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I'm trying to help a friend who has a quandary Hope you brilliant detectives can help as I can't get any where. Thanking you in anticipation . Joanna Marshall married John Walter Morley in July 1890 Hull but on his marriage cert it says John Walter Softly Can anyone let me know why he used this alias or were he came from
Regards George.

If anyone is interested, Would they please Google John Walter Morley as there is a large amount of info she has already found.. "Thank You very Much"
regards George

It's Softly on FreeBMD. Where did the name Morley come from?

Marriages Sep 1890 (>99%)
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MARSHALL Joanna Sculcoates 9d 288
PARKER Charles Sculcoates 9d 288
Softly John Walter Sculcoates 9d 288
TURNER Ada Sculcoates 9d 288

A previous thread about him. Is Jackie the friend that you're trying to help?

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/trying_to_find/thread/1185319

Who does he name as his father on the marriage cert?

hi for ref is this him in 1901
1901 census

Address High Street
Civil Parish Holy Trinity & St Mary
Rural District
Town or Village or Hamlet
Ecclesiastical Parish Holy Trinity
Parliamentary Borough or Division Central Kingston Upon Hull
County Borough, Municipal Borough or Urban District Kingston Upon Hull
Administrative County Kingston Upon Hull
Householder 1
Name Caroline Morley
Relation to Head of Family Daughter
Condition as to Marriage Single
Age Last Birthday 21
Sex Female
Profession or Occupation Draper Assistant
Employment Status
Where Born Hull Yorks
Language
Infirmity
Householder 2
Name Johanah Morley
Relation to Head of Family Wife
Condition as to Marriage Married
Age Last Birthday 55
Sex Female
Profession or Occupation
Employment Status
Where Born Portsmouth Hants
Language
Infirmity
Householder 3
Name John W Morley
Relation to Head of Family Head
Condition as to Marriage Married
Age Last Birthday 54
Sex Male
Profession or Occupation Publican
Employment Status
Where Born Hull Yorks
Language
Infirmity
Householder 4
Name Rhoda Morley
Relation to Head of Family Daughter
Condition as to Marriage Single
Age Last Birthday 19
Sex Female
Profession or Occupation Draper Assistant
Employment Status
Where Born Hull Yorks
Language
Infirmity

this is what she posted in 2009

I'm trying to find information on my great grandfather John Walter Morley (possibly also known as Wally or William) who died on 7th January, 1928 in Hull. Various census information gives his date of birth between 1844 and 1847 with place of birth either Portsmouth or Hull. He was married to Joanna Marshall (variants = Johanna, Jane and Johanah) who was born 20th September, 1845 in Southsea and died in Hull on 4th March, 1931. John was variously a shipyard/smith's/engine fitter's labourer and latterly a publican. I would love to find his birth and marriage certificates or details of his parents and siblings if anyone has any information on him. Thank you. Jackie


and I gave that census then

I googled the name and a lot of info comes up that we are just going to duplicate.

It seems that his name was Morley but for some reason the marriage certificate says Softly. A mystery!

1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census



Household Information

Street CROWLE STREET
Parish DRYPOOL
Town KINGSTON UPON HULL
City KINGSTON UPON HULL
County Yorkshire, Yorkshire (East Riding)
Country ENGLAND
Ecclesiastical District ST ANDREWS
Enumeration District 7
Municipal Ward ALEXANDRA
Parliamentary Borough EAST HULL
Registration District SCULCOATES
Category Census, Land & Surveys
Record set 1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Collections from Great Britain

Person 1

First Name RHODA
Last Name MORLEY
Birth Year 1882
Age 9
Birth County YORKSHIRE
Birth Town
Birth Place
Relationship To Head of Household DAUGHTER
Gender Female
Occupation SCHOLAR
Condition
Archive Reference RG12
Folio 135
Page 4
Piece Number 3922

Person 2

First Name JOHN
Last Name MORLEY
Birth Year 1847
Age 44
Birth County HAMPSHIRE
Birth Town
Birth Place
Relationship To Head of Household HEAD
Gender Male
Occupation GENERAL LABORER
Condition MARRIED
Archive Reference RG12
Folio 135
Page 4
Piece Number 3922

