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Teresa
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8 Jul 2014 20:40 |
I am doing some research into various ancestors who fought and died in WW1 and have a Thomas Henry Marsh born 1878 at Retford Notts, I have found a marriage in Retford Dec qtr 1905 to Margaret Shadbolt, I don't have any information about her so it will be interesting to find out her details. He was killed in 1918 aged 40 yrs. Thank-you for helping. Teresa
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Andrew
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8 Jul 2014 20:44 |
1911 England Census about Thomas Henry Marsh
Name:Thomas Henry Marsh Age in 1911:31 Estimated birth year:abt 1880 Relation to Head:Head Gender:Male Birth Place:Retford, Nottinghamshire, England Civil Parish:West Retford County/Island:Nottinghamshire Country:England Street address:Bleach Houses Retford Notts Marital Status:Married Occupation:Bricklayer Registration district:East Retford Registration District Number:426 Sub-registration district:East Retford ED, institution, or vessel:6 Piece:20200 Household Members: Name Age
Thomas Henry Marsh 31 Born retford Margaret Marsh 26 Born Five Elms Essex Annie Marsh 2 Thomas Edmond Marsh 4 Mary Marsh Under 9/12 Eliza Shadbolt 24 Andy
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Teresa
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8 Jul 2014 20:47 |
Thanks very much Teresa :-)
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Andrew
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8 Jul 2014 20:48 |
Maybe
Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Births Mar 1885 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Shadbolt Margaret Romford 4a 318
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Andrew
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8 Jul 2014 20:50 |
1891 England Census about Margrett Shadbolt
Name:Margrett Shadbolt Age:6 Estimated birth year:abt 1885 Relation:Daughter Father's Name:Edmund Shadbolt Mother's name:Annie Shadbolt Gender:Female Where born:Essex, England Civil Parish:Kirkby in Ashfield Ecclesiastical parish:Kirkby Town:Kirkby Folly County/Island:Nottinghamshire Country:England Street address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: Education: Employment status: View image Registration district:Basford Sub-registration district:Greasley ED, institution, or vessel:14a Neighbors: View others on page Piece:2661 Folio:54 Page Number:47 Household Members: Name Age Edmund Shadbolt 35 Labourer Railway, born Hertford Annie Shadbolt 33 born Shropshire Annie Shadbolt 12 born Lancashire Margrett Shadbolt 6 born Essex Lizza Shadbolt 4 Born Essex Robert Darcy 40 Lodgers William Jarvis 20 John Brown 34 James Larrance 22
Would seem the family moved about a lot, probably following work on the railway. Andy
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Teresa
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8 Jul 2014 20:53 |
Thank-you very much, this is very helpful. :-)
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Mel Fairy Godmother
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8 Jul 2014 20:56 |
I have put up the 1891 census again as I find the other one Andrew put up hard to read.
1891 England Census about Margrett Shadbolt Name: Margrett Shadbolt Age: 6 Estimated birth year: abt 1885 Relation: Daughter Father's Name: Edmund Shadbolt Mother's name: Annie Shadbolt Gender: Female Where born: Essex, England Civil Parish: Kirkby in Ashfield Ecclesiastical parish: Kirkby Town: Kirkby Folly County/Island: Nottinghamshire Country: England Street address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Education:
Employment status: View image Registration district: Basford Sub-registration district: Greasley ED, institution, or vessel: 14a Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 2661 Folio: 54 Page Number: 47 Household Members: Name Age Edmund Shadbolt 35 Labourer Railways born Hertford Annie Shadbolt 33 born Shropshire Annie Shadbolt 12 born Lancashire Margrett Shadbolt 6 born Essex Lizza Shadbolt 4 born Essex. Robert Darcy 40 William Jarvis 20 John Brown 34 James Larrance 22
The rest of the names are lodgers.
1901 England Census about Margaret Shadbold Name: Margaret Shadbold Age: 17 Estimated birth year: abt 1884 Relation to Head: Servant Gender: Female Birth Place: Five Elms, Essex, England Civil Parish: Mansfield Ecclesiastical parish: St John County/Island: Nottinghamshire Country: England Street address:
Occupation: Registration district: Mansfield Sub-registration district: Mansfield ED, institution, or vessel: 9 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 3141 Folio: 64 Page Number: 67 Household schedule number: 393 Household Members: Name Age Wm H Reddan 37 Annie F Reddan 37 Gustave N F Reddan 12 Marjorie D Reddan 4 Mary Cutts 22 Margaret Shadbold 17*************************Servant Domestic
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Andrew
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8 Jul 2014 20:56 |
Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Marriages Jun 1878 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- LYSTER Annie W. Derby 8b 736 SHADBOLT Edmund W. Derby 8b 736
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Mel Fairy Godmother
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8 Jul 2014 21:03 |
O well done Andy you have sorted it.
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MarieCeleste
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8 Jul 2014 21:04 |
Wonder why his wife wasn't mentioned on CWGC?
