to Head: Servant
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Wincanton, Somerset, England
Civil Parish: Woolverton
Ecclesiastical parish: Rode St Lawrence and Woolverton St Lawrence
Town: Woolverton
County/Island: Somerset
Country: England

Registration district: Frome
Sub-registration district: Road

Henry W Davy 29
Lilian Agnes Davy 31
Robert R M Davy 11 Months
Fanny G Jennings 22
Rose E Smith 22
Alice Mary Deane 27

Part of the 1881 census - I guess this is where the info came from:

1881 England Census

Name: Georgina Jennings
Age: 1
Estimated birth year: abt 1880
Relationship to Head: Inmate
Gender: Female
Where born: Wincanton, Somerset, England
Civil Parish: Wincanton
County/Island: Somerset
Country: England
Street address: "The Wincanton Union Workhouse"

Registration district: Wincanton
Sub-registration district: Wincanton
ED, institution, or vessel: The Wincanton Union Workhouse
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 2398
Folio: 72
Page Number: 1

Mary Ann Jennings 36
Frederick Charles Jennings 14
Ann Jennings 11
Kate Jennings 8
William Thomas Jennings 5
Agnes Alice Jennings 1
Sarah Jennings 18
Georgina Jennings 1

This must be the above Georgina.

England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index
Name: Georgina Jennings
Registration Year: 1879
Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration district: Wincanton
Somerset
Volume: 5c
Page: 446


Where is Fanny 1911, I can't see her.

Marriages Jun 1906 (>99%)
Green John Newport, M. 11a 446
Jennings Fanny Georgina Newport, M. 11a 446

Just for others to see - have sent a correction!! She is 28 years old according to image.

1911 Wales Census
Name: Janny Georcing Green
Age in 1911: 8
Estimated birth year: abt 1903
Relation to Head: Wife
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Somerset, England
Civil Parish: Risca
County/Island: Monmouthshire
Country: Wales
Street address: 28 Tredegar Ter Cross Keys Mon
Marital Status: Married
Years Married: 6
Estimated Marriage Year: 1905
Registration district: Newport
Registration District Number: 587
Sub-registration district: Rogerstone

John Green 32
Janny Georcing Green 8
Lilian Christina Green 3
Gladys Vera Green

1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census


First Name GEORGINA
Last Name JENNINGS
Birth Year 1880
Age 11
Birth County SOMERSETSHIRE
Birth Town
Birth Place
Relationship To Head of Household INMATE
Gender Female
Occupation SCHOLAR
Condition SINGLE
Street
Parish WINCANTON
Town WINCANTON
City
County Somerset
Country ENGLAND
Ecclesiastical District WINCANTON
Enumeration District 11
Municipal Ward
Parliamentary Borough EAST SOMERSET
Registration District WINCANTON
Category Census, Land & Surveys
Record set 1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Collections from Great Britain
Archive Reference RG12
Folio 121
Page 1
Piece Number 1903

Just for ref

Marriages Dec 1863 (>99%)
Jennings Orlando Yeovil 5c 911
Lockett Mary Ann Yeovil 5c 911


Deaths Dec 1876 (>99%)
Jennings Orlando 44 Wells 5c 368

1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census



Household Information

Street PAUL STREET
Parish SHEPTON MALLET
Town
City
County Somerset
Country ENGLAND
Ecclesiastical District
Enumeration District 8
Municipal Ward
Parliamentary Borough
Registration District SHEPTON MALLET
Category Census, Land & Surveys
Record set 1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census

Person 1

First Name ORLANDO
Last Name JENNINGS
Birth Year 1837
Age 34
Birth Place
Birth Town
Birth County SOMERSET
Gender Male
Relationship To Head of Household HEAD
Occupation
Condition
Collections from Great Britain
Archive Reference RG10
Folio 9
Page 10
Piece Number 2443

Person 2

First Name MARY A
Last Name JENNINGS
Birth Year 1845
Age 26
Birth Place
Birth Town
Birth County SOMERSET
Gender Female
Relationship To Head of Household WIFE
Occupation
Condition
Collections from Great Britain
Archive Reference RG10
Folio 9
Page 10
Piece Number 2443

Person 3

First Name SARAH
Last Name JENNINGS
Birth Year 1863
Age 8
Birth Place
Birth Town
Birth County SOMERSET
Gender Female
Relationship To Head of Household DAUGHTER
Occupation
Condition
Collections from Great Britain
Archive Reference RG10
Folio 9
Page 10
Piece Number 2443

Person 4

First Name JANE
Last Name JENNINGS
Birth Year 1865
Age 6
Birth Place
Birth Town
Birth County SOMERSET
Gender Female
Relationship To Head of Household DAUGHTER
Occupation
Condition
Collections from Great Britain
Archive Reference RG10
Folio 9
Page 10
Piece Number 2443

Person 5

First Name FREDERICK C
Last Name JENNINGS
Birth Year 1867
Age 4
Birth Place
Birth Town
Birth County SOMERSET
Gender Male
Relationship To Head of Household SON
Occupation
Condition
Collections from Great Britain
Archive Reference RG10
Folio 9
Page 10
Piece Number 2443

Person 6

First Name ANN
Last Name JENNINGS
Birth Year 1870
Age 1
Birth Place
Birth Town
Birth County SOMERSET
Gender Female
Relationship To Head of Household DAUGHTER
Occupation
Condition
Collections from Great Britain
Archive Reference RG10
Folio 9
Page 10
Piece Number 2443

I think you have to buy the birth certificate that brummiejan posted ........


that's the only way you will get at the truth.



the truth is not always told re father's name and / or occupation on marriage certificates ................... either deliberately or because the truth is not known.

