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Harold Shuyler Mathews

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george

george Report 11 Aug 2014 14:40

Hello again Helen.The Malcolm Roderic Mathews who passed away last year is most likely to be descended from Harold Schuyler Mathews who arrived in USA about 1850.The funeral parlour said he had three sons. One of them is a doctor and I have e-mailed his practice but had no reply.There was no address for the other two.I tried again to find Roderic b.1833 but he seems to have escaped the system.He may have been deported to Australia for theft!!! Perhaps somebody out there knows where he went.

Gritty

Gritty Report 6 Aug 2014 20:21

Dinner was fine- thankyou George. I do hope they make contact.

I just wish we knew what happened to Harold's brother, Roderic Malcolm Chalmers Mathews, after he joined the merchant navy. There could be many more descendants from his line.

All the best
Helen

ps. I did find a small newspaper article regarding Roderic's prison sentence:

Preston Chronicle 31 January 1846
Roderic Malcolm Chalmers Mathews, a boy twelve years old, pleaded guilty to stealing a quantity of books and other articles, the property of Mr Birch, bookseller. He was sentenced to one months imprisonment.

george

george Report 6 Aug 2014 18:18

Thanks for the assistance in locating the modern day relatives of George Jebb Mathews and his son Harold Schuyler.I have sent them a message to make contact with me if they wish.Sadly the oldest relative passed away this year aged 90.I Should have asked for help sooner. A special thanks to Helen who I hope didn't soil her dinner

Gritty

Gritty Report 6 Aug 2014 06:52

Roderick Malcolm Chalmers Mathews born c1833

Christened 29th Sept 1833 Blackrod
Sentenced to 1 months imprisonment for theft in Jan 1846 (age 12)
In 1847 he lied about his age and joined the merchant Navy- he gave his date of birth as 7th Aug 1830.

Gritty

Gritty Report 5 Aug 2014 19:29

Details for Harold Schyler Mathews (son of James and grandson of Harold)

Name: Harold Schyler Mathews
Birth Date: 01 Jun 1882
Birth Place: Philadelphia, Pa

Death Date: 02 Feb 1947
Death Place: Kanawha, West Virginia
Age at Death: 64y 8m 1d
Burial Place: Chasn
Burial Date: 04 Feb 1947
Cemetery: Mt View
Marital Status: M
Spouse: Irene Taylor Mathews
Occupation: President Of Mathews Printing
Mother: Elizabeth Thompson
Mother's Birth Place: Philadelphia, Pa
Father: James Mathews
Father's Birth Place: Philadelphia, Pa

Informant at death was a Mrs H S Mathews (H S= Harold Schuyler)

Harold and Irene had at least two children:
Harold Schuyler Mathews 8 Oct 1914, who married Mildred Virginia Clark, and died 1990 West Virginia.
Elizabeth Mathews b29 April 1912, who married James Beury and died 1944 West Virginia.

Gritty

Gritty Report 5 Aug 2014 18:56

Details for- James' son, Malcolm Roderick Mathews

Malcolm Roderick Mathews
B. 8th December 1885 Philadelphia
Married Elizabeth N Connell in 1907
Died. 27 Jun 1972 Kanawha, West Virginia

Malcolm and Elizabeth had children

George- see this link, it has lots of information about Malcolm's son (Great grandson of Harold) who died very recently leaving a family:

http://pearsonfuneralhome.frontrunnerpro.com/book-of-memories/1767742/Mathews-Malcolm/obituary.php

Gritty

Gritty Report 5 Aug 2014 18:24

With no other information found at present for Roderic Malcolm Chalmers Mathews, I'll concentrate on Harold's line.

This is details for James' son, Robert L Mathews (Harold's grandson)

Birth Date: 25 Dec 1883
Birthplace: Philadelphia, Pa.

Death Date: 24 Aug 1932
Death Place: Zanesville, Muskingum, Ohio
Residence Place: Charleston, W. Va.
Gender: Male
Age: 48
Marital Status: Married
Occupation: Printer
Burial Date: 26 Aug 1932
Burial Place: Charleston, W. Va.
Father's Name: James M. Mathews
Father's Birthplace: Philadelphia, Pa.
Mother's Name: Bessie B. Thompson
Mother's Birthplace: Philadelphia, Pa.

Spouse's Name: Edith W.

On the 1930 US census Robert is a printing officer and is living in Charleston with his wife who is listed as Edith C (not W as on his death record). They married c 1920 and have no children living with them.

Rambling

Rambling Report 5 Aug 2014 17:28

Baptism: 29 Sep 1833 St Katharine, Blackrod, Lancashire, England
Roderic Malcolm Chalmers Matthews - son of Geo. Job Matthews & Alice
Abode: Aspull
Occupation: Schoolmaster
Baptised by: J. Whitaker M.A. Curate
Register: Baptisms 1832 - 1860, Page 27, Entry 213
Source: LDS Film 2148001

I didn't find that one ! as I was using full name of father

Gritty

Gritty Report 5 Aug 2014 17:22

Possible for Roderick in 1841

Roderick Mathews
Age: 7
Estimated birth year: abt 1834
Gender: Male
Where born: Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: Wigan
Hundred: West Derby
County/Island: Lancashire
Registration district: Wigan
Sub-registration district: Hindley
Piece: 522
Book: 9
Folio: 31
Page Number: 17
Household Members:
Name Age
Mary Mathews 45 School Mistress
Roderick Mathews 7

Edit: I wonder if this is the Mary that gave the book to George? and she has the school connection

Gritty

Gritty Report 5 Aug 2014 17:07

Hold on Rose- another note from George, he forgot to mention:

"I have found the family history up to the time Harold emigrated.He also had a brother Roderic Malcolm Chalmers Mathews b.1833 At the age of 12 he was in Court for theft.I can find no record of him and wonder if he went with his brother to USA."

