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Thank you all for your help.

I will go through it and add it to my notes.

Thanks again

Jane

Baptism
County Lincolnshire
Place Lincoln
Church St. John in Newport
RegisterNumber 393
DateOfBirth 10 Dec 1855
BaptismDate 06 Jan 1856
Forename William
Sex M
FatherForename Edward
MotherForename Mary
FatherSurname CARRATT
MotherSurname CARRATT
Abode St. John's
FatherOccupation Labourer

(possible 1856 William, from below)


http://www.freereg.org.uk/cgi/Search.pl

Chris :)

This is from a tree on Ancestry which claims that this is the same William but I have found MANY errors on that tree just at a quick glance !

Residence
1911 2 Apr — Age: 56
LINCOLN, Lincolnshire, England
Age 52; Abode: William Carratt; Bricklayer Labourer. 4 Gadsby Court, Sincil Street (Single - possibly William and Ellen didn't marry, and Ellen died soon after 1881 ?)

Death
1927 25 Apr — Age: 72
LINCOLN St Nicholas, Lincolnshire, England
Age 72; William Carratt. Abode: Gadsby Court, Sincil Street, St Swithin

Occupation
Around 1880 onwards, William may have been in the North Lincolnshire Regiment, His son died in the New Barracks which also suggests that Ellen had already died.

Dea x

Mary is still with her paternal grandmother in 1901:

1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census

30, Lark Lane, Lincoln St Nicholas, Lincoln, Lincolnshire, England

Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital condition Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place

Tom Dixon Head Married Male 55 1846 Builders Labourer South Kelsey, Lincolnshire
Mary Dixon Wife Married Female 67 1834 - Navenby, Lincolnshire
Mary Carrot Grand Daughter Single Female 15 1886 - Yorkshire

Just following William Carrott born 1856 to see where we end up:

1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census

4, Turks Head YD, Lincoln St Nicholas, Lincoln, Lincolnshire, England

Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital condition Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place

William Carratt Head Married Male 25 1856 Gen Labourer Lincoln, Lincolnshire
Ellen Carratt Wife Married Female 31 1850 Gen Labourer Wife Barnolby Le Beck, Lincolnshire
William Carratt Son Single Male 0 1881 - Lincoln, Lincolnshire

Thank you MC - It looked 'possible' at the time but the one you have since suggested does look to be the correct one.

Dea x

For the purposes of elimination, this is the marriage of the Mary E Carrott that Dea found on 1901 census:

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
Marriages Mar 1905
CARROTT Mary Ellen Sheffield 9c 503
Rayner Levi Sheffield 9c 503

I've found them together on the 1911 and her birthplace of Seaham checks out.

This looks to be the 1871 for Mary (who must have remarried a Dixon) and Walter from the 1891 I posted above:

1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census
St Martin Street, St Michael, Lincoln, Lincolnshire, England

Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital condition Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Edward Carrott Head - Male 45 1826 - Lincolnshire
Mary Carrott Wife - Female 39 1832 - Lincolnshire, b Navenby
George Carrott Son - Male 21 1850 - Lincolnshire
William Carrott Son - Male 15 1856 - Lincolnshire
Edward Carrott Son - Male 10 1861 - Lincolnshire
Charles Carrott Son - Male 3 1868 - Lincolnshire
Walter Carrott Son - Male 0 1871 - Lincolnshire

The children all born Lincoln, Lincolnshire. Men of working age are labourers.

Note the son William b 1856 - seems to be the contender for father of Mary Elizabeth born 1886.

Thanks again for all your help

I have to go to work now but I will check in when I get back tonight.

All the best

Jane

I think this is the correct girl in 1891. I guess the birthplace is actually Wombwell which fits the birth registration:

1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
West Gate, Lincoln, Lincolnshire, England
Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital condition Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Thomas Dixon Head Married Male 46 1845 General Labourer Lincolnshire, South Helsey
Mary E Dixon Wife Married Female 58 1833 - Lincolnshire, Navenby?
Walter Carratt Son Single Male 23 1868 General Labourer -
Mary E Carratt Granddaughter - Female 6 1885 Scholar Yorkshire, Womble
Mary J Asher Visitor Single Female 20 1871 Dressmaker Lincolnshire

Thanks again MarieCeleste

I will add all this information you and Dea have given me to my notes.


