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Fanny Adams & Florence Adams

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Chris

Chris Report 27 Jul 2014 10:54

Seeking info on their descendants - Fanny Eliza Adams (b. 1869 in East London) married a George Beckett and their descendants are thought to be the Montgomery Family.

Her sister, Florence (b.1873 in East London), married a Wiliam J.English and their descendants are thought to be the Mobey family.

Their youngest sister was my Grandmother.

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ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 27 Jul 2014 10:59

Their marriages, for our reference:

Marriages Sep 1891 (>99%)
Adams Fanny Eliza Islington 1b 454
Beckett George Islington 1b 454


Marriages Mar 1896 (>99%)
ADAMS Florence Hackney 1b 502
English William Joseph Hackney 1b 502

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 27 Jul 2014 11:03


1901 England Census about Fanny E Beckett
Name: Fanny E Beckett
Age: 32
Estimated birth year: abt 1869
Relation to Head: Wife
Gender: Female
Spouse: George Beckett
Birth Place: Stoke Newington, London, England
Civil Parish: Hornsey
Ecclesiastical parish: Highgate St Augustine
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: Edmonton
Sub-registration district: Hornsey
ED, institution, or vessel: 43
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 1244
Folio: 16
Page Number: 23
Household schedule number: 127
Household Members:
Name Age
George Beckett 34
Fanny E Beckett 32
Muriel E Beckett 6
Unnamed Beckett Under 1 Month
Lizzie Burrell 29 - visitor
Florence Easterford 16 - servant



1911 England Census about Fanny Eliza Beckett
Name: Fanny Eliza Beckett
Age in 1911: 42
Estimated birth year: abt 1869
Relation to Head: Wife
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Stoke Newington, London, England
Civil Parish: Hornsey
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England
Street address: 25 Leaside Avenue, Muswell Hill N
Marital Status: Married
Years Married: 19
Estimated Marriage Year: 1892
Registration district: Edmonton
Registration District Number: 132
Sub-registration district: Hornsey
ED, institution, or vessel: 49
Household schedule number: 137
Piece: 7241
Household Members:
Name Age
George Beckett 44
Fanny Eliza Beckett 42
Muriel Edith Beckett 16
Joyce Anne Beckett 10

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 27 Jul 2014 11:29

Florence in 1911?

1911 England Census
about Florence English Name: Florence English
Age in 1911: 38
Estimated birth year: abt 1873
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Stoke Newington, London, England
Civil Parish: Margate St John the Baptist
County/Island: Kent
Country: England
Marital Status: Widowed
Occupation: Draper
Registration district: Thanet
Registration District Number: 63
Sub-registration district: Margate
ED, institution, or vessel: 11
Household schedule number: 381
Piece: 4493
Household Members: Name Age
Florence English 38
William Kenneth English 11
Marjorie English 9
Cyril Herbert English 7
Wilfred Phillip English 6
Mary Magdalen Rye 15



Chris

Chris Report 27 Jul 2014 13:21

Many thanks. Gives me a start. Appreciated.

Potty

Potty Report 27 Jul 2014 13:21

Have you tried looking for their names in the trees on here?

Chris

Chris Report 27 Jul 2014 13:42

Yes I have thanks. Reasons for checking these ladies out was because their youngest sister, Ethel, (my Grandmother whom I never met) has a decidedly sparse history -apart from a couple of passenger list entries, and her death details. As the family was really disparate, I am hoping to track down descendants of Fanny and Florence to see if any further family stories exist.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 27 Jul 2014 14:46

Marriages Sep 1927 (>99%)
BECKETT Joyce A Mallinson Edmonton 3a 1506
Mallinson Archibald H Beckett Edmonton 3a 1506



England & Wales, Death Index, 1916-2007 about Joyce Ann Mallinson
Name: Joyce Ann Mallinson
Birth Date: 24 Mar 1901
Date of Registration: Jun 1993
Age at Death: 92
Registration district: Worthing
Inferred County: West Sussex
Register Number: 4A84B
District and Subdistrict: 7864A
Entry Number: 198



England & Wales, Death Index, 1916-2007 about Archibald H Mallinson
Name: Archibald H Mallinson
Birth Date: abt 1899
Date of Registration: Dec 1968
Age at Death: 69
Registration district: Worthing
Inferred County: Sussex
Volume: 5h
Page: 853

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 27 Jul 2014 15:02

????

Marriages Jun 1922
EDWARDS Margaret L English Braintree 4a 1850
English Cyril H Edwards Braintree 4a 1850

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 27 Jul 2014 15:06

England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915 Birth, Baptism & Christening View Image
Name: Wilfred Philip English
Birth: Jan 1905 - Romford, Essex



Marriages Dec 1938 (>99%)
English Wilfred P Perkins Pembroke 11a 2587
Perkins Doris E L English Pembroke 11a 2587

There's the birth of an English / Perkins daughter in Pembroke in 1940, per FreeBMD.
She married in 1962, but NOT to a Montgomery.

England & Wales, Death Index, 1916-2007 about Wilfred Philip English
Name: Wilfred Philip English
Birth Date: 2 Feb 1905
Date of Registration: Feb 1998
Age at Death: 93
Registration district: South Pembrokeshire
Inferred County: Pembrokeshire
Register Number: 17C
District and Subdistrict: 8211
Entry Number: 145

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 27 Jul 2014 15:11


UK, Incoming Passenger Lists, 1878-1960 about Wilfred Philip English
Name: Wilfred Philip English
Birth Date: abt 1905
Age: 31
Port of Departure: Buenos Aires, Argentina
Arrival Date: 2 Mar 1936
Port of Arrival: Southampton, England
Ports of Voyage: Buenos Aires
[Montevideo]
[Santos]
[Rio de Janeiro]
Ship Name: Asturias
Search Ship Database: View the 'Asturias' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database

Travelling with Cyril Herbert English, 32.
Both of 2 Shorncliffe Crescent, Folkestone
Cyril's a bank clerk; Wilfred's a farmer



UK, Incoming Passenger Lists, 1878-1960 about Wilfred Philip English
Name: Wilfred Philip English
Birth Date: abt 1905
Age: 30
Port of Departure: New York, New York, United States
Arrival Date: 19 Mar 1935
Port of Arrival: Plymouth, England
Ship Name: Van Rensselaer
Search Ship Database: View the 'Van Rensselaer' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Shipping line: Royal Netherlands Steamship Company Ltd

He's a farmer; address 119A High Street, Margate, Kent.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 27 Jul 2014 15:31

There's a "Montgomery Family Tree" on Ancestry, which has a William Herbert English on it, born 1900, to Florence Adams and William Joseph English.

This is actually William Kenneth, mistranscribed on the 1901 census, and copied from there to the tree.

No spouse or children listed for him on the tree.
I haven't searched the tree to see where the Montgomery's come into it



1901 England Census about William Hermett English
Name: William Hermett English
Age: 1
Estimated birth year: abt 1900
Relation to Head: Son
Gender: Male
Father: William J English
Mother: Florence English
Birth Place: Finsbury, London, England
Civil Parish: Islington
Ecclesiastical parish: St Thomas
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: Islington
Sub-registration district: Highbury
ED, institution, or vessel: 17
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 198
Folio: 149
Page Number: 11
Household schedule number: 67
Household Members:
Name Age
William J English 31
Florence English 28
Grace F English 4
Ethel M English 2
William Hermett English 1
Herbert E Adams 22 - brother-in-law

Chris

Chris Report 27 Jul 2014 17:27

Much appreciated and really helpful. Many thanks indeed.