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I searched the parish birth records, having found what I was looking for I requested a view of original transcription (paying by credit). However the record was not shown on the 1st viewing page so I clicked for next page and was again charged credits. The record was not on this page either but to go further would prove too expensive, are the charges correct or was I doing something wrong?

What record are you trying to view Thora and on what site?

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Who and what are you looking for?

have you tried familysearch which is free?

Hello Thora and welcome to the Community boards.


I will let Thora know that she has replies to her query. :-)

Thank you all, I was looking for any newspaper articles on surname Wyers - whiling away the time.

Hello Thora, I'm pleased you have found your way back again.

I sent a message to Thora asking for a few more details - she is looking for information on Richard Wyers who married Frances Carew Betts in 1825 in Swansea.

So far, I have found this, but others may find more:


Marriage:

First Name RICHARD
Last Name WYERS
Country Wales
Glamorgan Marriage Index pre-1837
Month Mar
Bride First FRANCES CAREW
Year 1825
Bride Last Name BETTS
SWANSEA ST MARY
Bride Parish ST MARY SSEA
Groom Parish TAIDEBIGG WOR (Should read Tardebigge, Worcestershire)
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Richard's death :

First name(s) RICHARD
Last name WYERS
Death year 1852
District BROMSGROVE
County Worcestershire
Volume 6C
Page 206

Frances' death:

First name(s Frances Carew
Last name Wyers
Age 22
Birth year 1807
Death year 1829
Death date 19 Jun 1829
Burial date 24 Jun 1829
Burial place : Redditch
Denomination : Independent
County Worcestershire


1851 Census

Richard Wyers Head Widower Male 53 1798 Needle Manufacturer Bromsgrove, Worcestershire

Mary A C Wyers Daughter Unmarried Female 24 1827 - Redditch, Worcestershire

Elizabeth Albutt Servant Unmarried Female 32 1819 House Servant Feckenham, Worcestershire

Anne Albutt Servant - Female 13 1838 House Servant Feckenham, Worcestershire

Henry Croft - - Male 19 1832 Needle Maker Finisher Tardebigg, Worcestershire


Frances may have died in childbirth as their son Richard Carew Wyers was born in 1829.

Again thank you Cynthia, I must apologise for wasting your time as I already have this information. I have caused confusion it I info prior to 1837 for Richard as I cannot find his parents names or his parish record birth, nor any parish records for Frances or her mother - as I particularly want to also trace the Carew line (presumably France's mother's name.

These will be the baptisms of Frances and her sisters. Their father's name was John, but no name is listed for their mother. (From FamilySearch)

Frances Cares Betts
Wales, Glamorganshire, Parish Registers, 1538-1912
birth: 2 May 1807
baptism: 11 May 1807 Swansea, St Mary, Glamorganshire, Wales


Jane Carew Betts
Wales, Glamorganshire, Parish Registers, 1538-1912
birth: 12 February 1810
baptism: 19 February 1810 Swansea, St Mary, Glamorganshire, Wales


Mary Carew Betts
Wales, Glamorganshire, Parish Registers, 1538-1912
birth: 15 October 1811
baptism: 28 January 1811 Swansea, St Mary, Glamorganshire, Wales

Just a guess, but based on timescale, names and place:


John Betts
Wales, Glamorgan Parish Registers, 1558-1900

Name: John Betts
Event Type: Marriage
Event Date: 1804
Event Place: Llanrhidian, Glamorgan, Wales
Spouse's Name: Frances Phillips

If the above marriage is correct, here's rather more of a wild guess at Frances Phillips's baptism:


Fanny Philips
Wales, Glamorgan Parish Registers, 1558-1900
Name: Fanny Philips
Event Type: Baptism
Event Date: 1779
Event Place: Llanrhidian, Glamorgan, Wales
Father's Name: John
Mother's Name: Prudence

Well, not so wild after all, as here's the baptism of her brother, including the name Carew:

Thomas Carew Philips

Wales, Glamorgan Parish Registers, 1558-1900

baptism: 1784 Llanrhidian, Glamorgan, Wales

father: John
mother: Prudence

Possibly Prudence's death, assuming Thomas Carew Philips wasn't christened until he was two:


Prudence Philip
Wales, Glamorgan Parish Registers, 1558-1900
Name: Prudence Philip
Event Type: Burial
Event Date: 1782
Event Place: Llanrhidian, Glamorgan, Wales

I can't believe the results you have all managed to come up with! I have spent many hours on this particular "brick". I thought I had tried all research avenues so what did I miss (doh) ? Thanks to you all I now have more links but realise that to go further back will be nigh impossible. Will now have to concentrate on the "WYERS" line.
Sincere gratitude to the help you have given. Thora

Thomas Carew Philips's marriage - haven't yet investigated which bride was his:

Marriages Jun 1839 (>99%)
ELLERY Hannah Swansea 26 789
HAZEL Anne Swansea 26 789
MORRIS Jane Maria Swansea 26 789
Philipps Thomas Carew Swansea 26 789
TRUSCOTT Louisa Swansea 26 789

Another entry on FamilySearch says Jane Maria Morris was his bride.


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EDIT: But maybe it's not your Thomas, Thelma. Here's another one:

Thomas Carew Philipps
Wales, Glamorganshire, Parish Registers, 1538-1912

Name: Thomas Carew Philipps
Event Type: Burial
Event Date: 12 Mar 1827
Event Place: Loughor, Glamorganshire, Wales
Age: 42
Birth Year (Estimated): 1785

Thank you Argyle Gran,
Logically (gleaned from your latest) I think The marriage of Thomas in June 1939 could be the son of Thomas db 1784 dd 1827
I will see what my other subscribed site comes up with now that I have received such terrific response and clues from yourself and Cynthia.

Thora

County Glamorganshire
Place Llangyfelach
Church Parish Church
RegisterNumber
MarriageDate 14 Jul 1814
GroomForename Thomas Carew
GroomSurname PHILLIPS
BrideForename Mary
BrideSurname DOBLE

(not sure if above relates anywhere, from below link)


http://www.freereg.org.uk/cgi/Search.pl

Chris :)

Thank you Chris, I am getting a bit "bogged down" with Phillips,Carew,Betts so will give them a rest for now. Incidentally I tried cross checking all the above info on my other site and could not find any parish records for them despite using locations of : Glamorgan. Glamorganshire. Monmouthshire. Swanse. Llanrhidian. Loughor. Wales.
Same goes for the Wyers side after searching all possibilities.
Thorahttp://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1342116#