Person 3

First Name JOHANNA
Last Name MORLEY
Birth Year 1846
Age 45
Birth County HAMPSHIRE
Birth Town
Birth Place
Relationship To Head of Household WIFE
Gender Female
Occupation
Condition MARRIED
Archive Reference RG12
Folio 135
Page 4
Piece Number 3922

Person 4

First Name CAROLINE
Last Name MORLEY
Birth Year 1880
Age 11
Birth County YORKSHIRE
Birth Town
Birth Place
Relationship To Head of Household DAUGHTER
Gender Female
Occupation SCHOLAR
Condition
Archive Reference RG12
Folio 135
Page 4
Piece Number 3922

Person 5

First Name JOSEPH
Last Name MARSHALL
Birth Year 1817
Age 74
Birth County HAMPSHIRE
Birth Town
Birth Place
Relationship To Head of Household FATHER IN LAW
Gender Male
Occupation RETIRED LABOURER
Condition MARRIED
Archive Reference RG12
Folio 135
Page 4
Piece Number 3922

Person 6

First Name WALTER
Last Name MARRAM
Birth Year 1871
Age 20
Birth County YORKSHIRE
Birth Town
Birth Place
Relationship To Head of Household LODGER
Gender Male
Occupation GENERAL LABORER
Condition SINGLE
Archive Reference RG12
Folio 135
Page 4
Piece Number 3922

Person 7

First Name GEORGE
Last Name MARRAM
Birth Year 1871
Age 20
Birth County YORKSHIRE
Birth Town
Birth Place
Relationship To Head of Household LODGER
Gender Male
Occupation MARINE FIREMAN
Condition SINGLE
Archive Reference RG12
Folio 135
Page 4
Piece Number 3922

Did he sign his marriage certificate??

1911 at 4 Ethel Grove Brighton St South Newington Hull, Sculcoates
John Morley Husband Married Male 67 1844 Fitter's Labourer Portsmouth Hants
Joanna Morley Wife Married Female 68 1843 - Portsmouth 40 yrs 3/2/1

1901 at High Street, Holy Trinity and St Mary, Hull
John W Morley Head Married Male 54 1847 Publican Hull, Yorkshire
Johanah Morley Wife Married Female 55 1846 - Portsmouth, Hampshire
Caroline Morley Daughter Single Female 21 1880 Draper Assistant Hull, Yorkshire
Rhoda Morley Daughter Single Female 19 1882 Draper Assistant Hull, Yorkshire

1891 at Crowle Street, Drypool, Sculcoates
John Morley Head Married Male 44 1847 General Laborer Portsmouth, Hampshire
Johanna Morley Wife Married Female 45 1846 - Portsmouth, Hampshire
Caroline Morley Daughter - Female 11 1880 Scholar Hull, Yorkshire
Rhoda Morley Daughter - Female 9 1882 Scholar Hull, Yorkshire
Joseph Marshall Father In Law Marr Male 74 1817 Retired Lab Portsmouth, Hants
Walter Marram Lodger Single Male 20 1871 General Laborer Hull, Yorkshire
George Marram Lodger Single Male 20 1871 Marine Fireman Hull, Yorkshire

1881 at 18, Lee Smith Street, Southcoates
John Morley Head Married Male 36 1845 Smiths Labourer Portsmouth, Hampshire
Jane Morley Wife Married Female 35 1846 - Portsmouth, Hampshire
Caroline Morley Daughter Single Female 1 1880 - Hull, Yorkshire

Yorkshire Marriage indexes for the years: 1890

SOFTLY John R MARSHALL Joanna Sculcoates Register Offices or Registrar Attended Hull SRO/39/118

Having trouble with my mouse so can't C & P but there is a birth of a John Walter Morley in Sculcoates in 1886, ( died 1887)
so perhaps there was an earlier marriage? If so and there was no divorce maybe he used the surname 'Softly' when he married Joanna?