So there is another brother Roderic Malcolm - which ties in with the name of James' son.

Rambling

Rambling Report 5 Aug 2014 16:59

Unfortunately I can only see the two children to George Jebb , and Thomas Quill died at age 6, so it will need to be the descendants of Harold,

Gritty

Gritty Report 5 Aug 2014 16:48

Message from George:

"Hello Helen,2 years ago my 95 years old uncle passed away. He had given me a book of the works of Virgil.A name at the front was written.George Jebb Mathews of Blackrod given by him to Mary Ann Mathews of Blackrod.I couldn't find any family connection but my uncle was born near Blackrod.George's parents fr Liverpool are buried at Blackrod with one George' children.The book is dated 1811 and I found out George was a well educated teacher in the local schools but he died age 42 in 1834.The book will be of interest to his family if I find them."

So I think George is looking for Descendants of George Jebb Mathews so he can show them the book he has.

George- it's easier if you add your reply to the bottom of this page- that way everyone can see and you get more help.

Gritty

Gritty Report 5 Aug 2014 16:17

James M Mathews married a Bessie B Thompson- confirmed by the death record of their son Robert in 1932 (details re familysearch)

Gritty

Gritty Report 5 Aug 2014 15:59

Did you want details of James' children: Harold Schuyler Mathews, Malcolm Roderick Mathews and Robert L Mathews?

Gritty

Gritty Report 5 Aug 2014 15:55

It seems James Married a Bessie B ? in c1881

Their eldest child was Harold Schuyler Matthews.

Here is James (widowed), his mother (widowed), and his three childen in 1900 (badly transcibed):

Name: James N Mathews
Age: 47
Birth Date: Nov 1852
Birthplace: Pennsylvania
Home in 1900: Clifton Heights, Delaware, Pennsylvania
Relation to Head of House: Son
Marital Status: Widowed
Marriage Year: 1881
Years Married: 19
Father's Birthplace: New York
Mother's name: Theasia N Mathews
Mother's Birthplace: England

Theasia N Mathews 69
James N Mathews 47
HAroldd S Mathews 18
Robert S Mathews 15
Malcom R Mathews 15
Schorbt Lentz 22

safc

safc Report 5 Aug 2014 15:47

Name: Tresa Y. Mathews
Event Date: 06 Nov 1911
Event Place: Charleston, Kanawha, West Virginia
Gender: Female
Age (Expanded): 80 years
Birth Date: 1831
Birthplace:
Marital Status: Widowed
Spouse's Name:
Father's Name:
Father's Birthplace:
Mother's Name:
Mother's Birthplace:
Occupation:
Address:
Residence Place:
Cemetery:
Burial Place:
Burial Date:
GS Film number: 460366
Digital Folder Number: 4226827
Image Number: 312
Affiliate Repository Type: County Records
Reference ID: v 1 p 297



Citing this Record:
"West Virginia Deaths, 1804-1999," index, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/NM27-2JX : accessed 05 Aug 2014), Tresa Y. Mathews, 06 Nov 1911; citing v 1 p 297, Charleston, Kanawha, West Virginia; FHL microfilm 460366.

Gritty

Gritty Report 5 Aug 2014 15:32

1880:
City/Township Philadelphia
County Philadelphia
State Pennsylvania

Theresa Mathews Widowed 50 1830 England
James M Mathews Son Single 27 Ship Broker 1853 Pennsylvania
Edward T Parker Other Single 65 1815 Pennsylvania

Rambling

Rambling Report 5 Aug 2014 15:16

Baptism: 26 Jul 1791 St Peter, Liverpool, Lancashire, England
George Jebb Matthews - Son of John Matthews & Ann
Born: 26 Jun 1791
Abode: Duke Street
Occupation: Merchant
Register: Baptisms 1787 - 1792, Page 149, Entry 27
Source: LDS Film 1656377


Burial: 29 May 1834 St Katharine, Blackrod, Lancashire, England
George Jeb Matthews -
Age: 42 years
Abode: Aspull
Buried by: H. H. Sutcliffe Officiating Minister
Register: Burials 1813 - 1853, Page 151, Entry 1201
Source: LDS Film 2148001

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 5 Aug 2014 15:15

Do you have this?

1860 United States Federal Census
about Harrold Mathews Name: Harrold Mathews
Age in 1860: 32
Birth Year: abt 1828
Birthplace: England
Home in 1860: Philadelphia Ward 15, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
Gender: Male
Post Office: Philadelphia
Value of real estate: View image
Household Members: Name Age
Harrold Mathews 32
Theresa Mathews 30
James Mathews 7
Rebecca Lawrance 50
Margeret Mckenne 14



Rambling

Rambling Report 5 Aug 2014 15:15

Marriage: 6 Feb 1827 All Saints, Wigan, Lancashire, England
George Jebb Mathews - Parish of Wigan
Alice Entwisle - (X), Parish of Wigan
Witness: Thomas Melling; Saml. Vizard
Married by Banns by: Edwd. Hill Curate
Register: Marriages 1824 - 1827, Page 284, Entry 850
Source: LDS Film 1885691