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Florence Margaret Holland nee Barrow

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Carol

Carol Report 11 Aug 2014 16:48

Has anyone any suggestions that could help me, I'm trying to find my grandmothers past the only information I have is as follows marriage cert. on 27/06/1909 Florence Margaret Barrow age 21 father Richard Barrow deceased occupation sailor, on her death 1973 it has her birth down as 18/11/1887 I applied for birth cert. no luck there. I can find Florence Barrow 1901 census inmate 49 Peel St. Toxteth . I have asked relatives about her past they all say the same she never spoke about her childhood she was orphaned at an early age we think she might have has a brother. I tend to think she was illegitimate. here's hoping someone can help.
Carol

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 11 Aug 2014 16:59

for our reference:


1901 England Census about Florence Barrow
Name: Florence Barrow
Age: 14
Estimated birth year: abt 1887
Relation to Head: Inmate
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: Toxteth Park
Ecclesiastical parish: St Paul
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: Toxteth Park
Sub-registration district: Toxteth Park
ED, institution, or vessel: 71
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 3436
Folio: 15
Page Number: 21
Household schedule number: 112
Household Members:
Name Age
Martha Twining 51
Agnes McDonald 40
Elizabeth Pemberton 33
Ellen Steele 20
Beatrice Spencer 16
Ellen Peak 11
Ethel Carter 14
Georgina Steell 12
Henrietta Hockley 14
Rhoda Shimmen 16
Ellen Irvine 12
May R??yneston 14
Kate Craig 14
Sarah Moses 15
Florence Part 14
Florence Barrow 14
(and many others)

Gritty

Gritty Report 11 Aug 2014 17:00

1911

Florence M Holland
Age in 1911: 23
Estimated birth year: abt 1888
Relation to Head: Wife
Birth Place: Liverpool
Civil Parish: Toxteth Park
County/Island: Lancashire
Street address: 40 Enid Street Liverpool
Marital Status: Married
Registration district: Toxteth Park
Registration District Number: 454
Sub-registration district: Toxteth Park Central
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Piece: 22253

William Henry Holland 23
Florence M Holland 23
Frances Alice Holland 15/12

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 11 Aug 2014 17:01

Hi there Carol -= welcome to the boards :-)

Name: Florence Margaret Barrow
Event Type: Marriage
Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun
Registration Year: 1909
Registration District: Toxteth Park
County: Lancashire
Event Place: Toxteth Park, Lancashire, England
Volume: 8B
Page: 285
Line Number: 69

Florence Margaret Barrow probably married one of the following people
Name: William Edward Hamilton
Name: William Henry Holland

Thelma

Thelma Report 11 Aug 2014 17:02

Different person?
1891 England Census about Florence M Barrow
Name: Florence M Barrow
Age: 2
Estimated birth year: abt 1889
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Thomas Barrow
Mother's name: Charlotte Barrow
Gender: Female
Where born: Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: Kirkdale
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: West Derby
Sub-registration district: Kirkdale
ED, institution, or vessel: 17
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 2962
Folio: 20
Page Number: 33
Household Members:
Name Age
Thomas Barrow 30
Charlotte Barrow 29
John F Barrow 3
Florence M Barrow 2
Alice C Lepp 67

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 11 Aug 2014 17:02

Name: Florence M Barrow
Event Type: Census
Event Date: 31 Mar 1901
Gender: Female
Age: 8
Relationship to Head of Household: Daughter
Birthplace: Lancaster, Lancashire
Schedule Type: Household
Registration District: Lancaster
Sub-District: Lancaster
Ecclesiastical Parish: Lancaster Christ Church
Civil Parish: Lancaster
District/Parish/County: Lancashire

Thelma

Thelma Report 11 Aug 2014 17:03

Maybe maybe not

England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915 about Florence Madeline Barrow
Name: Florence Madeline Barrow
Registration Year: 1889
Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar
Registration district: West Derby
Parishes for this Registration District: View Ecclesiastical Parishes associated with this Registration District
Inferred County: Lancashire
Volume: 8b
Page: 460

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 11 Aug 2014 17:08

Maybe her father??