All the best

Jane

I think this may be the birth registration:

England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
Name: Mary Elizabeth Carott
Registration Year: 1886
Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar
Registration district: Barnsley
Inferred County: Yorkshire West Riding
Volume: 9c
Page: 23*

EDIT: I think the correct page number is 239

Thank you so much MarieCeleste. that is a great help.

All the best

Jane

That looks promising. Thank you very much for all your help
I think I will have to send for marriage cert and see what information that gives. It should at least give her fathers name.

Jane

Just in case her father's name comes in useful:

England, Select Marriages, 1538–1973
Name: Mary Elizabeth Carrott
Gender: Female
Age: 18
Birth Date: 1886
Marriage Date: 1904
Marriage Place: North Hyckham, Lincoln, England
Father: William Carrott
Spouse: William Proctor
FHL Film Number: 1542194
Reference ID: 2:3JLVB7S

There is this one on 1901 - they seem to have a connection to Lindolnshire via the 'lodger' ??

1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
12, Kilton Street, Brightside Bierlow, Sheffield, Yorkshire, England
Print household transcription
Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital condition Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Eliza Carrott Head Married Female 41 1860 - Cantley, Yorkshire
Mary E Carrott Daughter Single Female 14 1887 Shirtmaker Seaham, Durham
Fredrick Carrott Son Single Male 12 1889 - Seaham, Durham
Jesse Davison Boarder Married Male 50 1851 Labourer General Shokney, Lincolnshire
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Individual transcription
First name(s) Mary E
Last name Carrott
Relationship Daughter
Marital condition Single
Gender Female
Age 14
Birth year 1887
Occupation Shirtmaker
Birth town Seaham
Birth county Durham
House number 12
House name -
Street Kilton Street
Parish Brightside Bierlow
Town -
County Yorkshire, Yorkshire (West Riding)
Country England
Municipal ward Brightside
Parliamentary borough Brightside
Registration district Sheffield
Enumeration district 2
Series RG13
Piece number 4373
Folio number 39
Page 30
Record set 1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Category Census, land & surveys
Record collection Census
Collections from Great Britain

Dea x

Thanks Dea

I wonder what happend to her children because they do not appear to have moved in with John Gray. Although havein gsaid that we wont know for sure until the next census comes out.

Thanks for your help Dea

Jane

Marriages Jun 1904 (>99%)
CARROTT Mary Elizabeth Lincoln 7a 1225
Proctor William Lincoln 7a 1225

Dea x

1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
7 Alexandra Ashby Doncaster, Ashby, Lincolnshire, England
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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship to household head Marital condition Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
William Proctor Head Married Male 29 1882 Furnace Labourer Linc Lincoln
Mary Elizabeth Proctor Wife Married Female 25 1886 - -
Joseph William Proctor Son - Male 5 1906 - Lincs Ashby
Rosetta Proctor Daughter - Female 2 1909 - Lincs Ashby
Albert Ernest Proctor Son - Male 0 1911 - Lincs Ashby
Joseph Proctor Father Married Male 71 1840 Farm Labourer Lincs Reepham
Mary Proctor Mother Married Female 65 1846 - Lincs Langton
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Individual transcription
First name(s) Mary Elizabeth
Last name Proctor
Relationship to household head Wife
Marital condition Married
Gender Female
Age 25
Birth year 1886
Occupation -
Birth place -
Marriage year 1905
Years married 6
Address 7 Alexandra Ashby Doncaster
Parish Ashby
County Lincolnshire
Country England
Registration district Glanford Brigg
Registration district number 424
Subdistrict Winterton
Subdistrict number 2
Enumeration district 20
Piece number 20087
Schedule number 306
Census reference RG14
Census reference RG14PN20087 RG78PN1201 RD424 SD2 ED20 SN306
Record set 1911 Census for England & Wales
Category Census, land & surveys
Record collection Census
Collections from Great Britain

Dea x

Please can someone look up Mary Elizabeth Proctor b 1885 and Willliam Proctor on the 1911 census. They were living in Lincolnshire.

I do not know anything about her except she married Will Proctor in 1904 and then married John Gray in 1916 in Lincolnshire. John Gray is my family.

Her maiden name could have been Carrott but I cant find a birth for anyone of that name.

Thanks for your help.

Jane