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Thomas Scholes 1876 Bolton, Lancs

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Mark

Mark Report 27 Jul 2014 12:09

According to the 1911 census Thomas Scholes has been married to Emily Brierley for 13 yrs. The marriage took place at St Jame's Church, Bolton. Lancashire. England on 03/07/1897. On viewing the original it says 1 child born to this marriage. It is this child I am trying to find, many thanks.

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 27 Jul 2014 12:13

have you them on the 1901 census?

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 27 Jul 2014 12:16

so no child as at 1901

1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
83, George Arthur Street, Bolton, Lancashire, England

Thomas Scholes Head Married Male 24 1877 Iron Turner Bolton, Lancashire
Emily Scholes Wife Married Female 26 1875 Cotton Card Room Hand Salford, Lancashire

Mark

Mark Report 27 Jul 2014 12:17

Yes they are both together at what appears to be Arthur St, Bolton

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 27 Jul 2014 12:19

so according to the 1911 the child is no longer living

have you tried FreeBMD for a birth and death of a child from 1897 when they married

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 27 Jul 2014 12:23

well from 1897 for Bolton reg district there are quite a few childrens deaths fro Scholes

It would cost some checking them all out .

Mark

Mark Report 27 Jul 2014 12:24

I have found a Joseph b and d in 1897 in Bolton but unsure if this is the correct one..

Choccy

Choccy Report 27 Jul 2014 12:29

??


Births Sep 1903

Scholes Leonard Bolton 8c 470 Scan available - click to view


Deaths Sep 1903

SCHOLES Leonard 0 Bolton 8c 279



Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 27 Jul 2014 12:38

Lancashire BMD sit doesn't pick up any reg birth for them, but it looks like all the area hasnt been covered as yet

Potty

Potty Report 27 Jul 2014 12:49

That's a shame, Shirley, because a lot of the entries on there for the Bolton area give the mother's maiden name. A tree on Ancestry has Emily MN as Counsel.

I can't find the Joseph Mark mentions in 1897; the only one on freebmd was born in Bury but there is no death.

It might be a long wait, but Lancashire BMD will probably transcribe those areas sometime.

Edit: there is a death for Joseph in Bury in 1898. That 1897 birth is on LancsBMD, MMN Stubbs.

Potty

Potty Report 27 Jul 2014 12:57

Just noticed that Mark gives Emily as Brierley and that is the only marriage I can find, so the tree on Ancestry has wrong MMN.

Potty

Potty Report 27 Jul 2014 13:03

Thomas & Emily's marriage is on Ancestry:


Name:Thomas Scholes,Iron Turner, 112 Waterloo St
Birth Year:abt 1877
Age:20
Marriage Date:3 Jul 1897
Parish:Bolton, St James the Apostle
Parish as it Appears:Bolton, St James the Apostle
Father's Name:James Scholes, painter
Spouse's Name:Emily Brierley, 97 George Arthur St
Spouse's Father's Name:Thomas Brierley, buttonmaker

Witnesses: William Lee & Elizabeth Brierley.

Mike *

Mike * Report 27 Jul 2014 17:15


Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1907
SCOLES Leonard - Oldham Central Oldham - BRIERLEY



Lancashire Death indexes for the years: 1907
SCHOLES Leonard - 0 - Oldham Central Oldham

mgnv

mgnv Report 28 Jul 2014 03:27

Using http://www.lancashirebmd.org.uk/
Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1907
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference
SCOLES Leonard Oldham Central Oldham BRIERLEY OCEN/7/383
The GRO index spells it as Scholes - I checked the image]

Lancashire Death indexes for the years: 1907
Surname Forename(s) Age Sub-District Registers At Reference
SCHOLES Leonard 0 Oldham Central Oldham OCEN/7/19

Births Dec 1907 (>99%)
Scholes Leonard Oldham 8d 614

Deaths Dec 1907 (>99%)
SCHOLES Leonard 0 Oldham 8d 443


http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1343010


https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/234N-B8S [with link to m.cert image]


England, Lancashire, Oldham Cemetery Registers, 1797-2004
https://familysearch.org/search/collection/1482833
The regos aren't indexed so you'll have to browse thru the images.
Some rego entries run over 2 pages.
The burial would be from24/9/1907 thru 7/1/1908.



If this is your Thos in 1881
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XQXL-B4J

then this looks like his folk
Lancashire Birth indexes for the years:
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference
1870 SCHOLES William Sharples Bolton STRICKLAND SH/11/280
1872 SCHOLES Squire Halliwell Bolton STRICKLAND HALL/17/337
1874 SCHOLES Thomas Little Bolton Bolton STRICKLAND LB/74/193
1875 SCHOLES (boy) Little Bolton Bolton STRICKLAND LB/78/82
1876 SCHOLES Thomas Little Bolton Bolton STRICKLAND LB/81/488

Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1869
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
SCHOLES James STRICKLAND Nancy Bolton, St George Bolton 61/3/267

Using http://www.lan-opc.org.uk/
Marriage: 4 Apr 1869 St George, Bolton, Lancs.
James Scholes - Full, Plasterer, Bachelor, Sharples
Mary Strickland - Minor, Spinster, Bolton
Groom's Father: Squire Scholes, Plasterer
Bride's Father: Thomas Strickland, Engine driver
Witness: Thomas Nuttall; Jane Strickland, (X)
Married by Banns by: F. Brindley, Curate
Register: Marriages 1867 - 1871, Page 134, Entry 267
Source: LDS Film 1966158



If this is your Emily
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XQXL-4N8
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/KZG1-Y1H

then this looks like her folks:

Lancashire Birth indexes for the years:
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference
1869 BRIERLEY James H Little Bolton Bolton DICKINSON LB/60/287
1871 BRIERLEY Alice Little Bolton Bolton DICKINSON LB/64/116
1873 BRIERLEY Rose Hannah Hulme Manchester HUL/174/13
1875 BRIERLEY Emily Salford Greengate Salford GRE/116/48
1877 BRIERLEY Arthur Little Bolton Bolton DICKINSON LB/83/308

Lancashire Death indexes for the years: 1877
Surname Forename(s) Age Sub-District Registers At Reference
BRIERLEY Arthur 0 Little Bolton Bolton LB/53/457



Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1869
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
BRIERLEY Thomas DICKINSON Ellen Bolton, St George Bolton 61/3/255

Marriage: 6 Mar 1869 St George, Bolton, Lancs.
Thomas Brierley - Full, Pattern Maker, Bachelor, Bolton
Ellen Dickinson - Minor, Spinster, Bolton
Groom's Father: James Brierley, Calico Painter
Bride's Father: Henry Dickinson, Millwright
Witness: James Dickinson; Joseph E. Steward; Mary Ellen Thornley, (X)
Married by Banns by: Fredk. Brindley M.A. Curate
Register: Marriages 1867 - 1871, Page 128, Entry 255
Source: LDS Film 1966158