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Thank you ever so much for all your information! It's really helped me.
Cheers, Mariya :-)

St. Pancras workhouse admission:

10th December 1868

Lake - Charlotte aged 40 In labour

Alice - 9
William - 7

The records for the workhouse are on Ancestry.co.uk

Thank you so much for all your replies, and sorry I have not replied sooner.
yes, I think those records are correct. There was a Caroline hencher in my family whose mother and grandmother was called Charlotte. Her mother married twice, first to Stephen lake then to Thomas hencher.
Sorry I can't write more, I'm in a bit of a rush
Maria

You could try putting a request on this board asking if anyone is going to the LMA in the near future who wouldn't mind searching the records for you.

I did this many years ago and a lovely gentleman who was going anyway searched and found me admission and discharge records for my great-grandmother and the birth of my grandfather. He sent me photocopies of all the records he found.

They do hold some records that are from around the time you are looking for.

If you used the services of a researcher from the LMA unfortunately they charge £50 an hour.

Kath. x

This looks like Charlotte's marriage to first husband:-

Year Of Marriage 1849
First name(s) STEPHEN JOHN
Last name LAKE
Marriage quarter 2
Marriage year 1849
Registration month -
MarriageFinder™ STEPHEN JOHN LAKE married one of these people
SARAH CORUM, FANNY GREEN CHAMPION, ***CHARLOTTE MARIA OSBORN***
Spouse's last name -
District WEST LONDON
County London
Country England
Volume 2
Page 289

Kath. x

First husband's death (before Caroline was born):-

First name(s) STEPHEN JOHN
Last name LAKE
Gender Male
Birth day -
Birth month -
Birth year -
Age -
Death quarter 1
Death year 1865
District HOLBORN
County London
Volume 1B
Page 449

So Caroline must either have been fathered by someone else or by Thomas Hencher before he married Charlotte.

Kath. x

This looks like Charlotte in the 1861 census with first husband:-

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital condition Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place

Stephen John Lake Head Married Male 33 1828 Printer Lithographer Marylebone, Middlesex
Charlotte M Lake Wife Married Female 32 1829 - Kensington, Middlesex
Charlotte M Lake Daughter - Female 11 1850 Scholar St Clement, Middlesex
Sarah E Lake Able Seaman - Female 9 1852 Scholar St Giles, Middlesex
Stephen W Lake Son - Male 7 1854 Scholar St Luke, Middlesex
Isabella Lake Daughter - Female 5 1856 Scholar Camberwell, Surrey
Alice V Lake Daughter - Female 1 1860 - St Giles, Middlesex

Kath. x

This looks like the GRO reference for the birth certificate:-

First name(s) CAROLINE
Last name LAKE
Birth year 1868
Birth quarter 4
Registration month -
Mother's last name -
District PANCRAS
County London
Country England
Volume 1B
Page 136

Kath. x

That sounds more like the correct marriage Andrew. I will delete the marriage and birth that I found but leave the census.

I would expect that the mother was not married when Caroline was born.

Kath. x

Later marriage

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page

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Marriages Sep 1874 (>99%)
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Hencher Thomas Frederick St. Giles 1b 861
LAKE Charlotte Maria St. Giles 1b


Andy

If this is correct person, then the entry shows abode as 'Workhouse'.

Born Dec 2nd.


London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906
about Caroline Lake

Name:Caroline Lake
Record Type:Baptism
Baptism Date:16 Dec 1868
Mother's name:Charlotte Lake
Parish or Poor Law Union:St Pancras Old St Pancras
Borough:Camden
Register Type:Parish Registers


1871 census?


1871 England Census
about Charlotte Hencher
Name:Charlotte Hencher
Age:40
Estimated birth year:abt 1831
Relation:Wife
Spouse's Name:Thomas Hencher
Gender:Female
Where born:Chelsea, Middlesex, England
Civil Parish:St Pancras
Ecclesiastical parish:St James
County/Island:London
Country:England
Registration district:Pancras
Sub-registration district:Somers Town
ED, institution, or vessel:11
Household schedule number:118
Piece:224
Folio:47
Page Number:17
Household Members:
Name
Age
Thomas Hencher 36
Charlotte Hencher 40
Stephen Hencher 17
Alice Hencher 11
William Hencher 9
Caroline Hencher 2





Andy

Is the person you are looking for Caroline Hencher?

There is this family in the 1871 census:-

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital condition Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place

Thomas Hencher Head - Male 36 1835 - London
Charlotte Hencher Wife - Female 40 1831 - Middlesex
Stephen Hencher Son - Male 17 1854 - London
Alice Hencher Daughter - Female 11 1860 - London
William Hencher Son - Male 9 1862 - London
Caroline Hencher Daughter - Female 2 1869 - London<<<<<<<<<<<<

EDIT - I have deleted the marriage and birth I found as I think the one Andrew has posted below is more likely to be correct.

Kath. x

Oh, thanks, Andy ! sorry i didn't reply sooner,
yes i have had a look at that page, and it is very informative, but only gives me the records from 1881.;
Thanks anyway! Mariya

The surname I'm looking for in question is Hencher. I think that her mother was married to one man, had her by anouther man, then, either they became divorced or he died, i don't know, 6 years after Hencher was born, the second man and her mother married. I think that the mother was cast out due to her illegitimate child into the workhouse, then when she got married she came out of the workhouse. I'm not sure, though, seeing as Hencher (the little girl) was 2 in the 1771 census living at home with the second man (her father) and her mother.
Does that make sense?
Also, im not sure the mother had Hencher (the little girl) or became pregnant with her while she was still married to her first husband. Do you know, anyone, where i would find decent reliable marriage records to see if that is true?
cheers, mariya

This link

http://www.workhouses.org.uk/StPancras/

will give lots of info on the workhouse in general. If you page down to the bottom, there is a list of surviving records and where they are housed.

Andy

Oh ok. Can you access the LMA files online? I don't have much experience with microfiche!
Cheers, Mariya

Don't think they are online

The records are kept at the London Metropolitan Archives usually on microfiche

I found some of my family workhouse records there for the Greenwich workhouse and had to plough through microfiche

Hello!
I'm trying to find some good websites and registers that will tell me the St Pancras Workhouse inmates list for round about 1868. Have any of you had any luck with this sort of thing? I can't find a website anywhere that is free and doesn't require subscription that has records stretching farther that 1881 :-(

Thanks, Claire