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shirley
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6 Jul 2014 13:57 |
Thanks for the info on Gorseinon.William may not have known exactly where he was born. In those days people tended to move around a lot more ie lodging with other members of family. :-)
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shirley
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6 Jul 2014 13:55 |
Have now come to the conclusion that the William who was still single in 1871 is a different William. There were so many of the same name born in the same town in the same year. I am looking into everything being posted and double checking anything I can find so please all continue to contribute where you can. :-)
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AnnCardiff
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6 Jul 2014 09:43 |
Gorseinon is in the right area - close to Morriston and Swansea
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6 Jul 2014 06:30 |
Not sure about the 1871 census Mike, if he married in Q1 1871 why would he be down as unmarried on the census taken 2/4/1871? Although I does look like the right family.
So where was Alice in 1871 - although there is a likely candidate still going by the name John:
Alice I John Age:18 Estimated birth year:abt 1853 Relation:Visitor Gender:Female Where born:Llangyfelach, Glamorganshire, Wales Civil Parish:Llangyfelach Town:Morriston County/Island:Glamorgan Country:Wales Registration district:Swansea Sub-registration district:Llangyfelach ED, institution, or vessel:4 Household schedule number:110 Piece:5446 Folio:16 Page Number:25 Household Members: NameAge
James Thomas 58 Mary Thomas 58 Ann John 85 <<Mother Alice I John 18 Enock Thomas 37 So probably related to the family, maybe Ann John was Mary Thomas's mother rather than James's.
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shirley
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5 Jul 2014 21:28 |
John's occupation was 'labourer'.
I have seen this info. previously while I was searching but was thrown because in the census' I have seen William is down as born in Gorseinon. Maybe they are close by. I shall have to look on the maps. I will now investigate this further info from Mike. :-)
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Mike *
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5 Jul 2014 19:14 |
1861
John Hughes 43 Hannah Hughes 51 Margaret Hughes 14 William Hughes 11 Stephen Hughes 8 Thomas Lewis 74 - lodger Henry Williams 26 - lodger
1851
John Hughes 34 - copperman Anna Hughes 41 Margaret Hughes 5 William Hughes 2 Abele Williams 21 - lodger Henry Williams 17 - lodger Benjamin Evans 16 - lodger Catherine Gravel 21 - servant Ann Roberts 2 Mo
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5 Jul 2014 19:10 |
1871
William Hughes Age:22 Estimated birth year:abt 1849
Relation:Son
Father's Name:John Hughes
Where born:Taibach, Glamorganshire, Wales
Civil Parish:Margam Ecclesiastical parish:Llandaff Town:Taibach County/Island:Glamorgan Country:Wales Registration district:Neath Sub-registration district:Margam
John Hughes 53 -copper smelter at works - Llanstephan, Carmarthenshire Hannah Hughes 62 William Hughes 22 - Yellow metal furnace man <<<<<<< Stephen Hughes 18 Ann Rees 20 Catherine Rees 56 Catherine Rees 16 Jane Rees 12 David Rees 11
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5 Jul 2014 19:06 |
and father John's Occupation ???
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5 Jul 2014 19:05 |
PM received
. WILLIAM 'S OCCUPATION WAS 'SPELTERMAN'.
**** PLEASE Shirley reply on here in box provided not to individuals
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5 Jul 2014 17:18 |
What was John's occupation on marriage cert ?
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LondonBelle
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5 Jul 2014 16:52 |
I've received the following PM from Shirley
Thanks for your reply. Sorry I do not know any of his siblings only his own children.
I have sent a PM to Shirley explaining how she can add to her original Thread.
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Cynthia
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5 Jul 2014 12:49 |
I'll remind Shirley how to return to her replies... :-)
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4 Jul 2014 17:01 |
Name: William Hughes Age (Original): 31 Gender: Male Birth Year: 1850 Birthplace: Wales Relationship to Head of Household: Head Marital Status: Married Occupation: Spelter Works Address: Graig Event Place: Clase, Glamorganshire, Wales Record Type: Household Affiliate Publication Number: RG11 Piece/Folio: 5353 / 117 Page Number: 86 Household Role Gender Age Birthplace William Hughes Head M 31 Wales Alice Hughes Wife F 28 Wales John Hughes Son M 9 Wales Thomas Hughes Son M 7 Wales William Hughes Son M 5 Wales Mary A Hughes Daughter F 1 Wales
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4 Jul 2014 15:57 |
and this
1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Private, Mixes Terrace, Swansea, Glamorganshire, Wales
Print household transcription Household Members First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital condition Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place Gad Hughes Head Married Male 41 1820 Bargeman Glamorgan Swansea Image Transcription Mary Hughes Wife Married Female 34 1827 - Glamorgan Swansea Image Transcription William Hughes Son - Male 16 1845 Scholar Glamorgan Swansea Image Transcription Joshua Hughes Son - Male 10 1851 Scholar Glamorgan Swansea Image Transcription Mary Hughes Daughter - Female 8 1853 Scholar Glamorgan Swansea Image Transcription Thomas Hughes Son - Male 6 1855 Scholar Glamorgan Swansea Image Transcription Jannet Hughes Daughter - Female 4 1857 Scholar Glamorgan Swansea Image Transcription Llewlyn Hughes Son - Male 1 1860 - Glamorgan Swansea Image Transcription Mary Rosser Servant Unmarried Female 16 1845 House Servant Glamorgan Swansea Image Transcription Print individual transcription View image Individual transcription First name(s) Gad