MARSH, THOMAS HENRY
Rank:Private Service No:94294 Date of Death:09/04/1918 Age:40 Regiment/Service:Sherwood Foresters (Notts and Derby Regiment) 12th Bn. Grave Reference: X. B. 7A. Cemetery:WIMEREUX COMMUNAL CEMETERY Additional Information: Son of James and Mary Marsh, of Moorgate, Retford, Notts.
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Mel Fairy Godmother
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8 Jul 2014 21:08 |
1861 England Census about Edmund Shadbolt Name: Edmund Shadbolt Age: 5 Estimated birth year: 1856 Relation: Stepson Mother's name: Ann Munford Gender: Male Where born: Datchworth, Hertfordshire, England Civil Parish: Datchworth County/Island: Hertfordshire Country: England Street address:
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Condition as to marriage: View image Registration district: Hertford Sub-registration district: Watton ED, institution, or vessel: 3 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 28 Piece: 822 Folio: 41 Page Number: 6 Household Members: Name Age David Munford 27 Ann Munford 34 John Shadbolt 15 William Shadbolt 12 Emma Shadbolt 10 Sarah Ann Shadbolt 7 Edmund Shadbolt 5*************** Ellen Shadbolt 3 Harriet Shadbolt 5/12 George Gray 67
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MarieCeleste
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8 Jul 2014 21:12 |
On the 1911 census, his parents James Henry and Mary Jane have listed all their children, including Thomas Henry (who they list as married), even though they weren't living there. These have been crossed off by the enumerator.
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Mel Fairy Godmother
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8 Jul 2014 21:28 |
England & Wales Marriages, 1538-1940 about Ann Shadbolt Name: Ann Shadbolt*************** [Ann Gray] Gender: Female Birth Date: abt 1829 Age: 31 Father's Name: George Gray************** Spouse's Name: David Mumford Spouse's Age: 27 Spouse's Father's Name: John Mumford Marriage Date: 25 Dec 1860 Marriage Place: Datchworth, Hertfordshire, England
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Mel Fairy Godmother
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8 Jul 2014 21:32 |
First Marriage.
England, Select Marriages, 1538–1973 about Ann Gray Name: Ann Gray Gender: Female Age: 20 Birth Date: 1828 Marriage Date: 1848 Marriage Place: Datchworth, Hertford, England Father: George Gray Spouse: Edmund Shadbolt Spouse Father: Solomon Shadbolt FHL Film Number: 1040808 Reference ID: 2:3FKR704
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Chris Ho :)
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8 Jul 2014 21:58 |
County Nottinghamshire Place West Retford Church St Michael RegisterNumber 292 MarriageDate 27 Sep 1913 GroomForename William Herbert GroomSurname MARSHALL GroomAge 21 GroomParish GroomCondition Bachelor GroomOccupation Gardener GroomAbode Barnby Moor BrideForename Frances BrideSurname SHADBOLT BrideAge 18 BrideParish BrideCondition Spinster BrideOccupation BrideAbode Bleach Houses West Retford GroomFatherForename William (deceased) GroomFatherSurname MARSHALL GroomFatherOccupation Gardener BrideFatherForename Edmund BrideFatherSurname SHADBOLT BrideFatherOccupation Labourer WitnessOneForename Thomas Henry WitnessOneSurname MARSH WitnessTwoForename Eliza WitnessTwoSurname VALLENCE
(wonder if relating?)
http://www.freereg.org.uk/cgi/Search.pl
Chris :)
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Marriages Sep 1913 (>99%) ------------------------------------------------------------ Shadbolt Eliza Vallance E.Retford 7b 46 Vallance Ernest Shadbolt E. Retford 7b 46
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Teresa
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9 Jul 2014 05:58 |
Thank you to all who has posted information about Thomas Henry and family. I did wonder myself why Thomas's wife was not mentioned on the CWGC info. I have been passed a snippet from a local paper saying " Sapper T H Marsh, Royal Engineers" about his death, but wasn't sure as it said Private on CWGC!! The rest all matches and now with this extra it all fits together. He is on our local War memorial with 2 other members of our family. Very grateful Teresa
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Potty
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9 Jul 2014 12:53 |
His medal card just mentions the Notts & Derby Regiment and the No 94294 but this record also mentions the Royal Engineers:
UK, Soldiers Died in the Great War, 1914-1919
T. H. Marsh Birth Place:Clarborough, Notts Residence:Retford, Notts Death Date:9 Apr 1918 Death Place:France and Flanders Enlistment Place:Chatham, Kent Rank:Private Regiment:Notts and Derby (Sherwood Foresters) Regiment Battalion:11th Battalion Regimental Number:94294 Type of Casualty:Died of wounds Theatre of War:Western European Theatre Comments:Formerly 53292, Royal Engineers
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9 Jul 2014 18:15 |
The Army has a host of different names for a Private, depending on what regiment or corps the person belongs to eg. Gunner in the Royal Artillery, Sapper in the Royal Engineers, Trooper in the Household Cavalry. I think it's designed to make life difficult for everyone who isn't in the Army! They are all soldiers of the lowest military rank.
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Teresa
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9 Jul 2014 20:08 |
Thank-you potty and Greyghost for these extra snippets. I am trying to see if I can find any direct ancestors of Thomas Henry now. Teresa
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