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Picking Jane up on the 1841
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1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Green Lane End, Kirkby Lonsdale, Kendal, Westmorland, England

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First name(s) Last name Gender Age Birth year Birth place
James Armistead Male 50 1791 - occ farmer
Ann Armistead Female 45 1796 Westmorland
James Armistead Male 25 1816 -
Agnes Armistead Female 14 1827 Westmorland
Jane Armistead Female 12 1829 Westmorland
William Armistead Male 10 1831 Westmorland
George Armistead Male 5 1836 Westmorland
George Alston Male 15 1826 Westmorland

How have you got to Jane Armistead being the mother of Elizabeth? This looks a likely marriage for Jane

Name: James Tennant
Birth Date: 1830
Age: 20
Spouse's Name: Jane Armistead
Event Date: 1850
Event Place: Kirkby-Lonsdale, Westmoreland, England
Father's Name: Thomas Tennant
Spouse's Father's Name: James Armistead
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Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M05544-2 , System Origin: England-VR , GS Film number: 1471664 , Reference ID: 2:3GD9W3S

James Tennant and Jane Armistead are my 3x great grandparents

How have you got Jane Armistead/Tennant being the mother of Elizabeth Atkinson?

She isn't at home in 1851
Looks like the right family altho dad is now a grocer
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1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Main Street, Kendal, Westmorland, England

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First name(s) Last name Relationship to household head Marital condition Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
James Armistead Head Married Male 62 1789 Grocer Whittington, Lancashire
Ann Armistead Wife Married Female 54 1797 Grocer Wife Ravensdale, Westmorland
William Armistead Son Unmarried Male 20 1831 Assistant K Lonsdale, Westmorland
Margaret Armistead Daughter Unmarried Female 7 1844 Scholar K Lonsdale, Westmorland
M A Armistead Daughter Unmarried Female 3 1848 Scholar Manchester, Lancashire

Wonder if in fact the two younger girls are daughters in view of mums age


How have you got Elizabeth Atkinson to be the daughter of Jane Armistead



First name(s) ELIZABETH
Last name ATKINSON
Birth year 1851
Birth quarter 2
Registration month -
Mother's last name -
District EAST WARD
County Westmorland
Country England
Volume 25
Page 537

I wonder about this, much later, marriage

Marriages Mar 1863 (>99%)
ATKINSON John Lancaster 8e 691
TENNANT Jane Lancaster 8e 691

I shall look into that marriage thank you Vanessa

Mark you still haven't told us how you got to Jane being Eluzabeths mother?

Surely Elizabeth is their daughter


1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
159, Lancaster Road, Preston, Lancashire, England

Print household transcription Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship to household head Marital condition Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
James Tennant Head Married Male 20 1831 Joiner Kirby Lonsdale, Westmorland
Jane Tennant Wife Married Female 22 1829 - Old Town, Westmorland
Elizabeth Tennant Daughter - Female 0 1851 At Home Kirkby Lonsdale, Lancashire

I can't see a corresponding birth on freebmd for Elizabeth as Tennant

Is this an error when transcribing or her actual married name??

1851
Name: Elizabeth Atkinson
[Elizabeth Tennant]

Age:
20

Estimated birth year:
abt 1851

Relation:
Daughter

Father's Name:
James Tennant

Mother's name:
Jane Tennant

Gender:
Female

Where born:
Kirkby Lonsdale, Westmorland, England

Civil Parish:
Lancaster

Ecclesiastical parish:
St John

Town:
Lancaster

County/Island:
Lancashire

Country:
England

Registration district:
Lancaster

Sub-registration district:
Lancaster

ED, institution, or vessel:
18

Household schedule number:
93

Piece:
4232

Folio:
92

Page Number:
20

Household Members:

Name

Age

James Tennant 40
Jane Tennant 42
Elizabeth Atkinson 20 <<<<<<<<
James Tennant 17
Annie Tennant 11
John Tennant 9
Samuel Tennant 3

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Well Jane is still alive in 1871 and this shows Elizabeth now as stepdaughter

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1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
18, Cable Street, Lancaster, Lancashire, England

Print household transcription Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital condition Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
James Tennant Head - Male 40 1831 - Westmorland
Jane Tennant Wife - Female 42 1829 - Westmorland
Elizabeth Atkinson Step-Daughter - Female 20 1851 - Westmorland
James Tennant Son - Male 17 1854 - Lancashire
Annie Tennant Daughter - Female 11 1860 - Lancashire
John Tennant Son - Male 7 1864 - Lancashire
Samuel Tennant Son - Male 3 1868 - Lancashire

She is listed as married

It's looking like there is some merit to Jane & Mr Atkinson! I would definitely discard that 1863 marriage Mark.

New thread started by Mark:

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1359353

I would suggest continuing here rather than on the new thread, as all the research so far is here.

????

Births Sep 1850 (>99%)
Armistead Elizabeth Kendal 25 539


I know there were various Elizabeth Atkinsons born in Kendal district (which includes Kirkby Lonsdale) around that time, but if there's doubt about whether Jane was married or not, and to whom, then maybe Elizabeth was registered as Armistead?

Maybe ???

Deaths Dec 1875 (>99%)
ATKINSON Elizabeth 25 Lancaster 8e 490

Sorry I am so confused on this line,,

Re the 1871 census posted by Shirley above, showing Elizabeth as married -
I think that's a mistake on the enumerator's part.

Elizabeth was listed originally as Daughter, and I think the enumerator has assumed she was married because she had a different surname. "Step" has been added later.


It's a pity you've clicked "Mark as answered", Mark - unless you are satisfied that your query has been answered.
That 's what it's supposed to mean - and not just that you have posted a reply on the thread.
It's a bad feature of GR, and unfortunately, once clicked, it can't be unclicked.

If you feel we haven't answered everything you want to know about Elizabeth, you should edit the title of the thread, to add "Not answered" or words to that effect.