A father who is said to be 'deceased' on a marriage cert is sometimes non-existent

Hello Gwendolione and welcome to the Community boards.






I will let Gwendolione know how to find her replies. :-)

Thank you all so much. As there seems to be no birth record of Fanny and after many hours of searching, I am going to give up looking.
I think the Georgina b 1878 in Wincanton shown on 1881 Census is possibly correct even though birthdates are a bit different. She may have dropped her first name of Fanny as there was another inmate called Fanny at that time in the workhouse.
I am now reaching the conclusion that she was illegitimate, possibly of Sarah Jennings aged 18 or maybe even Frederick aged 14. perhaps she considered this Frederick as a father figure and that's why she put his name on marriage cert.
Thanks again everyone

Orlando had a brother Frederick also, Fanny Georgina's uncle, perhaps he was the Frederick named on the the marriage cert if it was the name she remembered?

Taunton Courier, and Western Advertiser 26 June 1895

WINCANTON PETTY SESSIONS
A BAD BEGINNING- A girl inmate of the workhouse, named Georgina Jennings, was charged with refusing to do work allotted to her on the previous Saturday- The Matron (Mrs Barnes) and the cook (Mrs Dimmock) spoke to the girl's refusal to clean windows when requested to do so. The Matron added that the girl had given a great deal of trouble, and on account of her bad behaviour had had to leave five situations.- The Chairman remarked that as a member of the Board of Guardians he knew the girl had been lectured several times for her bad behaviour.- She could offer no excuse for her conduct, and the bench thought it best she should be sent to gaol for seven days hard labour.

Frederick Jennings 1837 her Uncle went to Australia 1857.

A Sarah Jennings married John Kiddle 1884 in Wincanton she died 1847,a tree on Ancestry has her with parents Orlando (died 1876)and Mary Ann locket.

Mary Ann married James Humphries born 1831 married in 1896 died she 1899.

Maryb.

Looking at t he image of that 1881 Census


I think it is clear that Sarah is her mother.




Other information from the image ...........


Mary Ann Jennings 36 b.ca 1845, Babcary, Somerset, Inmate, Widow, Seamstress
Frederick Charles Jennings 14 b.ca 1867, Shepton Mallet, Somerset, Inmate, Scholar
Ann Jennings 11 b.ca 1870, Shepton Mallet, Inmate, Scholar
Kate Jennings 8 b.ca 1873, Shepton Mallet, Inmate, Scholar
William Thomas Jennings 5 b.ca 1876, castle Cary, Somerset, Inmate, Scholar
Agnes Alice Jennings 1 b.ca 1880, Ansford, Somerset, Inmate
Sarah Jennings 18 b. ca 1863, Queen Camel, Somerset, Inmate, Unmarried, Domestic Servant
Georgina Jennings 1 b. ca 1880, Wincanton, Somerset, Inmate

According to the 1871 Census on ancestry .............. whchh gives more information than the GR version posted above


Orlando Jennings 34 b.ca 1837, North Cadbury, Somerset, Coachman (Domestic Servant)
Mary A Jennings 26 b.ca 1845, Queen Camel, Somerset
Sarah Jennings 8 b.ca 1863, Queen Camel
Jane Jennings 6 b.ca 1865, Shepton Mallet, Somerset
Frederick C Jennings 4 b.ca 1867, Shepton Mallet
Ann Jennings 1 b.ca 1870, Shepton Mallet

Address:- Paul Street, Shepton Mallet

Gwendoline ..................


Fanny probably never knew her father, may be she assumed that one of the two Frederick's was her father, maybe she just decided to put that name on the marriage because "it looked better for the in-laws"


But if Sarah is her mother .................. then you do knwo that orlando and mary are her grandparents.


I still think you have to buy that birth certificate!

a Public Family Tree on ancestry has the following information on Fanny ....... but no documentation as to how she knows the exact date




Fanny Georgina Jennings
Birth 05 Nov 1879 in Union Workhouse, Wincanton, Somerset,



IF this is true .............. then that Birth Registration that was posted above probably is the correct one.



Don't forget ..................... the name of babies could be added to or even changed at baptism ............... and the Workhouse would probably have insisted on babies being baptised.


So she could have been registered as Georgina ............. and the Fanny added at baptism