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Esther
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10 Aug 2014 18:29 |
Hi I'm trying to figure out the situation of my ancestor Phoebe Lewis. Her parents are Levi and Margaret Lewis, she married Ebenezer Protheroe in 1865 and had 3 children Cathrine, James and Eleazer. Sadly Ebenezer dies in 1870 when the youngest child isn't even 1 year old. After that everyone seems to split up and I'm finding it hard putting the pieces together. If you could at all help that would be wonderful thank you.
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10 Aug 2014 18:36 |
for ref
1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Household Information
Street PWLLFA ROAD Parish ABERDARE Town City County Glamorganshire Country WALES Ecclesiastical District Enumeration District 37 Municipal Ward 4 Parliamentary Borough MERTHYR TYDFIL Registration District MERTHYR TYDFIL Category Census, Land & Surveys Record set 1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Person 1
First Name PHEOBE Last Name PROTHEROE Birth Year 1845 Age 26 Birth Place Birth Town Birth County PEMBROKESHIRE Gender Female Relationship To Head of Household HEAD Occupation Condition Collections from Great Britain Archive Reference RG10 Folio 126 Page 50 Piece Number 5410
Person 2
First Name CATHERINE Last Name PROTHEROE Birth Year 1867 Age 4 Birth Place Birth Town Birth County GLAMORGAN Gender Female Relationship To Head of Household DAUGHTER Occupation Condition Collections from Great Britain Archive Reference RG10 Folio 126 Page 50 Piece Number 5410
Person 3
First Name JAMES Last Name PROTHEROE Birth Year 1868 Age 3 Birth Place Birth Town Birth County GLAMORGAN Gender Male Relationship To Head of Household SON Occupation Condition Collections from Great Britain Archive Reference RG10 Folio 126 Page 50 Piece Number 5410
Person 4
First Name ELEAZER Last Name PROTHEROE Birth Year 1869 Age 2 Birth Place Birth Town Birth County GLAMORGAN Gender Male Relationship To Head of Household SON Occupation Condition Collections from Great Britain Archive Reference RG10 Folio 126 Page 50 Piece Number 5410
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Chris Ho :)
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10 Aug 2014 18:36 |
http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1301834
(above had a Marriage suggestion for Phoebe 1874)
Chris :)
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10 Aug 2014 18:56 |
1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census
First Name ELEAZER Last Name PROTHEROE Birth Year 1869 Age 12 Birth Place WALES Birth Town ABERDARE Birth County GLAMORGANSHIRE Relationship To Head of Household BOARDER Gender Male Occupation SCHOLAR Condition SINGLE Street KINGSBURY PLACE Parish ABERDARE Town City County Glamorganshire Country WALES Registration District MERTHYR TYDFIL Category Census, Land & Surveys Record set 1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census Collections from Great Britain Archive Reference RG11 Folio 151 Page 32 Piece Number 5324
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10 Aug 2014 19:38 |
1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription St Joseph Terrace, Aberdare, Merthyr Tydfil, Glamorganshire, Wales Print household transcription Household Members First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital condition Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place Thomas Richards Head Married Male 42 1849 Coal Miner Glamorganshire Image Transcription Ann Richards Wife Married Female 40 1851 - Glamorganshire Image Transcription John Richards Son Single Male 12 1879 Coal Miner Glamorganshire Image Transcription Thomas Richards Son Single Male 10 1881 Scholar Glamorganshire Image Transcription Margaret Phillips Niece Single Female 15 1876 Nurse Domestic Glamorganshire Image Transcription Isaac Ridout Boarder Single Male 48 1843 Coal Miner Monmouthshire Image Transcription David Davies Boarder Single Male 22 1869 Coal Miner Glamorganshire Image Transcription Eleazer Prothero Boarder Single Male 22 1869 Coal Miner Glamorganshire
Street St Joseph Terrace Parish Aberdare Town Forchaman City Aberdare
1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription 1, Railway Row, Aberdare, Merthyr Tydfil, Glamorganshire, Wales Print household transcription Household Members First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital condition Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place Eleazer Prothero Head Married Male 32 1869 Undergd Haulier Cwmaman, Glamorganshire Image Transcription Ellen Prothero Wife Married Female 29 1872 - Rhymney, Glamorganshire Image Transcription John Prothero Son Single Male 8 1893 In School Rhymney, Glamorganshire Image Transcription Elizth Prothero Daughter Single Female 6 1895 In School Cwman, Glamorganshire Image Transcription Evan Jas Prothero Son Single Male 4 1897 In School Cwman, Glamorganshire Image Transcription David Emlyn Prothero Son Single Male 1 1900 - Cwman, Glamorganshire
