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11 Aug 2014 14:40 |
Hello again Helen.The Malcolm Roderic Mathews who passed away last year is most likely to be descended from Harold Schuyler Mathews who arrived in USA about 1850.The funeral parlour said he had three sons. One of them is a doctor and I have e-mailed his practice but had no reply.There was no address for the other two.I tried again to find Roderic b.1833 but he seems to have escaped the system.He may have been deported to Australia for theft!!! Perhaps somebody out there knows where he went.
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Gritty
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6 Aug 2014 20:21 |
Dinner was fine- thankyou George. I do hope they make contact.
I just wish we knew what happened to Harold's brother, Roderic Malcolm Chalmers Mathews, after he joined the merchant navy. There could be many more descendants from his line.
All the best Helen
ps. I did find a small newspaper article regarding Roderic's prison sentence:
Preston Chronicle 31 January 1846 Roderic Malcolm Chalmers Mathews, a boy twelve years old, pleaded guilty to stealing a quantity of books and other articles, the property of Mr Birch, bookseller. He was sentenced to one months imprisonment.
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george
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6 Aug 2014 18:18 |
Thanks for the assistance in locating the modern day relatives of George Jebb Mathews and his son Harold Schuyler.I have sent them a message to make contact with me if they wish.Sadly the oldest relative passed away this year aged 90.I Should have asked for help sooner. A special thanks to Helen who I hope didn't soil her dinner
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Gritty
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6 Aug 2014 06:52 |
Roderick Malcolm Chalmers Mathews born c1833
Christened 29th Sept 1833 Blackrod Sentenced to 1 months imprisonment for theft in Jan 1846 (age 12) In 1847 he lied about his age and joined the merchant Navy- he gave his date of birth as 7th Aug 1830.
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Gritty
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5 Aug 2014 19:29 |
Details for Harold Schyler Mathews (son of James and grandson of Harold)
Name: Harold Schyler Mathews Birth Date: 01 Jun 1882 Birth Place: Philadelphia, Pa
Death Date: 02 Feb 1947 Death Place: Kanawha, West Virginia Age at Death: 64y 8m 1d Burial Place: Chasn Burial Date: 04 Feb 1947 Cemetery: Mt View Marital Status: M Spouse: Irene Taylor Mathews Occupation: President Of Mathews Printing Mother: Elizabeth Thompson Mother's Birth Place: Philadelphia, Pa Father: James Mathews Father's Birth Place: Philadelphia, Pa
Informant at death was a Mrs H S Mathews (H S= Harold Schuyler)
Harold and Irene had at least two children: Harold Schuyler Mathews 8 Oct 1914, who married Mildred Virginia Clark, and died 1990 West Virginia. Elizabeth Mathews b29 April 1912, who married James Beury and died 1944 West Virginia.
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Gritty
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5 Aug 2014 18:56 |
Details for- James' son, Malcolm Roderick Mathews
Malcolm Roderick Mathews B. 8th December 1885 Philadelphia Married Elizabeth N Connell in 1907 Died. 27 Jun 1972 Kanawha, West Virginia
Malcolm and Elizabeth had children
George- see this link, it has lots of information about Malcolm's son (Great grandson of Harold) who died very recently leaving a family:
http://pearsonfuneralhome.frontrunnerpro.com/book-of-memories/1767742/Mathews-Malcolm/obituary.php
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Gritty
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5 Aug 2014 18:24 |
With no other information found at present for Roderic Malcolm Chalmers Mathews, I'll concentrate on Harold's line.
This is details for James' son, Robert L Mathews (Harold's grandson)
Birth Date: 25 Dec 1883 Birthplace: Philadelphia, Pa.
Death Date: 24 Aug 1932 Death Place: Zanesville, Muskingum, Ohio Residence Place: Charleston, W. Va. Gender: Male Age: 48 Marital Status: Married Occupation: Printer Burial Date: 26 Aug 1932 Burial Place: Charleston, W. Va. Father's Name: James M. Mathews Father's Birthplace: Philadelphia, Pa. Mother's Name: Bessie B. Thompson Mother's Birthplace: Philadelphia, Pa.
Spouse's Name: Edith W.
On the 1930 US census Robert is a printing officer and is living in Charleston with his wife who is listed as Edith C (not W as on his death record). They married c 1920 and have no children living with them.
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Rambling
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5 Aug 2014 17:28 |
Baptism: 29 Sep 1833 St Katharine, Blackrod, Lancashire, England Roderic Malcolm Chalmers Matthews - son of Geo. Job Matthews & Alice Abode: Aspull Occupation: Schoolmaster Baptised by: J. Whitaker M.A. Curate Register: Baptisms 1832 - 1860, Page 27, Entry 213 Source: LDS Film 2148001
I didn't find that one ! as I was using full name of father
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Gritty
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5 Aug 2014 17:22 |
Possible for Roderick in 1841
Roderick Mathews Age: 7 Estimated birth year: abt 1834 Gender: Male Where born: Lancashire, England Civil Parish: Wigan Hundred: West Derby County/Island: Lancashire Registration district: Wigan Sub-registration district: Hindley Piece: 522 Book: 9 Folio: 31 Page Number: 17 Household Members: Name Age Mary Mathews 45 School Mistress Roderick Mathews 7
Edit: I wonder if this is the Mary that gave the book to George? and she has the school connection
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Gritty
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5 Aug 2014 17:07 |
Hold on Rose- another note from George, he forgot to mention:
"I have found the family history up to the time Harold emigrated.He also had a brother Roderic Malcolm Chalmers Mathews b.1833 At the age of 12 he was in Court for theft.I can find no record of him and wonder if he went with his brother to USA."
