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FIRST THANK YOU FOR EVERYONE THAT AS HELP ME IN THE PAST, BUT I NEED YOUR HELP AGAIN I FOUND BY CHANCE THAT MY DAD WHO WE ALL KNEW AS THE ELDEST OF THE FAMILY I FOUND A ELDER BROTHER ON OBTAINING IS BIRTH CERTIFICATE I FOUND THAT HE WAS BORN ON 27/11/1903 AT 62 WATERGATE STREET DEPTFORD TO MY NAN ELIZABETH NAYLAN FORMERLY WARD BUT I CANNOT FIND A DEATH CERTIFICATE AND WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE 1911 CENSUS HE HIS NOT WITH THE FAMILY WHO HAD BY THEN MOVED TO 28 CROSSFIELD STREET DEPTFORD. ANY HELP WOULD BE APPRECIATED.

Does it say on the census that any children have died?

Hi

An alternative spelling, there is no birth for a man (Eng/Wales) with this name?



England & Wales, Death Index, 1916-2007

Name:James Neylan

Birth Date:abt 1902

Date of Registration:Mar 1954

Age at Death:52

Registration district:Hampstead

Inferred County:London

Volume:5c
Page 943

This is the family at 28 crossfield in 1911 but only 2 children born and survived, mother's name is not Elizabeth ?
Name: Mary Naylon
Age in 1911: 0
Estimated birth year: abt 1911
Relation to Head: Daughter
Gender: Female
Birth Place: DEPTFORD, England
Civil Parish: Deptford St Paul
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street address: 28 Crossfield Street, Deptford
Registration district: Greenwich
Registration District Number: 28
Sub-registration district: Deptford East
ED, institution, or vessel: 11
Piece: 2634
Household Members:
Name Age
James Naylon 40
Amelia Naylon 39
John Naylon 2
Mary Naylon 0

The family at 64 Watergate are the Nealon family ( Michael and Mary) which is very close to the name, but they do not have any children,

Rosie, can you see a marriage between 'Ward & 'Naylon?

I can't see one at all

No I can't Gins :-S

Scratch that lol!

Amelia
Marriages Dec 1912 (>99%)

Naylon James Ward Greenwich 1d 2034
Ward Amelia Naylon Greenwich 1d 2034

Amelia our OP is obviously named after grandmother, so not sure that Elizabeth has any connection?

Amelia can you please say if you have found Elizabeth anywhere other than the birth cert for James born 1904?

Confused.com !!

:-)

so if James and Amelia didn't marry till 1912, but say on 1911 they have been married 3 years it looks possible that there was a previous marriage?

Of course but why her maiden name be 'Ward'

:-S

Right different spelling but this looks like a possible for James, right age right place

1891 England Census about James Nailon
Name: James Nailon
Age: 19
Estimated birth year: abt 1872
Relation: Son
Father's Name: James Nailon
Mother's name: Catherine Nailon
Gender: Male
Where born: Deptford
Civil Parish: St Nicholas
Ecclesiastical parish: St Nicholas
Town: Deptford
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: Greenwich
Sub-registration district: St Nicholas Deptford
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 507
Folio: 38
Page Number: 3
Household Members:
Name Age
James Nailon 52
Catherine Nailon 42
John Nailon 25
James Nailon 19 <<<<<
Mary Nailon 20
Elizabeth Doyle 27
Benjamin Doyle 28
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in 1919/1920/24 electoral rolls there is a James Neilan at 28 Crossfield Deptford...most confusing!

and in 1927 he is there with Amelia.

Put on a new thread

"SORRY MY ENQUIRES SHOULD HAVE SAID MY NAN WAS AMELIA NAYLAN NEE WARD AND YES THE NAME NAYLAN NEILAN NEELAN AND MANY OTHER VARIOUS SPELLING WAS THE SAME FAMILY BUT WAS ALWAYS DEPTFORD/ GREENWICH AREA."

THanks MC

another possible variant of name though it may not be the same family

1901 England Census about James Nelan
Name: James Nelan
Age: 24
Estimated birth year: abt 1877
Relation to Head: Son
Gender: Male
Mother: Eliza Nelan
Birth Place: Rotherhithe, London, England
Civil Parish: Deptford St Paul
Ecclesiastical parish: St Luke
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: Greenwich
Sub-registration district: Deptford, North
ED, institution, or vessel: 14
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 525
Folio: 119
Page Number: 3
Household schedule number: 12
Household Members:
Name Age
Eliza Nelan 28
Alice Nelan 26
Mary Nelan 24
James Nelan 24
William Nelan 19
Albert Nelan 19

Amelia on the birth cert that you have for James born 1903, as well as having Amelia as mother does it have James as the father?

Wondering about this


1881 England Census

Name:Amelia Ward

Age:8

Estimated birth year:abt 1873

Relationship to Head:Daughter

Mother:
Mary A. Ward

Gender:Female

Where born:Deptford, Kent, England

Civil Parish:Deptford St Paul

County/Island:London


Street address:5 Cottage Pl


Occupation:Scholar

Registration district:
Greenwich

Sub-registration district:St Paul Deptford

ED, institution, or vessel:25
Piece:706
Folio:83
Page Number:33

Household Members:


Mary A. Ward 46
Charles Ward 19
James Ward 17
Matilda Ward 15
George Ward 10
Amelia Ward 8
Daniel Ward 3

Don't put this in your tree, as yet!



London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906

Name:Amelia Ward

Record Type:Baptism

Baptism Date:7 Dec 1873

Father's Name:
Robert Ward <<Lab

Mother's name:
Mary Ann Ward

Parish or Poor Law Union:Deptford St Paul

Borough:Lewisham

Register Type:Parish Registers

James NAYLAN (on a Family Tree..Ancestry):
27 Nov1903 62 Watergate Street, Deptford North, Greenwich, London
Registered by Hannah Brosnan present at the birth. Living at 28 Crossfield Lane, Deptford, London
.............
1901 England Census Ancestry
Name: Hannah Brosnan
Age: 48
Estimated birth year: abt 1853
Relation to Head: Wife
Gender: Female
Spouse: William Brosnan
Birth Place: Deptford
Civil Parish: St Paul
Ecclesiastical parish: St Paul
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street address:28 Crossfield

Registration district: Greenwich
Sub-registration district: Deptford, North
William Brosnan 52
Hannah Brosnan 48
Jane Anes 52
George Anes 19
Alice Anes 4
John Thornton 65
William Chessman 20
Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 523; Folio: 55; Page: 6.
........

That's about all I can add. :-S

Maureen