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4 Jul 2014 15:56 |
Point the other member to this
1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Fabians Street, Swansea, Glamorganshire, Wales
Print household transcription Household Members First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital condition Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place Gad Hughes Head - Male 50 1821 - Glamorgan Image Transcription Mary Hughes Wife - Female 45 1826 - Glamorgan Image Transcription William Hughes Son - Male 23 1848 - Glamorgan Image Transcription Mary Hughes Daughter - Female 19 1852 - Glamorgan Image Transcription Thomas Hughes Son - Male 9 1862 - Glamorgan Image Transcription James Hughes Son - Male 7 1864 - Glamorgan Image Transcription Lewellyn Jenkins Boarder - Male 36 1835 - Glamorgan Image Transcription
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4 Jul 2014 15:49 |
1891 Census 9 Records found Piece: RG12/4473 Place: Llangyfelach -Glamorgan Enumeration District: 5 Civil Parish: Llangyfelach Ecclesiastical Parish: Llangyfelach Folio: 40 Page: 74 Schedule: 362 Address: Dela-Beche Terrace
Surname First name(s) Rel Status Sex Age Occupation Where Born Remarks HUGHES William Head M M 43 Copperman(Em'ee) Glamorgan - Gorseinon Language: Welsh HUGHES Alice Wife M F 38 Glamorgan - Gorseinon Language: Welsh HUGHES John Son S M 19 Rising Tin Works(Em'ee) Glamorgan - Gorseinon Language: Welsh HUGHES Thomas Son S M 16 Wheeling Coldrolls(Em'ee) Glamorgan - Gorseinon Language: Welsh HUGHES William Son S M 14 Wheeling Coldrolls(Em'ee) Glamorgan - Gorseinon Language: Welsh HUGHES Mary Ann Dau S F 10 Scholar Glamorgan - Gorseinon Language: Welsh HUGHES Morgan Son S M 8 Scholar Glamorgan - Gorseinon Language: Welsh HUGHES Elizabeth Dau S F 2 Glamorgan - Gorseinon Language: Welsh EVANS Elizabeth Boardr W F 58 Glamorgan - Gorseinon Language: Welsh
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4 Jul 2014 15:47 |
The one mooted by the other member was still single in 1871
Your chap married before the end of March . The census was taken on 2nd Apl
Marriages Mar 1871 (>99%) Bevan David Swansea 11a 629 Scan available - click to view Francis Mary Swansea 11a 629 Scan available - click to view Hughes William Swansea 11a 629 Scan available - click to view John Alice Swansea 11a 629
As you have the marriage cert, ignore the other suggestion
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4 Jul 2014 15:45 |
1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Delea Beche Terrace, Cwm Bath, Llangyfelach, Swansea, Glamorganshire, Wales
Print household transcription Household Members First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital condition Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place William Hughes Head Married Male 43 1848 Copperman Glamorganshire Image Transcription Alice Hughes Wife Married Female 38 1853 - Glamorganshire Image Transcription John Hughes Son Single Male 19 1872 Rising Tin Works Glamorganshire Image Transcription Thomas Hughes Son Single Male 16 1875 Wheeling Coldrolls Glamorganshire Image Transcription William Hughes Son Single Male 14 1877 Wheeling Coldrolls Glamorganshire Image Transcription Mary Ann Hughes Daughter Single Female 10 1881 Scholar Glamorganshire Image Transcription Morgan Hughes Son Single Male 8 1883 Scholar Glamorganshire Image Transcription Elizabeth Hughes Daughter Single Female 2 1889 - Glamorganshire Image Transcription Elizabeth Evans Boarder Widow Female 58 1833 - Glamorganshire Image Transcription Print individual transcription View image Individual transcription First name(s) William Last name Hughes
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4 Jul 2014 15:43 |
just for reference purposes
1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Graig, Clase, Swansea, Glamorganshire, Wales
Print household transcription Household Members First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital condition Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place William Hughes Head Married Male 31 1850 Spelter Works Gorseinon, Glamorganshire, Wales Image Transcription Alice Hughes Wife Married Female 28 1853 - Morriston, Glamorganshire, Wales Image Transcription John Hughes Son Single Male 9 1872 Scholar Morriston, Glamorganshire, Wales Image Transcription Thomas Hughes Son Single Male 7 1874 Scholar Morriston, Glamorganshire, Wales Image Transcription William Hughes Son Single Male 5 1876 Scholar Morriston, Glamorganshire, Wales Image Transcription Mary A Hughes Daughter Single Female 1 1880 - Morriston, Glamorganshire, Wales Image Transcription
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4 Jul 2014 15:41 |
Any good?
1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Fabeans Bay, Saint Thomas Swansea, Swansea, Glamorganshire, Wales
Print household transcription Household Members First name(s) Last name Relationship to household head Marital condition Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place John Hughes Head Married Male 40 1811 Tailor St David, Pembrokeshire Image Transcription Annah Hughes Wife Married Female 38 1813 - Llandilo, Carmarthenshire Image Transcription Emma Hughes Daughter - Female 11 1840 - Swansea, Glamorganshire Image Transcription Sarah Hughes - - Female 7 1844 - Swansea, Glamorganshire Image Transcription John Hughes Son - Male 3 1848 - Swansea, Glamorganshire Image Transcription William Hughes - - Male 1 1850 - Swansea, Glamorganshire Image Transcription John Morsden Lodger Unmarried Male 19 1832 Tailor Romorthone, Rheyrder Image Transcription Print individual transcription View image Individual transcription First name(s) William Last name Hughes
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