1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription 11 Railway Row Cwmaman, Aberdare, Glamorganshire, Wales Print household transcription Household Members First name(s) Last name Relationship to household head Marital condition Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place Eleazer Protheroe Head Married Male 42 1869 Collier Glamorganshire Aberdare Image Transcription Ellen Protheroe Wife Married Female 39 1872 - Monmouthshire Rhymney Image Transcription John Protheroe Son Single Male 18 1893 Collier Glamorganshire Aberdare Image Transcription Elizabeth Jane Protheroe Daughter Single Female 16 1895 Working For The Home Glamorganshire Aberdare Image Transcription Evan James Protheroe Son Single Male 14 1897 Boy Collier Glamorganshire Aberdare Image Transcription David Emlyn Protheroe Son Single Male 11 1900 In School Glamorganshire Aberdare Image Transcription Catherine May Protheroe Daughter Single Female 9 1902 In School Glamorganshire Aberdare Image Transcription Eleanor Protheroe Daughter - Female 7 1904 In School Glamorganshire Aberdare Image Transcription Eleazer Protheroe Son - Male 6 1905 In School Glamorganshire Aberdare Image Transcription Johnah Protheroe Son - Male 4 1907 In School Glamorganshire Aberdare Image Transcription Dilys Golenddydd Protheroe Daughter - Female 1 1910 - Glamorganshire Aberdare
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Home Office: Calendar of prisons Transcription Print individual transcription View image First name(s) Eleazar Last name Protheroe Age 19 Occupation Collier Birth year 1869 Year 1888 Session commencing day 03 Session commencing month Jan Place Glamorganshire Court Cardiff Victim's first name(s)/alias John Victim's last name Davies Source A Calendar Of Prisoners Tried At The General Quarter Sessions Of The Peace - Epiphany Series HO140 Piece number 103
He and another man were convicted of unlawfully wounding John Davies. Both sentenced to 3 months hard labour.
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alviegal
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10 Aug 2014 19:43 |
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England & Wales deaths 1837-2007 Transcription Print individual transcription View image First name(s) ELEAZER Last name PROTHEROE Gender Male Birth day - Birth month - Birth year 1870 Age 74 Death quarter 1 Death year 1944 District PONTYPRIDD County Glamorganshire Volume 11A Page 479
England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index, 1837-1915 about Eleazer Protheroe Name: Eleazer Protheroe Registration Year: 1892 Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep Registration district: Merthyr Tydfil Parishes for this Registration District: View Ecclesiastical Parishes associated with this Registration District Inferred County: Glamorgan Volume: 11a Page: 839 Records on Page: Name Harriet Ann Howells Evan Jones >>Ellen Lewis >>Eleazer Protheroe
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10 Aug 2014 19:58 |
1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Senghenydd Street, Ystradyfodwg, Pontypridd, Glamorganshire, Wales Print household transcription Household Members First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital condition Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place John Morris Head Married Male 41 1850 Coalminer Monmouthshire Image Transcription Hannah Morris Wife Married Female 40 1851 - Carmarthenshire, Pontybreem Image Transcription Esther Morris Daughter Single Female 19 1872 Dressmaker Glamorganshire Image Transcription William Jno Morris Son - Male 15 1876 Coalminer Glamorganshire Image Transcription David Morris Son - Male 11 1880 Scholar Glamorganshire Image Transcription James Protheroe Lodger Single Male 24 1867 Coalminer Cwmaman Glamorganshire
1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription 9, Kingsbury Place, Aberdare, Merthyr Tydfil, Glamorganshire, Wales Print household transcription Household Members First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital condition Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place James Protheroe Head Married Male 34 1867 Colliery Hauler Cwmaman, Glamorganshire Image Transcription Elizabeth Protheroe Wife Married Female 31 1870 - Cwmaman, Glamorganshire Image Transcription Letitia J Morgan Step Daughter Single Female 8 1893 - Cwmaman, Glamorganshire Image Transcription John J Protheroe Son Single Male 1 1900 - Cwmaman, Glamorganshire
1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription 7 Kingsbury Place, Aberdare, Glamorganshire, Wales Print household transcription Household Members First name(s) Last name Relationship to household head Marital condition Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place James Protheroe Head Married Male 44 1867 Colliery Horse Driver Below Ground Glamorgan Aberdare Image Transcription Elizabeth Protheroe Wife Married Female 40 1871 - Glamorgan Aberdare Image Transcription John James Protheroe Son - Male 11 1900 - Glamorgan Aberdare Image Transcription Margaret Ann Protheroe Daughter - Female 8 1903 - Glamorgan Aberdare
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Esther
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10 Aug 2014 20:02 |
Wow, didn't know my great great grandfather had been in prison. Would there be any newspaper articles on it?