So there is another brother Roderic Malcolm - which ties in with the name of James' son.
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5 Aug 2014 16:59 |
Unfortunately I can only see the two children to George Jebb , and Thomas Quill died at age 6, so it will need to be the descendants of Harold,
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Gritty
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5 Aug 2014 16:48 |
Message from George:
"Hello Helen,2 years ago my 95 years old uncle passed away. He had given me a book of the works of Virgil.A name at the front was written.George Jebb Mathews of Blackrod given by him to Mary Ann Mathews of Blackrod.I couldn't find any family connection but my uncle was born near Blackrod.George's parents fr Liverpool are buried at Blackrod with one George' children.The book is dated 1811 and I found out George was a well educated teacher in the local schools but he died age 42 in 1834.The book will be of interest to his family if I find them."
So I think George is looking for Descendants of George Jebb Mathews so he can show them the book he has.
George- it's easier if you add your reply to the bottom of this page- that way everyone can see and you get more help.
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5 Aug 2014 16:17 |
James M Mathews married a Bessie B Thompson- confirmed by the death record of their son Robert in 1932 (details re familysearch)
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5 Aug 2014 15:59 |
Did you want details of James' children: Harold Schuyler Mathews, Malcolm Roderick Mathews and Robert L Mathews?
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5 Aug 2014 15:55 |
It seems James Married a Bessie B ? in c1881
Their eldest child was Harold Schuyler Matthews.
Here is James (widowed), his mother (widowed), and his three childen in 1900 (badly transcibed):
Name: James N Mathews Age: 47 Birth Date: Nov 1852 Birthplace: Pennsylvania Home in 1900: Clifton Heights, Delaware, Pennsylvania Relation to Head of House: Son Marital Status: Widowed Marriage Year: 1881 Years Married: 19 Father's Birthplace: New York Mother's name: Theasia N Mathews Mother's Birthplace: England Theasia N Mathews 69 James N Mathews 47 HAroldd S Mathews 18 Robert S Mathews 15 Malcom R Mathews 15 Schorbt Lentz 22
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5 Aug 2014 15:47 |
Name: Tresa Y. Mathews Event Date: 06 Nov 1911 Event Place: Charleston, Kanawha, West Virginia Gender: Female Age (Expanded): 80 years Birth Date: 1831 Birthplace: Marital Status: Widowed Spouse's Name: Father's Name: Father's Birthplace: Mother's Name: Mother's Birthplace: Occupation: Address: Residence Place: Cemetery: Burial Place: Burial Date: GS Film number: 460366 Digital Folder Number: 4226827 Image Number: 312 Affiliate Repository Type: County Records Reference ID: v 1 p 297
Citing this Record: "West Virginia Deaths, 1804-1999," index, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/NM27-2JX : accessed 05 Aug 2014), Tresa Y. Mathews, 06 Nov 1911; citing v 1 p 297, Charleston, Kanawha, West Virginia; FHL microfilm 460366.
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5 Aug 2014 15:32 |
1880: City/Township Philadelphia County Philadelphia State Pennsylvania
Theresa Mathews Widowed 50 1830 England James M Mathews Son Single 27 Ship Broker 1853 Pennsylvania Edward T Parker Other Single 65 1815 Pennsylvania
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5 Aug 2014 15:16 |
Baptism: 26 Jul 1791 St Peter, Liverpool, Lancashire, England George Jebb Matthews - Son of John Matthews & Ann Born: 26 Jun 1791 Abode: Duke Street Occupation: Merchant Register: Baptisms 1787 - 1792, Page 149, Entry 27 Source: LDS Film 1656377
Burial: 29 May 1834 St Katharine, Blackrod, Lancashire, England George Jeb Matthews - Age: 42 years Abode: Aspull Buried by: H. H. Sutcliffe Officiating Minister Register: Burials 1813 - 1853, Page 151, Entry 1201 Source: LDS Film 2148001
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5 Aug 2014 15:15 |
Do you have this?
1860 United States Federal Census about Harrold Mathews Name: Harrold Mathews Age in 1860: 32 Birth Year: abt 1828 Birthplace: England Home in 1860: Philadelphia Ward 15, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania Gender: Male Post Office: Philadelphia Value of real estate: View image Household Members: Name Age Harrold Mathews 32 Theresa Mathews 30 James Mathews 7 Rebecca Lawrance 50 Margeret Mckenne 14
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5 Aug 2014 15:15 |
Marriage: 6 Feb 1827 All Saints, Wigan, Lancashire, England George Jebb Mathews - Parish of Wigan Alice Entwisle - (X), Parish of Wigan Witness: Thomas Melling; Saml. Vizard Married by Banns by: Edwd. Hill Curate Register: Marriages 1824 - 1827, Page 284, Entry 850 Source: LDS Film 1885691
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