1881 England Census about Richard Barrow
Name: Richard Barrow
Age: 20
Estimated birth year: abt 1861
Gender: Male
Where born: Newburgh, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: Vessels
County/Island: Cumberland
Country: England
Street address: "Kate"
Occupation: Able Seaman <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Registration district: Morpeth
Sub-registration district: Bedlington
ED, institution, or vessel: Kate
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 5119
Folio: 117
Page Number: -8
Household Members:
Name Age
Robert Bell 65
Susannah Bell 57
Robert Bell 7
Ann Lyall
Davison Short 56
Jacob Wyman 29
Gordon John Ross 28
William Purdy 28
John Hendersen 44
Henry Ludson 24
Pehr Nelson 27
Jovette Robsheau 38
August Heggblom 25
William Johnston 28
Robert Buchanan 21
George Ryder 16
Hubert Smith 37
William Beckett 41
George Sloan 29
James Iddon 26
James Tomlinson 25
Edward Anderson 39
Henry Holmes 54
Isaac Holmes 25
Richard Barrow 20
(and many others)



???

1871 England Census about Richard Barrow
Name: Richard Barrow
Age: 9
Estimated birth year: abt 1862
Relation: Son
Mother's name: Betsey Barrow
Gender: Male
Where born: Lathom, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: Lathom
Town: Newburgh <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Registration district: Ormskirk
Sub-registration district: Lathom
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Household schedule number: 47
Piece: 3880
Folio: 52
Page Number: 8
Household Members:
Name Age
Betsey Barrow 49 - widow
Margaret Barrow 12
Richard Barrow 9
William Barrow 7

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 11 Aug 2014 17:13

Just possibly his death???

Deaths Sep 1895 (>99%)
Barrow Richard 35 Hull 9d 239

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 11 Aug 2014 18:29

1891

Name: Richard Barrow
Age: 29
Estimated birth year: abt 1862
Relation: Crew
Gender: Male
Where born: Newbury, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: Vessels
Town: Teignmouth Harbour
County/Island: Devon
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: SINGLE

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: Newton Abbot
Sub-registration district: Teignmouth
ED, institution, or vessel: Emily Warbreck
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 1694
Folio: 110

Carol

Carol Report 11 Aug 2014 18:50

Thanks for prompt replies, does anyone know if 49 Peel st Toxteth was a poor house if so would there be records of inmates and their parents

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 11 Aug 2014 20:40

Looking at the image of that Census ...................


49 Peel Street, Toxteth looks as though it was a big house, with many other residences around, occupied by professional people.


ALL the "inmates" are young girls between the ages of about 9 and 16, and most of them are from the Liverpool area There is one "inmate" apparently born in Australia, and a few in other counties in England.


The only ones that are not shown as "inmate" are the following .......

Martha Twining 51 Matron of Institution
Agnes McDonald 40 School Mistress
Elizabeth Pemberton 33 Servant
Ellen Steele 20 Laundress

Beatrice Spencer 16 Inmate
Ellen Peak 11
Ethel Carter 14



I would suggest that this is a school for orphaned girls

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 11 Aug 2014 20:46

AH HA


I found the first page for Enumeration District 071 .......... the district including 49 Peel Street


and there is this information ........................



Includes [the] Boiler Makers Iron and Steel Ship Builders Orphanage 45 Peel Street, and [the] Girls Preventive Home 49 Peel Street



so it was a Home and School for girls who might be in danger of ???? (something!)



Try Google!

Rambling

Rambling Report 11 Aug 2014 20:58

As Sylvia has found it was a "preventive home", there also in 1891

http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=41378

scroll down for "Homes, orphanages etc"

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 11 Aug 2014 21:04

I think Preventive Homes trained girls for service and domesticity



try this link, it refers specifically to the one at 49 Peel Street


http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/ENG-LIVERPOOL/2006-10/1162076378

Carol

Carol Report 12 Aug 2014 13:15

Once again thanks for prompt replies looks like I have a lot of research to do ;-)