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Arthur Dimmock Luton Bedfordshire

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The_Ancient_One

The_Ancient_One Report 8 Aug 2014 10:37

Can someone offer some help/advice please.
I wish to order the birth certificate for Arthur Dimmock born c.1899, mother Annie with brothers Gilbert, Archibald, and Alexander. I have found Arthur on the 1901 and 1911 census returns. However my problem is that I cannot find a separate birth record for him and thus the GRO references to order the certificate. Am I missing the obvious?
Any instructions/advice would be most welcome.

Rambling

Rambling Report 8 Aug 2014 10:47

There are these two

Births Mar 1898 (>99%)
Dimmock Arthur John Luton 3b 407

Births Jun 1898 (>99%)
Dimmock Arthur William Luton 3b 436

But it isn't Arthur John I don't think as he appears on 1911 with other parents.though his age is out by a year or so.

Rambling

Rambling Report 8 Aug 2014 10:52

Did Arthur marry ? if so did he have a middle initial on the cert?

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 8 Aug 2014 10:53

Possible?

Births Jun 1898 (>99%)
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Dimmock Arthur William Luton 3b 436

If he hadn't had his birthday yet when the census was taken he would be listed as 2 years old.

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 8 Aug 2014 10:56

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England & Wales, Marriage Index, 1916-2005
about Arthur W Dimmock Name:Arthur W Dimmock
Spouse Name: Julia V Coleman
Date of Registration:Oct-Nov-Dec 1919
Registration district:Luton
Inferred County:Bedfordshire
Volume Number:3b
Page Number:1270



England & Wales, Death Index, 1916-2007
about Arthur William Dimmock Name:Arthur William Dimmock
Birth Date:13 Apr 1898
Date of Registration:Dec 1974
Age at Death:76
Registration district:Torbay
Inferred County:Devon
Volume:21
Page:2247



England & Wales, Death Index, 1916-2007
about Julia Victoria Dimmock Name:Julia Victoria Dimmock
Birth Date:3 May 1897
Date of Registration:Feb 1992
Age at Death:94
Registration district:Luton
Inferred County:Bedfordshire, Hertfordshire
Volume:9
Page:599



England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
about Julia Victoria Coleman Name:Julia Victoria Coleman
Registration Year:1897
Registration Quarter:Apr-May-Jun
Registration district:Luton
Inferred County:Bedfordshire
Volume:3b
Page:400



MargaretM

MargaretM Report 8 Aug 2014 11:04

So the 1901 census was taken just 2 weeks before his 3rd birthday. It was taken 31 March.

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 8 Aug 2014 11:35

Further proof that it's the right Arthur...........


His Fathers probate......


England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1966
about Henry Charles Dimmock Name:Henry Charles Dimmock
Probate Date:8 Feb 1946
Death Date:19 Dec 1945
Death Place:Bedfordshire, England
Registry:Llandudno

Of 20 Gladstone Avenue, Luton, Bedforshire. At St May's Hospital 11a Dunstable Road.

To Gilbert Henry Charles Dimmock....hat warehouseman.

Effects: £238 4s 6d

(Gilbert's occupation on the 1911 census is........Straw Hat Warehouseman)

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 8 Aug 2014 11:41

England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1966
about Gilbert Henry Charles Dimmock Name:Gilbert Henry Charles Dimmock
Probate Date:8 Dec 1965
Death Date:25 Oct 1965
Death Place:Bedfordshire, England
Registry:London, England

Of 12 Kings Road, Flitwick, Bedfordshire. At Clapham Hospital, Bedfordshire.

To Eva May Riding married woman.

Effects: £756

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 8 Aug 2014 12:38

England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index, 1837-1915
about Gilbert H C Dimmock Name:Gilbert H C Dimmock
Registration Year:1910
Registration Quarter:Jul-Aug-Sep
Registration district:Luton
Inferred County:Bedfordshire
Volume:3b
Page:982

Matilda Cartwright
Gilbert H C Dimmock


Births Jun 1913 (>99%)
Dimmock Eva M Cartwright Luton 3b 699



England & Wales, Marriage Index, 1916-2005
about Eva M Dimmock Name:Eva M Dimmock
Spouse Name: John Riding
Date of Registration:Oct-Nov-Dec 1940
Registration district:Luton
Inferred County:Bedfordshire
Volume Number:3b
Page Number:1622






PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 8 Aug 2014 12:48

In case you don't have this....


British Army WWI Pension Records 1914-1920
about Gilbert Henry Charles Dimmock Name:Gilbert Henry Charles Dimmock Gender:Male
Birth Date:abt 1881
Marriage Date:3 Sep 1910
Marriage Place:Luton
Age:34
Document Year:1915
Residence Place:40 Naseby Rd Luton Beds
Regimental Number:6597
Regiment Name:C A M B S Regiment
Form Title:Short Service Attestation

Family Members:


Name
Relation to Soldier

Gilbert Henry Charles Dimmock Self (Head)
Matilda Cartright Spouse
Eva May Dimmock Dimmock Child
Frederick Charles Dimmock Dimmock Child



British Army WWI Pension Records 1914-1920
about Archibald George Dimmock Name:Archibald George Dimmock
Gender:Male
Birth Date:abt 1892
Age:24
Document Year:1916
Residence Place:32 Albert Rd, Luton
Regimental Number:26709
Regiment Name:Northamptonshire Regiment
Form Title:Short Service Attestation

Family Members:
Name
Relation to Soldier

Archibald George Dimmock Self (Head)
Harry Dimmock Father



British Army WWI Medal Rolls Index Cards, 1914-1920
about Archibald G Dimmock Name:Archibald G Dimmock
Regiment or Corps:Bedfordshire Regiment, orth'n R
Regimental Number:26709,43069

Prickles. x



MargaretM

MargaretM Report 8 Aug 2014 13:45

One thing to remember is that many people calculate a person's birth year by subtracting the age from the census year. In your case Arthur was 2 in 1901 so you calculated birth year as 1899. This doesn't take into account the fact that the census was taken so early in the year before most people had had their birthday. Thus the birth year was usually the year before what was calculated.

The_Ancient_One

The_Ancient_One Report 8 Aug 2014 15:22

To each and everyone who took the time and trouble to respond to my question, my sincere thanks for your efforts. In was not aware that Arthur's middle name was William but from the details supplied it is the correct Arthur as I have my own knowledge of the address in Flitwick. Another mystery concerning Arthur, and possibly other of his brothers, is that his Father does not show as part of the family on the 1911 census. However his father is on the 1911 but living in Mill Road Luton, not with his wife. I do not suppose the reasons for this will ever be known.
Once again many, many thanks for all the info my regards to you all.