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Chris Ho :)
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10 Aug 2014 20:06 |
http://cymru1914.org/en/view/newspaper/3580877/3
(Acknowledment, from Eleazer on above)
Chris :)
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Esther
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10 Aug 2014 20:24 |
Thanks chris these are great.
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Esther
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10 Aug 2014 20:32 |
Is there anyway of finding out who it was that died?
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Esther
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10 Aug 2014 20:39 |
Just one this about Pheobe's parents, I think it's in the 1881 census, it lists Phoebe living with them and a lot of children. All the children are listed as 'Lewis' but one thing surprise me that she is listed as Lewis again. Is this a mistake or has she had a lot of children out of we'd lock or has she married a Lewis?
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10 Aug 2014 20:46 |
copied over from the original thread
marriage suggestion for Phoebe
Marriages Dec 1874 (>99%) Griffiths Elizabeth Merthyr T. 11a 785 Scan available - click to view Martin Charles Merthyr T. 11a 785 Scan available - click to view Protheroe Phoebe Merthyr T. 11a 785 Scan available - click to view Williams John Merthyr T. 11a 785
Phoebe married either Charles Martin OR John Williams
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Choccy
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10 Aug 2014 21:02 |
Can't see Phoebe in 1881 -
perhaps this is her ??
Deaths Dec 1879
Martin Phoebe 35 Merthyr T. 11a 241
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Esther
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10 Aug 2014 21:07 |
No they spelt her name wrong, if you put Levi Lewis born 1810 it will come up.
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SylviaInCanada
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10 Aug 2014 21:45 |
this is the 1881 Census
1881 Census
Name: Phebe Lewis Age: 34 Estimated birth year: abt 1847 Relation: Daughter Father's Name: Levi Lewis Mother's name: Margaret Lewis Gender: Female Where born: Llanfyrnach, Pembrokeshire, Wales Civil Parish: Llanfyrnach County/Island: Pembrokeshire Country: Wales Street address: Tynnos Education: View image Employment status: View image Registration district: Newcastle In Emyln Sub-registration district: Kenarth Levi Lewis 71 Margaret Lewis 68 Phebe Lewis 34 Dan Lewis 7 Arthur Lewis 2 David Lewis 12 Angelina Lewis 9
are you SURE that this is YOUR Phoebe??
Are you certain that Levi is her father??
why???
there are quite a lot of Phoebe Lewis' around!
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10 Aug 2014 21:53 |
Name Age Levi Lewis 71 Margaret Lewis 68 Phebe Lewis 34 Dan Lewis 7 b.ca 1874, Llanfyrnach, Pembrokeshire, Wales, Grandson Arthur Lewis 2 b.ca 1879, Llanfyrnach, Pembrokeshire, Wales, Grandson David Lewis 12 b.ca 1869, Llaninrwg, Glamorgan, Wales, Grandson Angelina Lewis 9 b.ca 1872, Llaninrwg, Glamorgan, Wales, Grandson
Now ...................
David and Angeina might not this Phebe's children ............. just because of the way they are listed.
But note that YOUR Phoebe was born in Lambo, and had Eleazar in 1869
Name: Pheobe Protheroe Age: 26 Estimated birth year: abt 1845 Relation: Head Gender: Female Where born: Lambo, Pembrokeshire, Wales Civil Parish: Aberdare Town: [Forchaman] County/Island: Glamorgan Country: Wales Registration district: Merthyr Tydfil Sub-registration district: Aberdare
Pheobe Protheroe 26 Catherine Protheroe 4 James Protheroe 3 Eleazer Protheroe 2 b.ca 1869, Cwmam, Glamorganshire, Wales
seriously .................. I don't think Phebe Lewis in the 1881 is Phoebe Prothero
you're up the wrong tree
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10 Aug 2014 21:55 |
Have you bought the marriage certificate for Phoebe and Ebenezer?
If not, you should buy ASAP ............... that will tell you the name of her father, and help in finding her family before she married
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Esther
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11 Aug 2014 08:58 |
OK, will do. Thank you very much
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